What not to eat

camerashy
By camerashy Latest Reply 2015-04-08 14:32:24 -0500
Started 2015-04-01 21:38:23 -0500

Hi, y'all. I went to see my endo a week ago (remember the super lows?) and he cut my levemir by 5 units. It seems to have helped. Then he asked about my Triglycerides and almost fell off the stool when I said 800. He asked what I'd been eating that was not ordinary, and I told him I'd been eating a lot of cheese lately, and he said "No cheese!" A year ago he told me no potato salad, because that's apparently what was keeping my A1c 8.8 (it's 7.2 now)
So have any of you been told by your doctors not to eat a specific food? What was it? Did he/she explain why?


31 replies

Gabby
GabbyPA 2015-04-02 09:07:27 -0500 Report

I don't understand why no cheese. Triclycerides tend to increase with the consumption of processed foods and carbohydrates. I could maybe see no low fat cheese, but not so broad. Perhaps ask him why.

camerashy
camerashy 2015-04-02 12:43:52 -0500 Report

Triglycerides are fats in the blood, and cheese is full of fat. So's milk, but he didn't say no milk. Go figure.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2015-04-02 14:48:17 -0500 Report

It is fat in the blood, but science is proving that it comes from too much sugar and carbs that our bodies make the fat. So I think he is ill informed...or maybe it's me. But I would look into that some more.

Jibber Jabber
Jibber Jabber 2015-04-02 17:14:34 -0500 Report

I eat between 2 and 4 ounces of cheese every day..and my cholesterol is picture perfect…and it wasn't always that way…cheese contains..calcium, vitamins..protein and most of the cheeses I eat have less than a gram of carbs per ounce…the perfect "diabetic food"..as far as I am concerned…me thinks she needs to cut back on other indulgences…the cheese is taking the blame for something else going on here..

camerashy
camerashy 2015-04-02 18:30:39 -0500 Report

I was eating between 8 and 12 ounces of cheese every day. Since I've stopped eating so much of it (down to 1 ounce/day) my triglycerides have dropped by 372 points.

Jibber Jabber
Jibber Jabber 2015-04-03 07:43:52 -0500 Report

wow..chicky..that is a lot of cheese..almost like you took it upon yourself to keep the dairy industry afloat…now I know why he told you to cut back…if you ate so much you also must of been NOT eating some other foods necessary for nutrition…yeah toss MOST of that cheese and throw in some good dark leafy veggies…some nuts once in a while…and a couple eggs…if I ate 12 oz of cheese in one day I would be too full to eat anything else.

haoleboy
haoleboy 2015-04-02 21:22:27 -0500 Report

Wow! 8-12 ounces is an extreme amount and that much saturated fat is not a good idea … plus that would be a whole lot of calories and protein for a single daily food source.

Steve

Type1Lou
Type1Lou 2015-04-02 08:00:52 -0500 Report

After reading Dr Richard Bernstein's book "Diabetes Solution" in the early 2000's, I began to cut out much of the carbs in my diet. I still eat lots of cheese and dairy. My A1c is 6.9 (I'm working to get it back into the mid 6's) and my triglycerides are in the 50's. I do think much of lipid levels are controlled by genetics and I seem to have good ones in that respect. I limit my carbs to 120 grams per day. One of my "solutions" to lower my carbs is to substitute the pasta on my plate with french style green beans and put spaghetti sauce over the beans. My husband has the regular pasta and we both enjoy our "spaghetti". For a lower carb lasagna, replace the pasta with par-boiled cabbage or spinach or eggplant. I make potatoes for my husband but none go on my plate. I pretty much adopted my lower carb approach on my own. In fact, one doctor told me he thought my carb intake was too low and I had a nutritionist claim that I would lose brain cells because of it. I think we all owe it to ourselves to determine what works best for us, and if the results are good, that is validation enough.

camerashy
camerashy 2015-04-02 12:46:23 -0500 Report

GOOD WORK! Good ideas, too. I love green beans, and I already make vegetarian lasagna. (Don won't eat it - you can see green things in it. lol)

RebDee
RebDee 2015-04-02 07:03:20 -0500 Report

Since I started on the NO WHITE DIET, all of my labs including cholesterol, triglycerides, A1c, and all other labs that they took 9 vials of blood for last Friday are all NORMAL LIMITS. So I will continue with the No White Diet (except next week during Passover when I will add matzo to my meals).

jayabee52
jayabee52 2015-04-07 21:05:44 -0500 Report

Howdy Dee
i remembered seeing an article from Everyday Health the other day and I looked it up. This is not diabetes completely friendly but other than the mention of potatoes the other white foods would be good for us:
"Aside from white potatoes, here are a few other delicious ways to include some white tonight:
•Mushrooms are associated with umami, the fifth basic taste after sweet, salty, bitter, and sour. They make savory dishes smile and they’re low in calories, fat-free, cholesterol-free, and gluten-free, with barely any sodium. Plus, they’re are loaded with selenium, potassium, riboflavin, niacin, and vitamin D.
•Cauliflower is an important member of the cruciferous family, along with broccoli, cabbage, and Brussels sprouts. Cauliflower contains sulfur compounds that are associated with fighting cancer, strengthening bone tissue, and maintaining healthy blood vessels.
•Garlic brings flavor to any dish along with the benefit of keeping colds and flu at bay since its antioxidant properties can help boost your immune system. To get the most out of garlic’s active chemical, allicin, cut a fresh clove up and expose it to the air for a little while before you cook with it.
•Onions may make you shed tears of joy through the anti-inflammatory chemical within called quercetin. Quercetin’s benefits include easing discomfort from arthritis, as well as reducing risks associated with cancer, heart disease, diabetes, and a stronger immune system." ~ http://www.everydayhealth.com/columns/bonnie-...

