Newly diagnosed Type II here

By remiglo Latest Reply 2009-07-04 18:27:00 -0500
Started 2009-06-23 18:49:48 -0500

Hi, Remi here…
I just got my Type II diagnosis 2 weeks ago. I’ve been sort of flying blind and doing what I can to learn more about this. I’m a recovering alcoholic who got sober in 1999 and had a few relapses but have been sober nearly 8 years (not all continuously 2+ years this time). One thing I have learned from recovery is that you cannot change everything overnight, it’s a process and forward progress is what’s most important. I drank to change the way I felt and I also eat to excess to change the way I feel.

I’m 44 …..and I’m a big guy 6’2 weigh 350lbs (fat) use to play sports. I have been sedentary for quite a while now. My legs and feet have been huge for many months and Dr. has instructed me to walk a little farther each day no matter what…just to do it. Despite my size I have a zero heart problems, no problems with cholesterol, and great blood pressure according to the Dr. Aside from being a great big fat guy (not the dr’s words) I’m in remarkably good health…so says the physician. Have settled into the morning insulin and pills twice a day. I’ve been lurking for a few days so I understand what others may have to do daily….I starting to appreciate that fact.

I see the dietician in 1 week and hope they have a workable plan for me. This portion thing just does not look right from yours truly at the table closest to the buffet. Food has always been a ritual of sorts in my family and I took that to the nth degree. I can name every tex/mex, burger, pizza, and bbq joint in every city I’ve lived in. This is not going to be an easy task for me. Suffice it to say I eat like I drank booze….until it was ALL gone.

I‘ve already been bargaining with myself since the dietician is a week away and been sneaking a regular 20oz soda daily, a full sub sandwich a few days ago, payday candybar here and there, etc. I love all foods and things like triscuit or wheat thins and cheese….the only problem is I’ll sit and work and munch away an entire box of wheat thins while working …then go home and eat dinner healthy or otherwise. I have always loved yoghurt and eat the dannon fruit on the bottom stuff with a handful of plain M&M’s in it (just kidding) I put natural granola with almonds in it for breakfast.

I have always loved veggies, salads, nuts, oats, granola, dark breads, turkey, actually lots of what I perceive to be really decent foods…..but in really decent quantities.

A question……I know the 2 litre Regular Pepsi days are over, I like ice tea with equal and have discovered Arizona Diet Green Tea w/Ginseng (No Calories with Splenda) I like this a quite lot … could someone tell me if it’s an acceptable “Free” drink.

This diabetic food pyramid portion thing just does not look good at first blush I must tell you. Any input will be greatly appreciated. I’ll apologize in advance to those who might feel I have a cavalier or reckless attitude toward this……it’s how I cope.

16 replies

Sally 2009-06-25 13:48:01 -0500 Report

I never thought I would get used to diet soda, but when I was first diagnosed, I didn't drink anything but water for three days straight. Then I went to a nearby pop machine and got three or four diet pops all different flavors and got them really cold, and ya know, they tasted damn good. I found my favorite and still drink it. Try the Coke zero, it is a little easier to adjust to then diet pepsi, or try pepsi one. You will adjust, it sucks at first, but I think starving yourself of pop for a day or two, helps. You are so ready for anything other than water, and like I said, the colder the better. Good luck, pop was really hard for me. I have been on diet soda for almost a year now. I have also lost 40 pounds thru diet changes. You can do it.

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-07-04 18:27:00 -0500 Report

I have drunk diet sodas for years, while my aging mom wanted the "real thing"! It was so funny for me to take her into McD, she was fairly thin, aged 96 to 98, before she passed. We used to laugh together over our choices. She was NOT a Diabetic either. So mom got the last laugh, as usual!

I did find this Lipton's Diet Tea, Lemon flavored, that seems to soothe one of my cravings—-hope it is carb free, afraid to look! ha—the old ostrich and I are on a first name basis! PR

Antique-Dave 2009-06-25 09:16:10 -0500 Report

I'm newly dx in March with T2 and at the time my A1c was 10.9 but my cholesterol and BP was also way out of whack.

In 3 months of listening to the folks on the forums my A1c is down to 6.1 and BP and cholesterol are pretty good as well.

