Skim milk and other fat free foods

By suecsdy Latest Reply 2015-02-05 20:14:53 -0600
Started 2015-02-03 11:16:43 -0600

I downloaded a book for the "Dash Diet" yesterday and all I can say is I am getting more frustrated and confused. It does have some good ideas and recipes that I will try to use, but why are all these diets so bent on my drinking skim milk or 1% milk? I cannot stand the sight of skim milk and 1% isn't much better. It also advocates the use of margerine instead of butter and any cheeses should be low fat. I know I need to limit salt and fat in my diet for the blood pressure and kidney issues, but I would still like to enjoy my food. I can handle lowfat cheese, but have always preferred butter over margerine. If I am going to sin with a piece of toast, it's going to have real butter on it and milk has to be at least 2%. I don't have it all the time, just occasionally. I think there is more salt in the items that I purchase than in what I prepare as I don't cook with salt . Mrs Dash is my seasoning of choice. I think limiting the salt is going to be more difficult than the fats because just about everything has salt added. This just gets worse every day. Oh, and according to the guidelines in this book, I should be drinking 90 plus ounces of water everyday. Damn, just float me down the river, or set up camp in the bathroom. I am drinking more, and all the pipes are still working, but I'm not up to 90 ozs! It also seems to be more geared toward people that don't have to limit carbs quite so much as it does allow for some grains. Ok, guess that's it for now Any input is welcome.

18 replies

GabbyPA 2015-02-05 20:14:53 -0600 Report

When you remove one item in food, you have to add another to compensate. So when they take fat out, they tend (not always, but as a rule) to add sugar to it. So I don't tend to eat fat free foods.

Coopie19 2015-02-04 18:00:47 -0600 Report

The dietitian we had in the class I had to take on learning about diabetes said that in the matter of butter verses margarine that it was up to us what we used just count it. I too am a butter eater instead of margarine after reading up on margarine and I don't drink milk except once in a blue moon so I buy the whole mild for my coffee and cooking. If I don't cook I use less than a 1/4 cup. I would keep the butter.

BBtrouble 2015-02-04 07:18:05 -0600 Report

Sue, try the skim milk from Braum's. It has added milk solids and tastes really good and is thicker than other skim milks. Also, Land O Lakes Light soft butter is a good substitute for margarine. It has real butter and olive oil.

suecsdy 2015-02-03 23:43:57 -0600 Report

Already doing the low carb, high protein thing, but now also need to limit salt and to some extent fat. Since all these ideas are floating around, I thought I'd check it out. The book only cost $1 and does have a few good recipes so all is not lost, but when I saw it reccomended margerine over butter, with margerine being only slightly removed from plastic, I was very surprised. It doesn't advocate diet drinks, just that you drink a lot(for me), which I know is good overall but for the amount I would need with this plan, I would never be able to stray far from home. As for skim milk, it seems every diet plan out there calls for it and I always thought it looked like scared water. I keep thinking my food should still be appealing, but I guess that ship has sailed already.

Anonymous 2015-02-03 22:53:04 -0600 Report

Hi Sue
I read your diet plan and spoke to James about it. He told me it was more of an eating plan for people with hypertension.
He has done some research on this particular eating plan. I think your looking for a special diet for diabetics. The low carb
high protein diet. My suggestion is this. Eating for us is a way of life. A lot of us have profected it to the point looking like s diet but it really sin"t that hard. I started by eating 4 oz. of meat and about 3/4 cup of Vegas and a dinner salad. The more I read here I profected it. There are wonderful ideas here that all have contributed to. The recipe section had more recipes then you would ever usprof do need to learn by asking. But ask these wonderful people here. Check out the recipe section. You'll find your way. Good eating to you, VL P.S. skim milk is yucky . ;-)

valentine lady
valentine lady 2015-02-03 23:00:41 -0600 Report

I didn't' mean to make this anonymous. It's Me valentine lady who wrote the previous post. I didn't' mean this, I made a boo-boo. Hugs. Vl

BreC 2015-02-03 19:30:09 -0600 Report

I have heard and read many times that eating low fat or drinking diet drinks doesn't fill you up and you would eat more. Not saying that is a fact but it does kinda make sense. I won't drink anything diet.

Type1Lou 2015-02-03 17:55:33 -0600 Report

Whole milk is 4% fat, I believe. We drink the 2% milk but I often use whipping cream in recipes. Low-fat cheese to me tastes like plastic…I won't eat it. (My mother, who was raised on a farm and lived til nearly 98 years old, used to wrinkle her nose at skim milk…she called it "blue milk" and said they used to give that to the pigs.) I actually don't pay attention to the fats I do eat. My cholesterol levels are good with triglycerides in the 50's. Many low-fat versions of foods have higher carbohydrate content. I'm more concerned with the carbs than I am with the fats.

sweetslover 2015-02-03 13:43:20 -0600 Report

When I need to make changes in diet, I have to do it gradually. I work on changing 1 or 2 things at a time until I have that mastered. If I try to change everything at once, I am setting myself up for failure. I suggest you pick 1 major change you need to make and concentrate on that until you are ready to make more changes.

Pegsy 2015-02-03 13:09:45 -0600 Report

This dash diet is very unhealthy. I make a point of eating REAL foods and do my best to stay away from packaged foods. They contain a lot of salt and unhealthy fats and chemicals that no one's body needs.

Refined Ruffian
Refined Ruffian 2015-02-03 12:38:34 -0600 Report

Since being diagnosed and watching my diet I have discovered that many non-fat foods are higher is sugars (and therefore carbs) than the full fat versions. I will continue to eat fats in their natural state and simply try to reduce the amount of fatty foods I eat. Fortunately, I like olive oil and salmon so my fat intake is loaded with the good fats.

I have also found that the diabetes cook books and magazines are very poor. I will not use them.

haoleboy 2015-02-03 12:15:28 -0600 Report

the dash diet recommends getting 55% of your caloric intake from carbs ,,, that is 275 grams of carbs for a 2000 kcal diet, not diabetic friendly in my book.


Jibber Jabber
Jibber Jabber 2015-02-03 11:44:05 -0600 Report

OMG I can't stop laughing…float me down a river!!!!!…well first of all margarine is poison…if I read that in any diet I would chuck any book it was in directly into the trash…I wouldn't even read anymore…just bye bye…it is VERY important that you find a diet that you are comfortable with and can realistically stick to..or you will be setting yourself up to fail…sounds like this DASH diet is NOT the one for you..

RosalieM 2015-02-03 11:40:27 -0600 Report

Hi Sue,
Get rid of that book. That information obsolete. Get trans fats (fake fat) out of your diet and reduce the carbs to cut the triglycerides. Trans fats in processed foods and triglycerides in carbs are the two bad fats. Saturated fat is good as in butter and whole milk.

suecsdy 2015-02-03 12:20:21 -0600 Report

Are unsaturated fats the same as transfats?

RosalieM 2015-02-03 13:15:04 -0600 Report

Hi Sue,
Olive oil is good. Trans fats are solid or semi solid like Crisco and margarine. Too much vegetable oil provide too mulch
Omega Six. The omega six and Omega and omega six get out of balance and this imbalance has health consequences.
Butter, lard, coconut oil and olive oil should meet all your needs.
Processed foods are out as they have trans fats or omega six vegetable oils.