RebDee
RebDee 2015-04-07 22:39:42 -0500 Report

James, I am a garlic, onion, and mushroom lover (I also put all those things plus pineapple on my gluten free pizza, and allow myself 2 of 8 pieces)
I also love brussel sprouts, cauliflower, broccoli, cabbage (especially stuffed with ground beef for chicken with raisins).. So, I guess I am doing something right for a change.
However, during this week of Passover, since last Friday, I have gained 5 lbs. Boohoo. My pulse (which I take each morning on my cell phone as it is an app) is down to 41, which I think is too low.

RebDee
RebDee 2015-04-08 14:30:58 -0500 Report

It does not show on the phone. However, this morning it was 54 sitting and 58 standing at 12:15 PM.
So what is a good BP?

valentine lady
valentine lady 2015-04-02 04:21:10 -0500 Report

Hi camerashy,
At. 5.1 ( A1C ) iIm in diabetic. heaven. I'm no longer on medication and control my diabetes with food. No I am not bragging, I owe this to my Dr. that died. He helped me obtain
it and how maintain it. I owe him allot.

camerashy
camerashy 2015-04-02 07:58:24 -0500 Report

Congratulations on the 5.1! What foods did you eliminate? Besides sugar, I mean. That's a given.

valentine lady
valentine lady 2015-04-02 09:37:30 -0500 Report

Hi camerashy,,
I did away with all white stuff. Breads of all kinds, potatoes, rice,
pasta etc. White flour in particular. I drink lots of water and stick to an Atkins Diet. I've lost 101 lbs. as of this week. I still have a long way to go, 60 lbs. But I'll do it. Thanks for asking…

valentine lady
valentine lady 2015-04-07 20:16:16 -0500 Report

Hi Lisa,
Yes I was on insulin when I first started my diet. However, the weight was slow to come off. 1 to 2 lbs. a week at best. After I got off medication ( insulin ) the weight came off faster not much but enough to notice the difference. It has slowed down again the Dr. says it's
because I've lost so much my body needs to catch up with itself. Sure hopes this happens fast…I want it over and start maintenance portion of my diet.

sweetslover
sweetslover 2015-04-01 23:25:37 -0500 Report

When diagnosed as Type 2, my doctor told me to stay away from rice, potatoes, white bread, pasta, and anything that has sugar listed in the first 3 ingredients. He also told me to stay away from diet drinks. I was told to watch my carbs and calories, which means being careful with fruits. So far, it's working well. Last A1C was 5.3. I am able to include some of these forbidden foods in my meals if I am careful not to pig out, and also have a low carb count for most of the day before eating them. If I get hungry between meals I will have some sunflower seeds, celery, or some low carb greek yogurt, but normally, snacking is out.

RebDee
RebDee 2015-04-02 07:25:52 -0500 Report

Hi Sweetslover: All of the carbs that your doctor told you to stay away from equals the NO WHITE DIET. Also since before my bariatric surgery, I have not had any soda as the bubbles are not good for my tummy, I am strictly a water drinker (how boring is that!).
I was told to have three meals and three snacks. Like you I have celery with peanut butter, or greek yogurt with cashew nuts, or a protein drink or a protein bar for my snacks. My A1c was 7.4 last Friday and my doctor is happy with that. My BMI has gone from 36 last August to 26 as of last Friday. Now I want it to go to 24 by August.

sweetslover
sweetslover 2015-04-02 09:43:47 -0500 Report

Great progress. I know what you mean about drinking water being boring—that's all I drink, too.

camerashy
camerashy 2015-04-08 10:18:55 -0500 Report

I like lemon tea. I sometimes drink it just "plain", but most of the time I squeeze a wedge of lemon in it. MMMMMyummmy.

camerashy
camerashy 2015-04-01 23:59:29 -0500 Report

If I had to leave off pasta, I wouldn't have anything to eat, unless I become a short-order cook. Don won't eat much of anything else. Why diet drinks as a no-no? The only fruits I eat any amount of are oranges and pears. Congratulations on the 5.3!

sweetslover
sweetslover 2015-04-02 03:19:27 -0500 Report

I'm not exactly sure why no diet drinks, but he said something about the artificial sweeteners and the liver that wasn't good. At that point in our conversation, I was somewhat "numb" at my diagnosis and was also in information over-load. I tend to shut down when that happens.

RebDee
RebDee 2015-04-02 07:28:30 -0500 Report

Just think of it this way, Coca cola can clean a car engine. Therefore, it is too toxic for your delicate stomach. And in my case, I am not allowed to have the carbonation as the bubbles are not good for my little stomach since bariatric surgery.