If you can work a recovery program you can do this hands down.

Sarg gave some pretty sage advice.

I dropped all of the sugary drinks immediately, no pop at all, after about 8 weeks I had a diet soda and it actually tasted good, which was surprising because I had diet pop before and thought it was awful.

I stopped the candy, chips, all of the junk food, fast food, ate more nuts cheese fruits veggies for snacks, Fish chicken hamburger and steak for meats, much less hot dogs lunch meats or bologna, cut way back on breads, buns,had no potatoes,

tried some of the sugar free stuff and came to the conclusion that for most things I'd rather have less of the real thing then more of the other, between the taste and the additional cost it just didn't seem worthwhile.

I loosely count carbs, I want to be below 135 for a day, once my BGL settled down into normal numbers I found that I can have A whopper Jr, or A hot dog on a bun, A single BLT, I eat to my meter, if my BGL is 120 or below I'll have a few more carbs if its over 120 less carbs, my 2 weeks average fluctuates between 118 and 124 right now.

Eat smaller amounts more often, Breakfast is important and after awhile add that mini candy bar SARG talks about, (I did)

you'll do great

cakeybakes 2009-06-24 19:32:00 -0500 Report

Welcome! It's always a shock and a bit of anger/denial/sadness at first. You'll learn a lot here! Good luck!

lipsie 2009-06-24 15:01:11 -0500 Report


Welcome to the site! I am sure you learn so much here and meet lots of lovely people, not just here for Diabetes…as a friend too. We all care and work together. You have been given some excellent information today so I am sure you are trying to adjust and take that in itself. It takes lots of time, and to be honest I have been diagnoised for years and I am still learning, I have the same issue…portions. I am also a big woman..about 400 pds myself. But as long as my legs are being nice to me I walk pretty much every day now. Well good luck and welcome! *HugS* Sheila

remiglo 2009-06-24 15:18:25 -0500 Report

Hi, this is obviously a terrific site with a caring community that's very active.

I'm so glad I found it.


John Crowley
John CrowleyCA 2009-06-24 13:55:25 -0500 Report

Welcome, Remi.

Sarg has given you some great advice. I would add that you will want to learn all about using your blood sugar meter. Here's a great article on that topic.

Also, I know you're giving a wistful farewell to your regular soda, sub sandwich, and candy bar. But you're not doing your body any favors. Your eyes, your kidneys, your heart, your toes--they all suffer damage when your blood sugars skyrocket. I know it's a learning process, but you've got to start making the changes--even if they're small changes--right away.

Here are a few healthy eating tips:

Best of luck.

remiglo 2009-06-24 14:26:16 -0500 Report

Thanks John

Yes, saying goodbye to old habits is tough…I'm gonna make through this and hopefully get to a good place.


Sarguillo 2009-06-24 13:13:43 -0500 Report

to know if its a free drink, look at the label and if its zero on both carb and sugar, its a free drink. Ice tea with meals is safe as long as you only put in artificial sugar.

Sarguillo 2009-06-24 13:12:38 -0500 Report

Make Diet Pepsi your friend. Instead of Wheat thins ( l love them too), snack on baby carrots when working at your desk. Celery with a little peanut butter. Put the items on a plate. Throw in a few wheat thins or Shredded wheat on your plate, keep this plate at your desk. Watch that you dont eat it all at one sitthing. Work, take a bite, do some more work. Dont refill your plate. Make it last. I too am desk bound at work. But I get to get up and walk from time to time.

Sarguillo 2009-06-24 13:07:40 -0500 Report

Hello, From a big guy Type 2 myself. I also am 6'3' and topped off at 412 lbs, so, been there, done that. Am down to about 300 lbs at the moment. First off, welcome. you are not alone. You have alot to learn, and hopefully, you will learn. Congrats on your 2 year birthday. as you learned in group, life is to be lived, and nothing is free, and change does not happen overnight. So dont sweat it. You have the time to learn. do what seems best for you within limits.

