Diabetes and Arthritis

By BreC Latest Reply 2015-02-01 10:08:53 -0600
Started 2015-01-11 11:41:32 -0600

It has been cold and wet here off and on since November. Yards are mushy from so much rain. With all the cold and rain, most will eventually get a visit from the ritis brothers. I already feel their presence in my back, knees, and neck. Read an article that stated people with diagnosed diabetes are nearly twice as likely to have arthritis, indicating a diabetes-arthritis connection. That certainly has a ring of truth with me. I use warm compresses and take Aleve. My pcp and spine specialist bot have said that Aleve is an arthritis medicine and have me taking at least 1 a day and more if needed. How do you deal with arthritis.

28 replies

moni_now 2015-02-01 09:56:19 -0600 Report

Hi BreC, I hear you when you mention the cold and dampness. My body has been an aching field. I had always been told that Ibrophfen was okay to take but at my last regular doc. appt. (after reviewing the lab work where my AC1 had gone from 6.5 to 7.8) my doc. referred me to orthopaedic specialist. My pain had become chronic for 4 months in my right knee. I can only say I should have gone much sooner. I'd literally been eating ibroprofen. It wasn't helping and I was developing stomach problems. Xrays showed the extent of my osteoarthritis. I was given a cortisone shot and next Tues. I begin physical therapy to strengthen my legs. (I'd gotten to the point that I wasn't walking correctly at all and this was causing hip and back pain as well as the knee.) Anyway, if you get to the point where the pain meds you are taking isn't helping at all, please tell your doctor and ask for a referral to have it checked out by a bone and joint specialist. I can't tell you the difference that one cortisone shot made to help me get back on the road to recovery and to get my BG back under control. Pain can elevate BG and slow your movements so that you aren't getting enough exercise. I've got enough going on with diabetes management without having to deal with arthritis. Another thing is weight and I know that's a nasty word, but I was told for every pound overweight that we are there are 4 to 6 pounds of pressure on our load bearing joints. In my case that means there are hundreds of pounds of pressure on my knees that really shouldn't be there so I'm working on that, too. My plan includes that by this time next year I can be within my goal weight and it will take the year I'm sure. All this is the reason I just joined Diabetic Connect. I know I can't do this alone…

suecsdy 2015-01-25 07:42:23 -0600 Report

Be aware that nsaids can cause damage to the kidneys with long term use. I am no longer allowed to take them because of recent issues with kidney function. Bummer, since ibuprofen was my painkiller of choice. Right now my only option is Tylenol and it doesn't work that well for me unless it's hydrocodone or the pm mix with benadryl. One makes me slightly loopy and the other will put me out. At least I get some sleep with the latter. Aspercream and other rubs seem to help with joint pain and some other aches though. Used them recently when I got a vaccination that went into the muscle and was really hurting.(Still feels bruised, but the lump is finally gone.)

BreC 2015-01-15 14:34:45 -0600 Report

My husband swears by solstice. He thinks it's an end all, cure all. LOL. When he has an ache, he will slather it on and wrap the area in a warm cloth. It's ok, but I hate the smell. It doesn't seem to work for me but if he thinks it works for him, that's great.

Berna2223 2015-01-15 14:08:02 -0600 Report

I've taken Aleve and it hasn't done a thing for me. I can't take asprin as I have an allergy to it. Do you do anything else that might help me?

Kwenkwelut 2015-01-13 15:34:07 -0600 Report

I've had arthritis in my spine, hands, neck, hips and knees for years. I was on a medicine thats been taken off the market. Aleve does nothing to help me. Since I'm learning more about my traditional medicines, I take devils club leaves (crushed) and horsetail - brewed with my morning coffee. Keeps my old bones moving. Occasionally, I'll also have a shot combined with dandelion root and few other natural meds to give me greater relief, especially for lowerback and knees.

NewSong53 2015-01-15 04:25:39 -0600 Report

I just started drinking horsetail tea. Can you taste it in your coffee? How about the devils club leaves (and where do you get them)? I read that horsetail is good for the bones, as well as a lot of other things. How long have you been drinking these?

