got to get diagnosed first

haoleboy
By haoleboy Latest Reply 2015-03-26 08:51:00 -0500
Started 2015-03-23 22:05:40 -0500

States That Expand Medicaid Detect More Cases Of Diabetes: http://n.pr/1FSnA6U
IMO a step in the right direction

Steve


13 replies

Jibber Jabber
Jibber Jabber 2015-03-23 23:11:31 -0500 Report

Always good to get a diagnosis…but MOST communities have free or sliding scale health clinics that are very affordable..When I was in NYC I went to Jacobi Hospital in the Bronx and Luthern Medical center in Brooklyn and paid 20 bucks a visit..Now I go to LSU and pay even less and get my meds on the cheap..Although I am happy that more people are getting medical care..It makes me wonder why these same people were not going before…one physical a year for 20 bucks…it is all about personal responsibility..either you take it or you don't..I always made sure I had myhealth screenings..even when I was working 70 hour work weeks and had four kids to support IN NYC on my own..rent alone killed me..but I made my health a priority..

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2015-03-24 11:20:11 -0500 Report

Jibber I worked for a non profit. At our annual gala it honored African Americans in the Medical Field. The President insisted that she wanted Diabetes screening at the event and it had to be free. One of my coworkers wanted to be screened but didn't want to go alone so I went and got tested. The results were emailed to us. Three of my coworkers including me were diagnosed.

We have a major hospital that has "Bring a Loved one to the Doctor" they have screenings for everything all free. We have community events and festivals that offer free screenings.

We also have health centers that offer sliding fee scales. The problem is that people will not take advantage of services until it becomes a last resort or they end up in a hospital.

You cannot force people to take care of their health. Even with free services made available to them. I as Jolene said you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

Jibber Jabber
Jibber Jabber 2015-03-24 14:10:23 -0500 Report

I agree..when I worked in social services..I belonged to many health related associations..that would REGULARY send me emails regarding free health care screenings where vans actually would go around and test people..They also informed me of all the free and low cost clinics as well as medical prescription services that would help people get medications free or very low cost…Now when I was working with the MICA community as a Case Manager we micro managned their lives and MADE damn sure our clients went to their medical and dental visits..even if we had to escort them..But when I was working with the DV (domestic violence community)..we didn't do that..BUT we did make all of the healthcare information available to them..I gave two workshops per week detailing everything that was available…Only a few would even show for the workshops..and almost none of them took advantage of the services..sad to say at the least as most people in DV shelters are poor…if they weren't poor they would just leave their abusers and rent a place of their own..instead of going into shelter and waiting for a housing subsidy to help them pay their rent…

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2015-03-24 15:15:29 -0500 Report

People who need the help will not get the help or even use the information given to them. I deal with this at every meeting. I am to the point now I ask what have you done with the last information I gave you. When they respond nothing, I ask so what do you want me to do now. They look at me dumbfounded.

With Domestic Violence victims some do not have enough self esteem left to try to save themselves from the abuser. That is understandable. However, at some point everyone who needs help has to realize that no one can help you or save you unless you make some kind of effort to help or save yourself.

The resources are there for people who need it. Unfortunately people who don't need these resources get it fraudulently and always seem to get away with it.

Jibber Jabber
Jibber Jabber 2015-03-25 08:50:12 -0500 Report

I am a survivor of domestic violence…I was actually in a shelter for 2 mos with my kids while I saved money for first mos rent and security..Thank God I had a decent job at the time…and I do recognize that these women (and sometimes men)have issues that go very deep…but come on…I took advantage of everything NYC had to offer victims…BUT that took a lot of TIME and EFFORT..I was able to save 4K in 2 mos living on the cheap..BecauseI wante out fo that place…I hit every food pantry..and did DAYS of paperwork to get a check from the city designed for DV victims coming out of shelter to buy furniture..I took the time to hit craigslist everyday..In NYC craigslist is wonderful for free stuff…got MY entire living room set and two nice televisions as well as a lap top, poys pans, dishes, d├ęcor.. (perfect condition) from some dude being relocate..BUT it takes motivation..

