Are you snacking... at night?

By Kakie33 Latest Reply 2015-03-19 12:45:01 -0500
Started 2015-03-18 23:07:05 -0500

Hi everyone,
I was diagnosed less than a year ago… so it has been an incredible journey in learning!
I have been checking my glucose level every morning , as lots of you do, and it was not the greatest (around 6.8 to 7.2). However I did an interesting experiment last night…

I had a hard time falling asleep and I saw 2:00am, 3:00am… by then, I was hungry so I had a low carb. snack and to my surprise my glucose level was pretty good when I got up at 8:00am = 5.8 :-D

Can anyone explain that?

May be I should get up every night at 3:00am and have a snack! ;)

10 replies

Kakie33 2015-03-19 11:11:26 -0500 Report

Hi Gabby, hi Haoleboy

Thanks for your answers… it has been very helpful
I'm learning everyday and because I'm stubborn I will not give into the pressure by some people to go on meds.
I am like the little train… I think I can, I think I can…

GabbyPA 2015-03-19 00:18:43 -0500 Report

I struggle with morning highs and I am finding that a snack of fat, protein and carbohydrate before I go to bed is helping me finally. So that may be what you stumbled on, the right combination that works for you. I have tried for years to figure out what will keep my morning numbers lower. I think I am finally getting closer.

There are tons of discussions here on Dawn Phenomenon. (just type it in the search bar) It's a common issue for many of us, mostly because we are built to do it. However, as a diabetic, we cannot compensate for the liver's efficiency and we suffer for it.

Karenna11 2015-03-19 12:45:01 -0500 Report

Thanks Gabby - I have lived in denial for so long and I am starting to get diabetic nerve pain. I have been eating very well the last 2 days; however, I have at least one slip up per day. I have always had a weight problem my entire life. I have gained back the 90 lbs that I lost (about 10 years ago and kept it off for 5 years.) My doc has referred me to take a Dibetic Education class. Also, I will monitor this website - it has valuable info to help!

haoleboy 2015-03-18 23:48:54 -0500 Report

Sounds like rebound hyperglycemia. I'm guessing you were going a bit hypoglycemic at 3 am (your hunger being the clue); eating may have prevented your kliver from releasing glycogen to respond to that low.
Next time test you blood at 3 am and if you are low it is what is called the "Somogyi Effect" (read more about that here: Similar (sort of) to "Dawn Phenomenon" (


GabbyPA 2015-03-18 23:50:05 -0500 Report

Do you mean liver?

haoleboy 2015-03-18 23:52:49 -0500 Report

D'oh! Of course I did, thanks Gabby … fixed it.

Kakie33 2015-03-19 00:08:01 -0500 Report

Thanks for your answer… actually I did test at 3am and it wasn't that low (6.1)
Thanks for the links… I'll read that soon.
That would explain somewhat what I read not long ago… that a light snack before bed helps.
I have been doing just that but between my late snack and my breakfast there is 8hrs!
I guess there isn't much I can do to avoid this "Somogyi Effect"

haoleboy 2015-03-19 00:19:03 -0500 Report

You might be experiencing Dawn Phenomenon … maybe. I never eat after 9 pm and don't eat the next day until 1 or 2 pm and never go high in the morning so … that's all I got.
But I'm curious … are you on any meds and what was your last A1c… if you don't mind me asking.


Kakie33 2015-03-19 00:22:51 -0500 Report

I am not taking meds - just monitoring food. Last A1c on Jan06 was 6.6 (not too bad, I think).
I seem to do ok with small amount of food every 4 hrs… but of course, night is longer than 4hrs.

haoleboy 2015-03-19 10:25:14 -0500 Report

No meds … that's excellent!
We all have to find what works for us. It took me several years to develop this way of managing my diabetes. My A1c has been under 6 for som time now and my doctor wants me to stop metformin … which I will if (when) my A1c come this May is 5.6 or lower.


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