BreC 2015-01-12 20:09:59 -0600 Report

Aleve Vs Ibuprofen
If you’ve got a serious headache and other body pains then one of the quickest solutions is to resort to the use of pain killers. In this connection, there are many types of pain relievers being circulated in the market today. Aleve and Ibuprofen, although two dissimilar medications, are used for almost the same range of purposes ‘“ pain alleviation or reduction.
Foremost, Aleve is actually a popular brand name of the chemical compound Naproxen while Ibuprofen is just a generic name which serves as the chemical compound used in popular Ibuprofen brands like Advil and Motrin.
Ibuprofen is classified as one of the drugs belonging to the NSAID group or non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs. It acts by stopping the released prostaglandins that are made available because of an existing injury or inflammatory response and also inhibits the actual release of prostaglandin. Because of its mechanism of action, it thereby helps in decreasing overall inflammation, pain and even controls fever. It can be bought as an over the counter drug with preparation usually at 200mg and 400mg. Other stronger doses are available but on a prescription basis.
Aleve, a Naproxen Sodium drug, is another NSAID that is usually taken by arthritis patients. Aside from this, Aleve is also used as an OTC medication to relieve standard pain symptoms of menstrual cramping, migrant headaches and other forms of aches.
The two drugs as NSAIDS share the same disadvantage of increasing one’s risk for heart attack and stroke, if used all too frequently. The two can also induce gastric (stomach) bleeding because of their irritating chemical properties. Nevertheless, Aleve is thought to induce drowsiness and constipation among its users.
With regard to the length of therapeutic drug action, Naproxen (Aleve) seems to be the winner. Given almost the same dosing of Ibuprofen and Aleve, the effect of the latter lasts quite longer (8-12 hours) compared to the former (4-8 hours).
Although this is a pretty much subjective claim, many would agree that Aleve or Naproxen drugs have better pain killing effects most especially if you look it on a per dose basis. Aleve 375 mg may have a longer and more powerful effect than a 400mg Ibuprofen.
Aleve is a brand name while Ibuprofen is a generic name.
Aleve’s effects last longer compared to Ibuprofen’s.
Ibuprofen is said to induce more gastric irritation compared to Aleve.
Aleve is primarily used for arthritic pains unlike Ibuprofen

PeggySue1234 2015-01-12 16:47:16 -0600 Report

I use Blue Emu topical cream on my various arthritic areas, neck, shoulder, back and knees. If real bad on any given day I use Aleve. I try not to use either unless I really hurting more than usual.

GabbyPA 2015-01-12 14:03:42 -0600 Report

To deal with it I take Aleve. It does help. To help prevent it from getting worse, I take turmeric powder and avoid wheat products. That helps me immensely. I can tell when I get lazy and don't take it. Also keeping myself moving. Sitting too long takes a toll on me pretty badly, so I try to get up frequently from my desk.

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HMS Sparky 2015-01-12 08:14:50 -0600 Report

I had arthritis long before T2 reared its ugly head! Cortisone pills will help lubricate your joints. Personally, I have had 3 joint replacements in 10 years - both knees & 1 shoulder - and I couldn't be happier about the range of motion & pain relief. My doctor feels that I will probably have problems with all my other joints, including my back, so we'll see how it goes. And yes, Aleve has helped with my pain. I did take Vicodin for years, but managed to wean myself off it, & now the Aleve works wonders!

lilleyheidi 2015-01-12 01:07:27 -0600 Report

Silly question… what is the difference between Ibuprofen and Aleve? I take 800 mg ibuprofen up to 3 times a day as needed for arthritis, per my PCP, and I get some relief, but not as much as I'd like. Is Aleve that much better? Thanks in advance. Heidi

moni_now 2015-02-01 10:08:53 -0600 Report

That's what my regular doctor first told me to take but finally he referred me to an orthopaedic specialist… I'm just beginning my treatment with him but he gave me a cortisone shot which greatly relieved the pain so that at least I can walk upright now. Physical therapy begins next week. We'll see what happens next… it's a never ending journey…

RosalieM 2015-01-11 16:13:46 -0600 Report

I only detect it in my hands. As long as I stay fit no problem. If I get sedentary,
Art comes to visit.

BreC 2015-01-11 15:26:10 -0600 Report

I have a transitional vertebrae in my back which means basically that one vertebrae didn't develop right and I should be an inch or two taller. I also have spurs and that is arthritis. I have slight sclerosis of the spine to the right. And have a protruding disc and many bulging disc. I was advised to never go to a chiropractor because it could cause more harm than good. I am supposed to wear a back brace at all times but don't wear it like I should.

Berna2223 2015-01-15 14:23:48 -0600 Report

I had back surgery ( L4- L5) in "06". I hurt my right leg in "74". and was told then that I'd get "art" somewhere down the line. Well I have been in pain 24/7 since Aug of "05". I don't take pain meds unless I have to. How do u get through the pain. Some times I just want to throw the towel in. Any advice??

RosalieM 2015-01-11 16:17:57 -0600 Report

I have scoliosis, stenosis and rods and screws in my back and my neck is out of whack. As long as I keep my back muscles strong by doing weight machines and swim laps, no pain at all. It is hard for me to believe too as I am already old.

