Intermittent fasting and women

Jibber Jabber
By Jibber Jabber Latest Reply 2015-03-30 10:38:19 -0500
Started 2015-03-14 21:45:27 -0500

I have been playing with the idea of intermittent fasting since I was diagnosed, as it seems to be an effective way of treating insulin resistance…However I have read some contradictory information in regards to its effectiveness in women (because of hormonal differences)…have any women here tried it?? and if so how did it work for you??…I have just about decided I am going to start fasting two days a week after my Science project day this Monday..(When I become a lab rat for my grandson)…but still have some concerns…


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vcandland
vcandland 2015-03-27 18:14:29 -0500 Report

Here is an article our diabetes expert Amy Reeder, MS, RD, CDE, wrote to help you learn more about intermittent fasting and diabetes: http://www.diabeticconnect.com/diabetes-infor...

Jibber Jabber
Jibber Jabber 2015-03-27 20:40:14 -0500 Report

Thank you for the link…I am aware of the benefits of fasting on type 2 diabetes…however many people disagree if the same benefits hold true for women…woman's bio chemistry is different…we hold on to fat in different places harder and longer because of our hormones…I have started fasting and will give it at least three mos before I decide if it is "helping or hurting"…

vcandland
vcandland 2015-03-30 10:38:19 -0500 Report

Best of luck to you! Each body is different, so some people may respond better to intermittent fasting than others, regardless of gender.

JoleneAL
JoleneAL 2015-03-22 11:12:31 -0500 Report

I did an experiment yesterday and today. I didn't break my over night fast until brunch time - about 10 am. I had supper the night before between 6 and 6:30. So about 15 hours. From all I've read, this is another way to do IF. Well, both days, my BG climbed to almost 300 before I ate. So I guess that's out of the question. Maybe shift it to the end of the day? (sigh) I just want to move this weight loss along a bit more.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2015-03-16 10:07:07 -0500 Report

I have done it and it helps my numbers. Now I don't eat snacks like I used to during the day. I find if I go for a whole day the 24 hour fast, I end up with a liver dump. So what I do is extend the space between my meals. It took a little time to get the right space, but I have what works for me now.

Now that I have been having better numbers, I might try the long fast again. Since I am not dumping at night as bad as I used to, maybe I have cleaned it out a bit? Here is what I based my fasting on. http://www.diabeticconnect.com/diabetes-discussions/general/17956-intermittent-fasting. I used to do it for days at a time for religious reasons, but I would not feel comfortable doing that now as a diabetic.

gmad4
gmad4 2015-03-16 14:52:16 -0500 Report

Hi,just a quick question, what is liver dumping? I've never heard that before.

haoleboy
haoleboy 2015-03-16 16:31:57 -0500 Report

just posted this to another thread …
The liver stores excess glucose (sugar) in the form of glycogen. When we need a bit of energy the liver converts some of that glycogen back into glucose and "dumps" it back into the bloodstream.
One of the times we do this is early in the morning, as a means of making sure there is energy available to start our day. We also release insulin which allows that glucose to enter the cells. In non-diabetics, that insulin release is just enough to ensure that blood glucose levels return to normal quickly, but we diabetics are either insulin resistant or produce little or no insulin, meaning the glucose does not get taken into the cells but rather continues to circulate (which is where the trouble begins).

Steve

JoleneAL
JoleneAL 2015-03-16 12:09:17 -0500 Report

What he suggests makes since. I tend to eat breakfast and lunch close together, without a snack. I didn't see any reason for a snack if I wasn't hungry. Now I only have one, even in the long afternoon, if I am hungry, then it's a small apple, or half a Kind bar.

ssawyer57
ssawyer57 2015-03-16 09:51:15 -0500 Report

I started fasting today. I was concerned as my highest numbers are first thing in the morning but what you said about living with higher numbers in the short term to improve them in the long term made a lot of sense. Thanks!!

haoleboy
haoleboy 2015-03-15 12:40:12 -0500 Report

I'm strongly in favor of both ;)
Decreasing insulin resistance is my main reason for fasting and I believe it works.
The 5:2 IF method is a pretty safe way to go. Based on what you've posted here I can't imagine you would be subject to the risks as my caveats would be … Eat plenty of protein and nutrient dense foods, avoid processed foods and test often on fasting days.
Good luck. Looking forward to hearing about your success.

