Not happy about this...oysters and diabetics....

Jibber Jabber
By Jibber Jabber Latest Reply 2015-02-01 05:31:16 -0600
Started 2015-01-27 22:16:06 -0600

37 replies

valentine lady
valentine lady 2015-01-29 04:56:51 -0600 Report

Hi Jib Jab
After reading all this and the fact that although raised on seafood
oysters was never in our diet. I've come to the conclusion I'll just past on them. I am to afraid of them now to try them. I do love most seafood. Oysters just isn't one I will partake.into. Nothing that potentially can cause that much trouble is worth it. :-(

srtasa
srtasa 2015-01-28 20:29:33 -0600 Report

one of my resolutions is to eat less grains and dairy. I am doing okay in cutting down on grains, but am having trouble with the dairy since I really do love the dairy. I have been able to cut it about in half. so i am making progress.

Type1Lou
Type1Lou 2015-01-28 14:36:40 -0600 Report

Here's an excerpt from a 2013 Huffington Post article about vibriosis, the infection that killed Darrel Dishon who was cited in hoaleboy's reply.

In December, Darrell Dishon became one of the approximately 15 people each year who succumb to vibriosis after eating raw oysters. Vibriosis is an incredibly rare disease — but Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data show that it’s getting more common.

“While all the other pathogens have shown a nice decline, the vibrios are about twice what it was since 1998. In a little over a decade, incidence has doubled. They’re still relatively small numbers — but it's a very striking increase,” leading vibrio researcher Glenn Morris of the University of Florida's Emerging Pathogens Institute told The Huffington Post.

Vibrio thrive in warm water. (That’s why the majority of cases happen in the summer, and why vibriosis is more closely associated with oysters from the Gulf of Mexico than from, say, the Pacific Northwest.) One widely publicized study published in July 2012 indicated that a 1-degree increase in the temperature of a body of water triples its vibrio population. For that reason, many scientists believe that climate change has contributed to the recent rise in vibriosis, and that it could make vibrio bacteria much more prevalent in coming years.

The entire article can be seen at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/07/vibr...

calayx
calayx 2015-01-29 01:55:52 -0600 Report

FYI
I'm a T 2 diabetic and also have non-alcoholic cirrhosis of the liver. I recently went to UCLA for three days of testing for the transplant program. I was told by all the medical team to not ever eat shellfish, of any kind, because of possible bacteria invading my body. So, goodbye lobster !

Jibber Jabber
Jibber Jabber 2015-01-28 10:38:42 -0600 Report

Oh crap…see now I am more confused than ever..haloboy posted a link to an article about a man who had his legs amputated and then died from a infection caused by oysters…so it can happen…yeah I will not eat them again…sad face…as diabetics we must be very careful..even more careful than others to avoid things like this because of the difficulties we have healing and fighting infections…sad face AGAIN!!!…and I was going to ask my hubby to pick some up at Restaurant depot today…whimper…and even though I seem to be the only one here who enjoys them…knowledge is power…and we never know who might run into this post a year or two or three from now…

Jim1954
Jim1954 2015-01-28 12:15:36 -0600 Report

I had to go look this one up because I will sit down and eat 1/2 or more of oysters. According to the FDA the reason ANYONE could get sick from eating raw oysters is a bacteria known as Vibrio vulnificus, and this bacteria is more harmful to people who have a form a diabetes and other complications such as liver disease, which is why there is always a sign stating "eating raw oysters can make you sick" (or something to that effect). Cooking kills this bacteria and makes them safe for anyone. Now as for me, I will not stop eating them or sushi because I'm more afraid of GMOs than a natural item. I do think things like this should be made aware so people can make their own decisions on what they want to eat.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2015-01-28 11:07:04 -0600 Report

So cook the boogers. My dad always liked oyster stew. It was a milk and butter based broth with cooked oysters. That was my dad's birthday dinner every year.

Jibber Jabber
Jibber Jabber 2015-01-28 11:19:50 -0600 Report

I do like them grilled…but it is much more of a hassle…love to just pop those things open and suck them down…yes I know..people find this gross…hee hee..

Type1Lou
Type1Lou 2015-01-28 10:18:17 -0600 Report

Remember that not all you read on the internet is by a credible source. If you recall, we had a "troll" a while back who touted herself as an "expert" in diabetes because she'd lived as a diabetic for 20 some years. Her advice was way off base, technophobic and just plain daft. (DC kicked her off the site because of some unethical blog practices.) While experience certainly provides insights, I would wish to know the qualifications of the person(s) making their claims…couldn't find that on the site you provided. IMO, not really credible. Also, many "credible" sources will have vastly differing opinions.

Jibber Jabber
Jibber Jabber 2015-01-28 10:26:23 -0600 Report

I understand that…I stopped eating oysters several mos ago because I had read this online and I figure it is better to be safe than sorry…It wasn't till I read it again in a couple other articles that I posted this…very sorry if it is bad information, but I really needed to post..because after reading it in several different places I felt a moral obligation…I am glad it is not true…

Gabby
GabbyPA 2015-01-28 11:05:07 -0600 Report

Don't know that it's bad information. There is always a thread of truth to things, sometimes it can just be very thin. Always better to err on the side of caution. There is probably some person that this happened to and to them it is paramount. I would rather be aware of a possible problem than oblivious.