NewSong53 2015-01-11 14:43:25 -0600 Report

Thanks for starting this discussion! I have both RA and osteoarthritis and normally take 2 Aleve in the a.m. to keep swelling and pain away. One Aleve isn't quite enough in the winter time. On days when I "torque" my lower back (like I did last weekend) I take 2 twice a day, but never more than for a week. I was in a lot of lower back pain after bending at my side to put clothes into a front-loading washer last weekend. Had 2 visits to the chiro but still lots of pain. They said ice, but I read on the internet yesterday that ice is more for the initial injury and that heat brings more relief after the first 24 hours or so. This morning a friend suggested Icy Hot and — whoa, mama! Instant relief! I've been cooking, light cleaning and straightening up (in moderation) and have no pain! I think it relaxed those spasming muscles enough and this is what provided relief. I'm writing this in my diary so I don't forget next time!!

BreC 2015-01-11 18:58:46 -0600 Report

My back spasms too. Most anything can get mine started, from showering to washing dishes. I usually push through the pain. I can't just sit around and get stiff though.

suecsdy 2015-01-11 13:04:43 -0600 Report

When I was working on my feet 8-10 hrs a day occassionally my knees would get to hurting . A co-worker told me when her husband was having joint problems caused by rheumatoid arthritis, he would take a product called MSM. it's available at the grocery store in the section with vitamins etc. I tried it and it works. I wonder if it would work for this back problem.

NewSong53 2015-01-11 14:48:04 -0600 Report

I've tried MSM before and it does seem to help. But for some reason I experienced anxiety and depression after a couple of weeks so had to quit. Also, I had the weirdest dreams — in technicolor. I've never dreamt in color before (usually grey and dark scenes) but I was seeing gold and vivid reds!!

NewSong53 2015-01-11 14:47:00 -0600 Report

I've tried MSM before and it does seem to help. But for some reason I experienced anxiety and depression after a couple of weeks so had to quit. Also, I had the weirdest dreams — in technicolor. I've never dreamt in color before (usually grey and dark scenes) but I was seeing gold and vivid reds!!

NewSong53 2015-01-11 14:46:48 -0600 Report

I've tried MSM before and it does seem to help. But for some reason I experienced anxiety and depression after a couple of weeks so had to quit. Also, I had the weirdest dreams — in technicolor. I've never dreamt in color before (usually grey and dark scenes) but I was seeing gold and vivid reds!!

elizag1 2015-01-11 13:04:05 -0600 Report

I think walking helps me alot, I try to walk, if not outdoors at the store, going up and down all the aisles. Tumeric with warm almond milk and cinnamon helps too, you can add splenda or the sweetner you like..it is good at bedtime too.
Space heater helps too. I don't use any pain pills at all. Hope you get to
feeling better soon, it is winter so it is hard to say this but: enjoy the season.

NewSong53 2015-01-11 14:51:31 -0600 Report

Do you use tumeric capsules? How much do you take? I've heard tumeric is so good for RA and am all for natural remedies.

elizag1 2015-01-11 15:02:01 -0600 Report

I just use the powder, mccormick ground tumeric, it does not taste good so, sweetner is needed..use as much as you want.

Kats49 2015-01-11 12:21:02 -0600 Report

I found a strong correlation between my arthritis and diabetes. I started with Joint issues at age 11. When I was in my 40's my then newly met knee surgeon told me I had knees of an 80 year old.I have had multiple surgeries. Two years ago my spine started to degenerate as well. I was in so much pain I was ready to have the back surgery I had been avoiding since 1976. They had me on the table…I started to bleed vascularly… stopped the surgery. To me, however, that was a intervention from God. It was my knees again, that kept popping me down on the floor…after pleading to get someone to re look at the knee…they discovered I had no patella tendon…loose somewhere in the artificial knee. Got back to my Chiropractor, kept praying…discovered that essential oils actually work on me. I use food grade lavender and mix it with peppermint. You have to be careful where you buy your oils. I use a carrier oil like coconut to mix up my combo. I use it anytime I need pain relief.
I also have 200K Arnica Montana on hand, if the pain is unbearable ..works pretty quick now. and I swim three days a week. I take a Tai Chi class twice a week. Research Tai chi…many eastern disciplines have valid use with our Western medicine. I am on a fixed income and I can safely say I actually save money using natural aids rather than the other junk. I take enough pills for my heart. And I take fish oil daily as a supplement…along with Vit. D. When a person is low on D, they have studies that prove there is inflammation in the body. I slug down a tablespoon of food grade Turmeric each morning. followed with plain water. i was recently in the hospital with my asthma. i used the lavender oil to calm me…and every time anyone came into the room they were always in a good mood. Another plus!! I stopped using warm compresses because ice works better for me…warm compresses open up the blood vessels ice takes down the swelling and once the swelling is gone the pain leaves. RICE…rest ice compression elevate. God bless you. Education is power