Getting a perm or dying hair

By BreC Latest Reply 2015-02-02 07:48:45 -0600
Started 2015-01-28 15:29:33 -0600

I in my younger years got my hair permed at least 2 times a year. I was told that if I was on medication the perm would fall out quicker or not take at all. I also used to dye my hair often and was told that some medications would effect the outcome. I have since just went with whatever my hair did naturally. My hair is like my fathers. Salt and pepper color although while growing up it was naturally blondish brown…
I am curious as to if insulin or diabetic meds would effect the outcome of coloring or perming hair.

33 replies

rangerlina 2015-02-01 23:52:34 -0600 Report

I color my hair regularly. It tends to do OK, although I have noticed the colors do not take as easily as they once did (no idea if this has anything to do with diabetes and/ or meds or not).

sweetslover 2015-02-01 12:57:47 -0600 Report

I don't know about perms and coloring, but I have a hair related question. First of all, my thyroid has been checked and is OK. I noticed before I was diagnosed that my hair was shedding in huge amounts and is now very thin. Can this be from the diabetes? Also, after I started metformin, all the hair on my arms fell off. It is now growing back. Again, is this from the diabetes? Will my head hair grow thick again? I don't care if my arms stay hairless, but I do worry about what I will look like bald. :)

oink66 2015-01-31 01:09:04 -0600 Report

01/30/2015, Derar BreC,
I am T2D I wore a curly perm for years but last year I started experiencing sever hair shedding, later after being diagnosed and put on Metformin, my hair fell out at the crown almost bald which forced me to cut my hair very very short & go natural, by the way I'm absolutely loving no chemicals & processing of my hair. I do however DYE my hair myself with NO side effects. Deep condition afterwards & message in Aragon Oil & Olive Oil to seal in the moisture. I have learned to EMBRACE my natural God given Naps, Coils & Curls ( :

valentine lady
valentine lady 2015-01-29 20:53:28 -0600 Report

Hi BreC
I talked to my stylist today and she said because diabetes
medications are so strong they can affect one or the other but primarily a perm. That's not 100% for everyone. You would just have to try it and see. The problem with a perm would be it would fall out to soon. The color may not come out true. Could be slightly lighter or darker. I color my hair and have no problens what's so ever. I don't perm my hair. Just thought I'd let you k ow what I found out. Hugs to all, VL

jayabee52 2015-01-29 20:59:58 -0600 Report

I just learned something about you! LoL.
will talk in a few minutes.

Love ya baby!

valentine lady
valentine lady 2015-01-30 22:55:04 -0600 Report

Hi Sweetheart
The only thing I can think of is i color my hair. But,
I'm sure I already told you. Oh well,either way now
you know.
Love U

BreC 2015-01-29 21:48:53 -0600 Report

Thanks VL. I haven't decided for sure if I want to do either. With my back in such a bad way I think it wouldn't be a good idea to be bend over the sink to do the steps.

Jibber Jabber
Jibber Jabber 2015-01-29 14:54:37 -0600 Report

I have colored my hair only once since being diagnosed…and everything was fine..I didn't notice any difference…a matter of fact after reading this I decided it was time for a cut and color so I am out the door to the salon now…They cut my hair…then I come home and color it myself…not paying anyone for something I can do easy breezy on my own…but yeah no difference…and I like to change things up…will pick up hair dye on the way home..haven't decided if I am going darker or lighter…my hubby will come home a a different wifey…lmao…but he is use to it..

MAM-MA 2015-01-29 21:09:32 -0600 Report

I was told to color hair before cutting. Reason being, damage done by coloring can be trimmed away.

Jibber Jabber
Jibber Jabber 2015-01-30 01:36:22 -0600 Report

My hair is baby soft…and baby fine…but I have never had a problem with damage…i would rather get the cut first because it makes the coloring easier…less hair to color..

BreC 2015-02-02 07:48:45 -0600 Report

My hair has always been very thick. I have had many stylist comment about it but not in a bad way. I used to wear my hair long but I have migraines and get more of them when my hair is long. I think it is from the heaviness of the hair. That is the main reason that I keep mine short. It's also easier for me to wear something over my ears when I go out.

Pegsy 2015-01-31 12:11:46 -0600 Report

I am told that coloring helps improve the texture of hair. Does it make a difference for you? My hair is fine and very flyaway. As I begin to gray, the flyaway is even worse. I have had perms in the past but I have never colored my hair. I don't have enough gray yet to make me want to but I don't know how I will feel about that in the (near?) future. I say I don't want to start down that road but I may feel differently about it when the gray takes over, LOL.

Jibber Jabber
Jibber Jabber 2015-02-01 06:49:40 -0600 Report

It helps a little but not really enough to color just for the affect…no matter what I do with my hair it is just baby fine and limp..lmao..wont hold a curl..and unless I spray it so much a helmet forms doesn't stay where I put it at all…a pain in the ass yes..but in the grand scheme of life..not important at all..

Pegsy 2015-02-01 07:45:35 -0600 Report

I agree. I keep it at a length that can go into a ponytail when necessary. I'm thinking about bangs to cover the massive forehead but fear that will bring out the prominent nose, LOL. My daughter thinks some choppy, uneven bangs will do the trick. She usually gives good advice. I doubt I will ever color my hair. I don't want to become a prisoner to the process.