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2015-03-25 13:05:32 -0500 Report

I am glad you got out. I agree it does take motivation. I worked with a woman who was a victim of DV. She got away from him and he found her. She got away again and he found her yet again. The last time she got away he kicked in her front door. She was home with their son. He grabbed her and she screamed for her son to run. He was 5yrs old. Thankfully, he ran next door and got a neighbor who hearing the screams called 911. When the police arrived he had her on the floor stabbing her. He stabbed her 75 times. Jibber she showed me the scars and it was awful.

Where we worked there was a shelter for DV victims on the property. I met a woman who served 5 years for shooting her husband and killing him. We have a mandatory 5 yr jail term for using a gun inside city limits. She got a job at the shelter and went back to school to learn to be a counselor.

It doesn't matter if you are a victim of DV, low income or no income. Help is out there and as long as you are motivated to change you can get the help you need.

I always tell people don't be mean to those in need because you never know when you will be in their position and that person might be able to help you in your time of need.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2015-03-24 11:19:54 -0500 Report

Jibber I worked for a non profit. At our annual gala it honored African Americans in the Medical Field. The President insisted that she wanted Diabetes screening at the event and it had to be free. One of my coworkers wanted to be screened but didn't want to go alone so I went and got tested. The results were emailed to us. Three of my coworkers including me were diagnosed.

We have a major hospital that has "Bring a Loved one to the Doctor" they have screenings for everything all free. We have community events and festivals that offer free screenings.

We also have health centers that offer sliding fee scales. The problem is that people will not take advantage of services until it becomes a last resort or they end up in a hospital.

You cannot force people to take care of their health. Even with free services made available to them. I as Jolene said you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2015-03-24 11:19:46 -0500 Report

Jibber I worked for a non profit. At our annual gala it honored African Americans in the Medical Field. The President insisted that she wanted Diabetes screening at the event and it had to be free. One of my coworkers wanted to be screened but didn't want to go alone so I went and got tested. The results were emailed to us. Three of my coworkers including me were diagnosed.

We have a major hospital that has "Bring a Loved one to the Doctor" they have screenings for everything all free. We have community events and festivals that offer free screenings.

We also have health centers that offer sliding fee scales. The problem is that people will not take advantage of services until it becomes a last resort or they end up in a hospital.

You cannot force people to take care of their health. Even with free services made available to them. I as Jolene said you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

JoleneAL
JoleneAL 2015-03-24 05:16:46 -0500 Report

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

All the free health insurance in the world doesn't make people use it.

Jibber Jabber
Jibber Jabber 2015-03-24 06:51:42 -0500 Report

I haven't had insurance since I divorced my children's father 10 years ago…either I was an independent contractor or I just couldn't pay premiums for myself…(my kids were always covered by their father)..but damned if I didn't make it to the doctor for my phyiscals..mammograms,,pap smears, dental cleanings…I missed ONE year in about 10 when I first moved down here because I didn't want to do the "legwork" to find a place to go..But damn when I figured out my body was acting differently I FOUND a clinic to go to…plenty of services already exist…that the government could of expanded on if they weren't dead set on making those that HAVE suffer to give to those who do not,,and the sad part is the people that the government considerers well off are in many cases barely surviving..You cant compare a single mom in NYC (which was what I was)..making 50-60K a year with someone living where I am now…dear God It was MORE than double the rent..a three bedroom in a non gang infested neighborhood in BRooklyn..statrt at about 2,200 a month…and those are the cheapies…I was NOT well off..

JoleneAL
JoleneAL 2015-03-24 08:48:53 -0500 Report

Exactly. People want to have to go and a lot don't "want" to. I know people who have never been to a doctor as an adult. They feel fine, they don't get sick (other than the normal cold) and just don't bother.

You can't force people to do something they just don't see a need for or feel they have to. Fine them/Tax Them, whatever - you can't stop the human will to be free. Until recently, I never thought the government would hunt people down and force them into a medical procedure, but sadly, it has started to happen.

Soon, we'll all be rounded up like cattle, shoved into a shoot and given our "medication." God, I pray I've gone home to the pearly gates before that.

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