trying to get off of insulin

Joycefarmer
By Joycefarmer Latest Reply 2015-02-23 10:24:19 -0600
Started 2015-02-21 08:23:42 -0600

I've recently discovered through research, that I've been having an allergic reaction to "human insulin" for about the past 6 years. Found out that human insulin is not bio-compatible and is genetically modified with an e-coli and bakers yeast. I've had episodes of loss of warnings of hypos, extreme tiredness or lethargy, weight increase, pains in legs and knees. Now I also know that being overweight, and having had diabetes for about 20 yrs. can cause some of these complications in itself. But, walking has become so painfull, and my brainfog and depression has effected my life in a dark way. I've just stared a few days ago, trying to change my lifestyle. I'm aware of the foods to eat and the amount of exercise I need. I quit the insulin about 3 days ago, and I'm hovering around 190 with diet and walking 2xday for 30 mins. I'm about 40 lbs overweight. Any suggestions? My gp and endo are "textbook" Drs that lean heavily on synthetic drugs, and have misguided me severly in the past, so I really don't trust their judgement. Thankyou


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Joycefarmer
Joycefarmer 2015-02-22 18:34:07 -0600 Report

thanks Val for your concern. I've been off insulin for 5 days now, and have hi's of 190 and low's around 140. With diet and exercise, I haven't had any drastic changes yet, but I'm checking frequently. Thanks again for your advice

jayabee52
jayabee52 2015-02-23 05:39:35 -0600 Report

Joyce with those bg numbers you are flirting with diabetes complications. Perhaps you should not just quit injected insulin cold turkey. I agree with VL you need to consult with your Dr on this. Perhaps there might be a way of lowering your insulin intake gradually by consuming a stricter meal plan like I did. I had kept my BG in the vicinity of 80 to 130 mg/dl without the use of diabetes meds by following a low carb, high protein meal plan which discontinued all breads or grain based products and all starchy items as well. I had written the meal plan as a discussion and will share it with anyone who requests it.

I pray you get your BG levels under control as soon as possible, whether it will be using meal planning or injected insulin.
James

Joycefarmer
Joycefarmer 2015-02-23 10:24:19 -0600 Report

ok, you talked me into it. I just made an appt with my dr. for this thurs. I used to work in a dr's office, and am not impressed with most of their advice, it's a "headumup and moveumout" mindset. I'm using Novolin R before bed if BG is over 190. I only need about 2 units to bring it down 40 points or so.
Thanks for watching out for me! I'm interested in your meal plan if you can send it to me. I'm educated about the diabetic diet and am following it very closely, but I'm also 40 lbs overweight.
ps. I'm also walking 2xday for 30 mins.

valentine lady
valentine lady 2015-02-22 10:06:32 -0600 Report

Hi Joyce,
Welcome to DC ( diabetic connect ) First of all I would talk to my dr. Concerning your allergy. I.went off diabetic meds. but, not before I lost 60 lbs and my A1C got to 5.1. I had to be weaned off. It took 2 weeks. I do not reccomended you try this on your own. So much can go wrong. As an example…if your pancreas cannot produce enough insulin on its own your BG (blood glucose) will either go extremely high or extremely low and you could die or go into a diabetic coma. I know how expensive these meds are but your health is at stake. Please use common sense and refer to your dr. Take care of yourself…hugs, VL

jayabee52
jayabee52 2015-02-21 10:05:12 -0600 Report

Howdy Joyce
WELCOME to DC!

Perhaps your Dx of yourself as being allergic to your "human insulin" as most if not all of the synptoms you describe are the symptoms I have as a T2 who controls my diabetes without the use of any diabetes meds at all.

I had been on NPH insulin for about 4 yrs (x 2/day) and had no difficulty on it, but I had an accident and dropped the vial and in the time it took for me to get a new vial, I discovered my pancreas was able to produce enough insulin to manage my T2 without injecting my NPH if I ate very carefully.

I developed from that an experimental meal plan which was very low carb and high protein. With it, I have kept my BG (blood glucose). at around 80 to 130 mg/dl and at one point achieved an A1c of 5.5% and lost 65 lbs over a 5 mo period. I have continued on that meal plan for over 3 yrs and plan to continue with it until it doesn't work for me anymore. I offer this meal plan to anyone who is interested in taking a look at it.

Perhaps this might be helpful to you also.

Other than that, perhaps you could find Porcine insulin (from the pancreas of pigs), but you might have to have it sent to you from someplace like Canada or British Isles.see ~ http://www.diabetes.co.uk/insulin/animal-insu... and ~ http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/ResourcesForYou/Cons...

Praying for success in finding what works for you.

James

schroeterstudio
schroeterstudio 2015-02-21 09:34:03 -0600 Report

Hello Joycefarmer, I was diagnosed in nov 2014. I was 20lbs over weight and honestly all I did was cut out any food that came in a box. That was my first step. The next I introduced a protein shake everyday. I now weigh 22lbs less. I'm not going to say it was easy. The biggest thing I found was not cravings, but shopping out of habit. I loaded up the cart with fresh produce (lo carb, watch the fruit) and then built my meals around that. Veggies, you can eat until you can't take another bit. No advise really, just sharing my story. Hope it helps and know that you are not in this alone. You can do it! and as far as the meds, you just have to keep trying until you find one that works for you. I went through the same thing with the pills…Good luck and keep your chin up!