BreC 2015-01-29 15:20:17 -0600 Report

Yeah, I have always colored my own hair. Of course I haven't done it in a long while. My husband also got used to seeing a different hair color. I have some hair color here. Maybe when my back gets a bit better I can color it again. Like you, I am not going to pay someone boo-coo's of money to do it when I can do it myself.

suecsdy 2015-01-29 07:50:46 -0600 Report

Mostly, I would like to get my hair back to what it was before thyroid meds. It is growing back, but it's going to take along time.

suecsdy 2015-01-29 07:47:06 -0600 Report

I've dyed my hair twice in my life. Decided it wasn't something I want to do. Mother Nature has blessed me with a lovely shade of silver grey and I like it. Years ago, I had my two small grandsons with me at the store and one pointed to a box of straight pins and said they were the same color as my hair. I started to tell him that my hair was dark brown, and then I realized he was right. Lol. Out of the mouths of babes…

GabbyPA 2015-01-29 05:33:39 -0600 Report

I have no idea. I had never heard of any of that before about meds and perms. All of my perms were done WAY before my diabetes and I was never on meds when I did them, so I would be curious. My mom used to perm her hair as a diabetic, but she always kept it so short that it would be cut out before it could ever relax.

RebDee 2015-01-28 20:51:55 -0600 Report

I too was told not to perm or dye my hair because of my Diabetes. But I don't know exactly why. Except that when I shower and wash my hair, lots of hair falls out. So I am now au naturale.

GabbyPA 2015-01-29 05:35:57 -0600 Report

I look at it this way....I earned my gray. I wear it proudly. Though it is very little still even over 50. But my day will come when I wake up gray all in one day. Kind of like my mom did. I would love to have hair like my grandmother. She had that beautiful white hair with all kinds of body still in her 90's.

sweetslover 2015-02-01 13:02:18 -0600 Report

I have to agree with you on gray hair. I believe I earned every one of them and I plan to keep them that way. They are my badge of survival. :)

BreC 2015-01-29 15:39:02 -0600 Report

My Granny Harris's hair when she let it down to brush it was long enough to reach her knees. Hers was grayish white and beautiful. She kept her hair in a bun. My mother just turned 87 on Jan 26th and in a picture that was made of her she looks just like Granny. Awe such memories.

GabbyPA 2015-01-30 07:47:32 -0600 Report

They just wear it AL-natural....very nice. I am afraid I got my dad's hair. Thin, thin, thin...oh well. That's what hats are for.

BreC 2015-01-30 10:35:39 -0600 Report

I keep my hair short now. I have Occipital Neuralgia. That means that a nerve that run up the side of my neck and behind my ear is damaged. It feels like a very bad earache. When I go out I am supposed to wear something over my ears to keep wind from getting into my ears. And I have to use cotton balls in my ears in the shower to keep water out. Just a price I have to pay. It does get aggravating sometimes and especially when it's hot out.

Type1Lou 2015-01-28 16:41:40 -0600 Report

I started out as a towhead and was a strawberry blond as a young woman. I have naturally wavy hair so, I never had a perm but, I did straighten my hair in the late 60's (ah…the foolishness of youth!)…I wanted to look like Mary Travers from Peter, Paul and Mary) As I've aged and gotten grayer, my hair actually looks blond now and people think I have it colored but it's all natural…glad that I can maintain a "low maintenance" life style. Good question about the meds…I suspect that a lot of the chemicals used in perms and hair dyes are not the best thing for you but have no experience i\with adverse med effects.

NewSong53 2015-01-29 06:22:06 -0600 Report

I get the same thing . . . I have highlights put in my hair 2 x year but my natural silver blends in. Even when most of it has grown out, people ask if I've just colored my hair. Some days it's shinier than others, I guess. I take Biotin to help with hair loss. Used to use a lot of hairspray — until very recently — and thought some of the thinning might be from all the lacquer on the top of my head where I sprayed the most. Probably just hormonal.

suecsdy 2015-01-29 07:57:58 -0600 Report

Thyroid issues can make your hair fall out. What do your eyebrows look like? Thinning on the outer edge of the brows is a symptom of thyroid and thyroid can also contribute to diabetes. I have very faint eyebrows unless I paint them on.

NewSong53 2015-02-01 06:30:57 -0600 Report

I had no idea, but I do have that problem. Have always had thinnish brows but it seems to be worse now, probably because they are graying as well. My doctor checks my thyroid and it's always in the normal range. I worked with someone whose thyroid had stopped functioning and she said she had to be on meds the rest of her life. Her hair was very thick, I guess from the meds. And she was very tiny, but probably ate very little.

Pegsy 2015-01-31 12:17:50 -0600 Report

My eyebrows are very fair and don't show much. I discovered a mascara for brows. I love it! It looks very natural. I hated the look of drawn on brows and I could never get them the same.

Pegsy 2015-01-31 15:18:40 -0600 Report

The one I am using now is called Simply Beautiful Brow Tint and I bought it from I have another one here that I haven't used yet called Color My Brows. It is much less expensive but also smaller. They are applied just like mascara to your lashes but they are not as thick and look very natural in my opinion. There are several others available on of varying prices. I have not found them in any of the local stores.

suecsdy 2015-01-31 18:37:21 -0600 Report

I didn't think to look on Amazon…I've just been checking the local stores..I did find a few things, but I'm still looking. Thanks

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