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By Pammysue1972 Latest Reply 2015-02-15 09:23:13 -0600
Started 2015-02-06 22:18:25 -0600

I was diagnosed with T2 a year and a half ago. I am done being angry about it and the denial stage didn't do it for me either… So deciding to take control on this. This is my first attempt at a coming to terms and to try to talk about it. I am 42 and my last A1C was three weeks ago and was 7.0. My dr wants me to eat five times a day and I can't seem to get there, any suggestions? Also my morning BG is a lot higher than I would like (165 or so). I welcome any suggestions and appreciate any support you guys may have for me.

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Mallacai 2015-02-15 09:23:13 -0600 Report

Good for you you finally decided to take the bull by the horns. As Haoleby said eat up as much information on the subject and start on the middle path as there are a lot of conflicting info out there and you will need to keep experimenting and changing your diet as what may work for me may not for you. Start off slow and work your way to better numbers. You may falter sometimes but don't be discouraged. My belief is your Dr. recognizes that you may not drop your food intake drastically so eating smaller meals spread out will not spike you blood sugar. You can eat differently just control your carb intake and monitor your B/G often with test strips. Wishing you the best.

Pammysue1972 2015-02-08 10:42:43 -0600 Report

LDL 55, HDL 28, CHOL 111, TRIG 142.

haoleboy 2015-02-08 11:53:33 -0600 Report

Part of taking control is becoming well informed about your condition. In that vein may I suggest a little reading?
Here are links to Google searches that might be of interest to you …
Triglyceride/HDL cholesterol ratio -
low carb high fat diet insulin resistance -

I am certainly not a medical expert … just someone dealing with diabetes and as a stroke survivor very conscious of heart health (and the relationship between the two).
I just figured that going into your meeting with a dietitian armed with some pertinent knowledge can't hurt.


Pammysue1972 2015-02-07 21:00:59 -0600 Report

The most frustrating part is I don't know what combos to eat they just tell me more fruits and veggies. To make matters worse I lost a tooth today so can't eat crap if I wanted to. I can make changes I just have poor guidance so far

jayabee52 2015-02-07 22:46:48 -0600 Report

Howdy Pammmysue
Don't worry about the combos. Eat high protein (and high fat) and low carbohydrate. avoid the starchy veggies, and the "simple carbs" for an example of simple and complex carbs see ~

Generally speaking the number of complex carbs for a female should be 35 to 45 g per meal (based on 3 meals per day)

Sorry to hear of your lost tooth you might have to put your food in a chopper and chop it up real fine, or into a blender and liquefy it. The last option there may not taste that great but it would be better than not eating at all till your gum bed heals. And you may well be able to chew around that area where you lost the tooth. My teeth are the pits and I do it all the time.

Praying thing will improve for you soon

Pammysue1972 2015-02-07 20:43:41 -0600 Report

I take 1000 mg meteor in twice a day. I was told 15 to 20 grams of carbs five times a day which seems too high to me with all I have read. The issue with the food is that I don't get hungry until early afternoon. I am setting up an appt with a dietitian to help with my diet. Other than my BG the only other thing is my HDL is at 28. I am not very active at all.

haoleboy 2015-02-07 21:42:21 -0600 Report

I'm guessing your triglycerides (TG) are over 100. Do you happen to have that info? Low HDL and high TG are a strong indicator of insulin resistance.
Your 7.0 A1c is not terrible … were I you I would focus on improving cholesterol ratios and getting to "ideal" weight by eating low carb high fat and exercising daily … doing so will improve your insulin resistance and lower you blood glucose levels (and your heart will thank you too).
… and I am with you … eating 5 times a day will never work for me, I eat 2 times and find that does the trick … but we all have to find what works for us. after 7 years I am still tweaking my health routines.


Cherokeemaiden 2015-02-07 10:50:13 -0600 Report

You have come to the right place, Pam, if you need info and a good support group. I've only been on here about 3 weeks and I've already learned more in that short time then I did since being diagnosed T2 over 4 years ago. Don't be afraid to ask questions, even if you think they might be silly, or that they may have already been asked a hundred times by others. Everyone here is ready to help you along your journey and they don't mind repetitive questions…or what you might think are silly. Good luck to you & God Bless.

RosalieM 2015-02-07 08:16:19 -0600 Report

What are you taking if anything? If your morning blood sugar is 165, you have too much carbohydrate in your diet, It get loaded in your liver to be released overnight. A good way to start is to eliminate all potatoes, rice, flour and anything made from it and sugar. Eat meat, protein such as cheese, eggs,
unsweetened yogurt ( you can use Splenda or pure stevia) as a sweetener.
Do not eat low fat anything but full fat. Add to that fruit and vegetables. eat no processed foods. If you do this, within a week your liver will empty out of the excess stored glucose. You will also probably start losing weight. You need to learn about food and how they effect blood sugar. That takes time but with the
diet suggestions above you can get started right away and learn as you go.

sweetslover 2015-02-07 08:00:52 -0600 Report

Welcome to DC. You will find a lot of support here. Personally, I cannot eat 5 times a day without gaining weight. You did not mention what medication you are on. I am on metformin. If I do get hungry between meals, I snack on almonds, sunflower seeds, or celery with some peanut butter. My normal routine is a small handful of sunflower seeds in the afternoon if I get hungry—they take a while to eat, which helps. If I am hungry after supper, then I go to the celery. It really fills me up and I have had some fantastic morning BG readings when I do this—in the 80's. Of course I watch my carb intake all day long. Good luck. Experiment a little and see what works for you.

jayabee52 2015-02-07 03:44:19 -0600 Report

Howdy PammySue.
It is great that you are starting to take control of your BG (blood glucose).

You say you can't get to eating 5 times per day. What seems to be holding you back? If it is too much food, reduce the amount and gradually build up to where you should be. Did your Dr give you a amount of carbohydrates you should be eating per day? He should have or have referred you to a registered dietician (RD) for meal planning counseling.

Regarding your high AM (fasting) numbers. It may well be a case of dawn phenomenon AKA a liver dump.

I had a problem with dawn phenomenon a couple of years into my Dx with T 2.

I spoke with my Dr about it and he suggested eating a graham cracker slathered with peanut butter. (sime folks use a couple of apple slices with a teaspoon of peanut butter on each)
I followed his advice and it worked for me.

The protein and complex carb combo keeps the tummy digesting through most of the night and you have a constant stream of nourisment going to the bloodstream so you don't ever go low enough to trigger a liver dump.

Praying for improving health for us all


lilleyheidi 2015-02-06 23:42:16 -0600 Report

Good for you for deciding to take control and coming out of that anger/denial stage. I sat in denial and anger for 4 1/2 years so I can relate. You say your doctor wants you to eat 5 times a day. Often what they mean by that is 3 meals and 2 snacks or 5 small meals. A lot of people I know eat 3 meals and 2 snacks. For snacks you may try something like nuts or seeds. Almonds or sunflower seeds are very healthy for you.
Your BG could be higher in the AM because of what is known as the Dawn Phenomenon. There are a lot of articles here in DC and online about it. I'm sure others will pipe up about it, but it is a normal thing that happens to a lot of people in the morning hours.
Best of luck to you. Heidi