Refined Ruffian
Refined Ruffian 2015-01-28 10:09:01 -0600 Report

I had my first appointment with my nutritionist this morning and she questions this statement. She was very comfortable with me including seafood, including oysters, as part of my new diet.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2015-01-28 08:46:37 -0600 Report

Well, when an article calls SEA food....seefood and the odd way of an infection passing from our stomach to cause an amputation....I don't know. Pardon the pun, but sounds a little fishy to me. However, I don't need an excuse not to eat raw oysters....they give me the creeps. LOL

Jibber Jabber
Jibber Jabber 2015-01-28 10:28:23 -0600 Report

very funny…you managed to make me laugh, which is no small feat considering I just read the post about the racist remark…seems I alone have a love of raw oysters…which is fine by me…I shall eat them all…and they are everywhere down here..oysters and crawfish…

rock47
rock47 2015-01-28 08:42:08 -0600 Report

Wow…this article is heavy…last Wednesday, a week ago, we went to a seafood place in Greensboro and my brother, who is not diabetic, had a roast of oysters, steamed and cracked. I had six of his, and loved them!!! I don't eat them raw, but I eat oysters, in every other way, often, with no side effects.

suecsdy
suecsdy 2015-01-28 07:05:25 -0600 Report

Even before I was dx, I didn't have trouble healing. If I did, I might have been dx sooner. And I am not prone to catching a lot of "bugs". My current issues are not a result of infection, so I would have to disagree with this article. I like seafood, but fish,not so much.

DrJohn
DrJohn 2015-01-28 06:48:30 -0600 Report

The article is completely wrong. First of all there is no such thing as a "diabetic" there is a type 1 diabetic and a type 2 diabetic. They are completely different and have completely different treatment plans. Second of all, the rest of the article was just plain hogwash.

Jibber Jabber
Jibber Jabber 2015-01-28 10:49:55 -0600 Report

To a certain point I agree…but we all know that many type 2's end up insulin dependent because their diabetes progressed to a point where it is necessary…so to say the treatment plans are completely different isn't exactly accurate…Insulin and diet management are part of BOTH treatment plans…

haoleboy
haoleboy 2015-01-28 10:09:36 -0600 Report

Better tell "Diabetic" Connect to change their name then
Also let the family of Darrel Dishon know. He was a "diabetic" that had both legs amputated and subsequently died from an infection from eating raw oysters …
http://bit.ly/1LhzUju

Jibber Jabber
Jibber Jabber 2015-01-28 10:30:48 -0600 Report

wow..so there is a connection…I get so confused sometimes…so much contrary information…and I am NOT a dumb chicky by any stretch…really makes you wonder..and haoleboy can you please resubmit this at the top as an answer and NOT as a response to someone else's answer…I am afraid someone might miss it all the way down here..

Jibber Jabber
Jibber Jabber 2015-01-28 07:58:14 -0600 Report

Glad to hear it…but it seems as though I am the only one left in the universe that loves oysters…lmao

Cherokeemaiden
Cherokeemaiden 2015-01-28 09:08:54 -0600 Report

No you're not, I love oysters any way you fix them, but my most favorite way is fried. I even like them raw with crackers & dab of hot sauce. I haven't seen the article that everyone is talking about. Where do I find it? If I have to give up seafood & oysters too, forget it !!! lol

Jibber Jabber
Jibber Jabber 2015-01-28 10:43:26 -0600 Report

please read the link haloboy posted..I read thatit was unwise to eatany oysters..but eating them raw posed the greatest risk..

rhett t
rhett t 2015-01-28 06:06:26 -0600 Report

not a problem with me. I don't eat oysters anyway. Don't want anything that slides down my throat! raw or cooked

jayabee52
jayabee52 2015-01-27 22:33:28 -0600 Report

Howdy Jib Jab
Thanks for sharing that info.
However the liklihood that I would eat oysters raw is very small. Heck, I rarely eat anything from the water. I have a bag of frozen pink salmon that I have not touched since I put it in my freezer over a month ago.

I guess it comes from being raised on the farm and not eating much in the way of fish growing up

God's best to you

James

Jibber Jabber
Jibber Jabber 2015-01-27 22:57:12 -0600 Report

I love raw oysters…sad face…use to eat them by the dozen..a little lemon..a splash of hot sauce…

Type1Lou
Type1Lou 2015-01-28 10:10:40 -0600 Report

Most seafood, by itself, has very low or no carbs. Oysters do have some. My carb guide says that 6 medium raw farmed Eastern oysters have 5 grams of carb while the wild have only 3 grams. It lists 6 medium Pacific raw oysters as having 15 grams…since I live on the east coast, I think I've only eaten the Eastern variety.

Jibber Jabber
Jibber Jabber 2015-01-28 14:45:07 -0600 Report

carbs be damned…if I am convinced they are safe I will eat them…with just a side salad or some steamed spinach…but I will eat them…(evil grin)

RosalieM
RosalieM 2015-01-28 05:34:11 -0600 Report

I have never had an oyster cooked or raw. I would question that article though, it was full of errors. Some spelling errors like mine, but other nutritional errors too. I question that diabetics immune systems are weak and diabetics shouldn't eat red meat because somebody at Harvard says it causes heat disease.
Diabetic drugs cause heart disease. That is the old cholesterol thing so they can justify giving every diabetic statins whether they need them or not.. (that was in one of the links.). If that were true I should have been dead along. time ago. The immune system may be weak when blood sugar is out of control, however when blood sugar is under control, immune systems fires up again. That has been my experience at least..

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