Now to the nuts and bolts of things.
Untill you learn portion control, please dont go to a buffet. I as a young man was taught to eat everything on my plate, and at a buffet, that can be dangerous for us.
I tend to eat more now than I ate earlier in my life. But I am eating healthier.
Please cut down on carbs, Slowly, Start off by cutting down on white bread. Substitude double fiber bread if needed, Atleast 4% fiber. Toast it and it will taste fine. Or do an open face sandwich so you are only eating one slice of bread.
Cut out that payday bar for now.
Fine a candy that you do like, if its payday, then get a bag of payday snack size. Eat one, and only one a day. that should take care of your candy craving. There is nothing we cant eat as long as we take portions into account. Me, I eat a mini reeses peanut butter cup a day. I Buy it in the 4 lb bags. It lasts a while.
for late night cravings, try baby carrots with a low fat dressing. Watch the carbs on the dressing.
Remember, carbs=Sugar=carbs.
Saltines with peanut butter or sugar free jam.
Myself, I tend to eat more vegtables, and more meat. Less carbs and less processed foods.
When Thankgiving comes along, I load up on turkey, and less on the side dishes unless its a vegtable.
Please make sure you are eating breakfast every morning.
I used to skip it and eat a big lunch and pig out at dinner.
Now I eat breakfast, a normal lunch and a healthier dinner.
You might want to keep a log of what you are eating and what your blood sugars are daily.
That should give you a guide to what foods will do what to your blood sugars.
Back to low carbs, I am a big beleiver in salad wraps.
Did you know you can have a BLT without any bread? Yes, just put tomatotes and a few (Read, more than one) slices of bacon in a leaf of lettuce.
Fold over the lettuce and enjoy.
Even put some mayo on the lettuce if you like. This is lower carbs and is better for you than eating that bread.
A lesson, There is no such thing as sugar free (Almost true).
If it says sugar acohol or somthing like that, it still has sugar, but less (about half of normal sugar)
When you look at labels, dont look at the sugar content, look at the carb content.
Milk has a sugar so keep milk down to half cut (8 oz glass) at a time.
Fruit juice is better than soda, but keep it to small glasses.
Weean yourself off soda.
Start drinking diet soda.
At first, you are going to hate the taste.
But after a while, it will start to taste better when your body starts to not crave the sugar so much.
After a while, if you do try to drink a full sugar soda, it tastes like syrup.
I make sure the house is always supplied with fake sugar drinks. Crystal light, Kool Aide (sugar free style) others that are like these type of drinks. I tend to drink more at night and I find that it cuts down on the cravings to munch and snack.
Please do walk eveyday.
If you have a dog, take it for a walk.
You might both enjoy the outing.

Please pay attention to the dietician.
She will have alot of good ideas and if you follow 50% of them, then you are better off then before she came along.

Please feel free to ask questions.
We have all been there and we as a group have alot of experience that we are willing to share with you.

Glad you found us.

You are not alone.

remiglo 2009-06-24 14:19:05 -0500 Report

Thanks Sarg, lots of god stuff there that I need to know. It's all a blur right now but getting clearer.

First thing I did was check the label on this Arizona Diet Green Tea it says 0- carb 0- sugar and it has Splenda. I drink alot so hopefully the Dietician will sign off on this as a drink…it's what I have right now.

Diet Pepsi is tough to do but I'll give it a go. Love my fizzy soda.

As you say portions looks like the real sticky place for me, I get really hungry and there's just not a cut off switch in me yet. I'm trying.

Late night is where I get in big trouble.

Will give the plate at work thing a try…and try not to fill it back up all day long.

Much appreciated

Judimar 2009-06-23 19:25:08 -0500 Report

Welcome Rem!

It's nice to have you with us. Hopefully you won't find the new diet too much of a challenge. The only advice I can give you is try to be conscious of how much you are eating. My husband does agree with you about portion size and he's not diabetic.. Try to stick with foods that are more filling maybe.

So glad you are here with us!



mamaoak 2009-06-23 19:08:57 -0500 Report

wellcome you can get lots of information on this site well watch your carbs and calories stay away from fas foods untell you get use to the carb counting for me it is 20 carbs in the mornig 30 at lunch and 40 for supper. 15 for snacks one in the mornig one in the afterrnoon and one befor bed. hope this helps.

remiglo 2009-06-24 14:34:37 -0500 Report

I like that…using the carbs as a limit per meal. No worries I have not had a Big-Mac in probably 2 months.

Thanks again

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