Thinking too much brain hurts...

Jibber Jabber
By Jibber Jabber Latest Reply 2015-02-05 20:22:06 -0600
Started 2015-02-03 10:03:25 -0600 I have been putting chia in my morning shake mostly because 1) it increases the fiber in the shake dramatically and 2) Chia has been linked to improved insulin sensitivity…great right…well maybe in all other places by the Catherine Realm of existence, because knowing what… is never good enough for me, I have to know why…so in my reading..blah blah blah…I find out that chia forms a protective barrier in the tummy that significantly lowers the rate at which our bodies absorb carbs…STILL GREAT RIGHT????…oh you are now in The Catherine Realm, a place very similar to the Twilight Zone where nothing is trusted or believed… so a few days pass and I am on the sofa..and questions start popping into my head about this protective barrier formed by the chia…If it slows the absorption of carbs…is it possible it can also slow the absorption of nutritional supplements…and more importantly oral medications…I have been having trouble finding out any info on this..and would be interested in knowing if anyone else has run across any information that might answer this question…

15 replies

GabbyPA 2015-02-05 20:22:06 -0600 Report

I soak chia and drink it, and when you do that you can see the film it creates around each seed. It's kind of like frog egg looking, for lack of a better analogy. I don't know that it affects other carbs or just the ones it contains in the seeds. It has a really neat history if you get into that. The Mia Indians used to consume it for long runs carrying messages or in war. It is light weight, high energy and is said to increase their stamina. So it was generally used alone, not with other food on the run, so I don't know if it changes the nutritional absorption of other things.

JoleneAL 2015-02-04 09:24:17 -0600 Report

You and my gal-friend Julie need to get together. She does this all the time. Makes MY head hurt. ;) ;) (hugs) I stopped using it because it costs too dang much and just chew on celery a lot.

Pegsy 2015-02-03 13:33:00 -0600 Report

Hmmm. I never considered this. I wonder if I should take my meds with less fiber and increase my fiber at other meals.

Jibber Jabber
Jibber Jabber 2015-02-03 14:38:00 -0600 Report

I didn't mean to cause a change in anyones diet…and frankly I think it is just the chia…as soon as chia hits water or any other liquid it starts to form a gel…hence all my chia pudding recipes…you can add chia to almond milk ..add some cacao and sweetener and after 15 minutes in the fridge have thick pudding…so I am assuming THIS same effect is what causes the "barrier" to form in the stomach…I do not think it happens with any other source of fiber..

RosalieM 2015-02-03 16:10:48 -0600 Report

That thickening from chia seeds is soluble fiber. It isn't the problem. It is the husk which is insoluble that prevent absorption,
Chia and flax have both.

Jibber Jabber
Jibber Jabber 2015-02-03 20:19:02 -0600 Report

well I am NO doctor but my guess is ANY barrier between the stomach and whatever it is that needs to be absorbed is going to cause an issue…after all it is a barrier…if that barrier is a gel like substance from the chia…I am guessing THAT is what causes the absorption issues..

haoleboy 2015-02-03 16:34:10 -0600 Report

I think the issue with soluble fiber is that it delays the absorption of the medication much as it delays the absorption of of carbohydrates. might be an issue depending on the meds … I guess.

Pegsy 2015-02-03 15:03:13 -0600 Report

Interesting effect. I wonder if I could use chia with almond milk and stevia to make ice cream.

haoleboy 2015-02-03 12:38:46 -0600 Report

it can delay or reduce absorption … but for me the benefit outweighs the risk


Jibber Jabber
Jibber Jabber 2015-02-03 14:41:42 -0600 Report

well my BG levels are falling the more I tweet my diet…and that includes the addition of the chia…so I am going to continue using it in my morning shakes..but will stop with the puddings at night because I take my meds at night…BTW I am down to just 500MG of metformin at night..(grin)..not bad for a chicky that started out on 2000 MG at the end of Oct…

RosalieM 2015-02-03 11:56:01 -0600 Report

Hi Jibber, t
To question is very good. I wish more people did it. The key words you want to use is fiber and minerals and you will get all the information you want.
The phytic (spelling?) acid in the hulls of the chia seeds as well as the insoluable fiber can prevent the absorption of minerals, supplements and I assume perhaps medication too. There is not full agreement. Soluble fiber is not as much of a problem as insoluble fiber. I use a lot of Hi maize 260 which is soluble fiber. It also helps prevent absorption of carbohydrates and fat.
We do need some fiber of both kinds. It is natural to foods. One could time the taking of medication and fiber to prevent the problem. There is also disagreement about it. I may consider cutting back on flax seed as it would be the same. Since I inject inulin, I take no drugs, I can't help you with medication.

Refined Ruffian
Refined Ruffian 2015-02-03 10:27:00 -0600 Report

Ah, the overly inquisitive mind. An old friend and I would drink stout on the front porch well into the morning hours while over thinking everything. A blessing and a curse all at once.