Steve

Pegsy
Pegsy 2015-03-15 17:37:35 -0500 Report

What is the "The 5:2 IF method"?

haoleboy
haoleboy 2015-03-15 17:49:11 -0500 Report

A form of Intermittent Fasting - 5 days 'normal' eating two days with 500 calorie max intake. Has a good success rate for weight loss but, as with all fasting methods, not without its 'dangers'.

Pegsy
Pegsy 2015-03-15 18:44:39 -0500 Report

I think I could do this. Some days I just don't feel like eating much anyway. But with the Metformin I take, I guess this could be an issue. I have heard that fasting is good for helping with "dawn phenomenon" which is a big issue for me. I will need to research this some more and see if it may be an option for me to consider.

JoleneAL
JoleneAL 2015-03-16 05:16:30 -0500 Report

I thought it was just me … There I days I get to lunch and thereafter I can do without. My husband fusses at me I eat like a bird. Well if I ate like a bird, I wouldn't be 25# overweight!!!!

haoleboy
haoleboy 2015-03-15 18:50:22 -0500 Report

… don't tell anyone but … I have been taking metformin twice a day for 8 years now and almost never take it with meals (certainly not ever in the past two years)

Gabby
GabbyPA 2015-03-17 06:18:38 -0500 Report

I don't take mine with meals either. Well, sometimes my night time one is with my meal, but that is for convenience only. I take my AM dose about 3 hours before I eat. I don't suffer from that choice.

Pegsy
Pegsy 2015-03-15 18:54:20 -0500 Report

Lucky you. If I take it with too little food it affects me in a big, inconvenient way, LOL.

haoleboy
haoleboy 2015-03-15 19:14:03 -0500 Report

yeah … I guess the main reason you are supposed to take (regular, not extended release) metformin with food is to avoid stomach issues … on the other hand taking it increases its efficacy.

Pegsy
Pegsy 2015-03-15 19:48:55 -0500 Report

I take extended release and it still affects my stomach if I don't take it with enough food. It also hits me if my pharmacy suddenly changes brands. It wasn't as big of a problem when I was taking less, but at the full dose I have to be very careful. I would love to be able to get off of it or at least reduce it.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2015-03-17 06:20:16 -0500 Report

That is good to know. I take ER at night in my 1000 mg dose. But my AM dose is only 500 regular. I will keep that in mind. Thanks

JoleneAL
JoleneAL 2015-03-15 09:30:42 -0500 Report

I too was interested in this, however, because of the metformin, I can't fast. I don't eat after 7:30 pm and breakfast is around 8 am … That's almost 12 hours, so I'll stick with that. LOL

YankeeLady
YankeeLady 2015-03-15 01:54:51 -0500 Report

what kind of fasting ?? 24 hrs — or 12 — I have done both— I actually eat very little any day — and I'm ok - losing weight — inches— excess fat — so I say it works — for me anyway

Jibber Jabber
Jibber Jabber 2015-03-15 10:14:37 -0500 Report

two days a week calorie restrictive fasting…I cant do all day fasting I love food too much…I will eat normal (the way I eat now) for 5 days and then limited my calorie consumption my two fasting days to 500 per day..

Pegsy
Pegsy 2015-03-15 07:50:10 -0500 Report

What happens with your glucose readings when you fast? Mine goes up rather than down. My liver seems to go into overdrive! It seems to be that fasting for a longer term, in order to empty out the liver for a time may be beneficial but shorter, frequent fasts seem to be counter productive, for me anyway. I experience "dawn phenomenon" almost daily. High glucose every morning due to fasting during the night. I would definitely like to learn more about intermittent fasting before trying it.

Jibber Jabber
Jibber Jabber 2015-03-15 09:55:51 -0500 Report

well I am planning to fast 2X per week…it is more of a calorie restrictive fast..not a complete fast..where on the two fasting days I keep my overall calorie consumption to about 500 calories…so I will eat two light meals on my fasting days…maybe two eggs in the morning..and a small serving of protein with some greens for dinner…I am not too worried about rising BG levels on my fasting days…yeah it DOES tick me off when I go higher than I think I should go..but I am doing the fasting to improve my insulin resistance which in the long run is a more solid plan for treating my diabetes (in my opinion)..then just worrying about BG levels from day to day…

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