Oral Medications

By handmashed Latest Reply 2015-01-07 12:15:38 -0600
Started 2015-01-04 21:29:11 -0600

Hi Friends,
As I have told I am on a journey to loose weight and push back this metabolic disease! Since October, when I found out I have lost 30 pounds thru diet and exercise!! Being new to the whole "diet" thing, I started with a nutritionist, and we decided that I would be most successful with a low carb approach.
In an effort to target belly fat, I recently started taking an OTC called AB CUTS, which I read about in Prevention Magazine. First thing everyone asks, does it work? Yes it seems to work. (NICE EH??) Unfortunately, there are some unexpected things happening. My husband, who is also taking the ab cuts, has had terrible indigestion…and my morning blood sugars have increased nearly 10 points. I was wondering if anyone else has had this experience, and what your course of action was?
I am looking forward to hearing about your experiences, and wonder if anyone has had good results with any of the special supplements for weight loss and blood sugar control.
Thank you,

22 replies

rhett t
rhett t 2015-01-06 09:51:18 -0600 Report

hey handmashed, I wanted to do something like you and my dr. had a fit. She said absolutely not. It will shoot my sugar up and no telling what else. I have just started really watching what I eat and how much and I'm down 20 lbs already. Eating a lot of chicken and fish and not eating out like we did

handmashed 2015-01-05 11:59:10 -0600 Report

WOW~ Let's all take a deep breath!
I am under very careful guidance of a doctor, and I actually work professionally in the medical field. When I approached the ab cuts topic with my provider, she said to go ahead and try the ab cuts…didn't seem like it could hurt me. We did review the NYU study, and were aware that there might be a risk that my BG "might" be elevated, but were not clear by how much since that study did not indicate any details.
I am on a very committed exercise regimen. In fact, I treadmill 4 miles each morning, (OR 70 minutes..whichever is longer) and my pedometer reading is generally 11-13,000 steps each day. I have also begun some light resistance training. But smooth and gentle movement is the rule, since I have osteoporosis due to a history of chemotherapy.
All of my dedicated effort to maintain a very low carb diet, and the patient care of my medical provider is paying off!! BUT like any woman, as my body begins to take a more attractive shape… I wanted to try the ab cuts formula to try and target belly fat!! I am confident that my overall weight loss is very satisfactory, and have no plan to abandon a working effort, relax. I was just looking to target a problem area.
Frankly speaking, I take Tramadol as a prn for pain management. It has been reported to have a side effect of decreasing bg. In my case, that never happened. Therefore, my provider and I did not feel that the CLA would likely have much of an effect on me either.
Please, try not to be so harsh with me. Something I think we all do when we either don't have enough information or worry that careful consideration has been bypassed.

Thanks again,

haoleboy 2015-01-05 13:58:07 -0600 Report

my apologies if my comments offended you.

Perhaps the study you should look at is this one done in Ireland: http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/80/4/887.full

I would be really interested in the correlation between not experiencing a decrease in BGL after tramadol and CLA's potential effect.

If interested here's an intersting take on targeted fat loss:http://www.yalescientific.org/2011/04/targete...


handmashed 2015-01-06 00:23:24 -0600 Report

Hi Steve, I read the article which you posted…strange that doctors don't utilize research from other countries. The only document my doc's used was the NYU study which only indicated it "might" raise my BG and did not offer any data as to how much. Like I said, I took it for only a few days… it has been d/c from my meds. So much for getting in a big hurry to have a flat tummy.
Just good to know that Costco will take back this product and give me a full refund. YAY!!
thanks again,

haoleboy 2015-01-06 10:49:55 -0600 Report

I understand the desire for quick results … I have tried many different thing that others consider strange or even dangerous to attempt to improve my health.
I applaud your efforts to "get healthy".
BTW the best thing I have found for sculpting abs are crunches and planking.


handmashed 2015-01-05 15:22:39 -0600 Report

I must be talking in circles again…
The "working effort" that I refer to is the diet and exercise. That effort is doing the job! I just wanted to target belly fat… and my medical provider gave the ok. That was last Wednesday. Since I started the ab cuts, my bg is up 22 points in the am. NOT GOOD!! I sent an email to the doc and we are going to dc that otc. I was just curious if anyone had tried the cinnamon supplements or the chromium p.
As a breast cancer survivor, I am very careful to discuss any and all changes to my med's with my doctor. I was only curious about the experience of many others.
~feeling so persecuted. ugh

haoleboy 2015-01-06 10:43:24 -0600 Report

I used a tablespoon of cinnamon every day for well over a year and not convinced it did anything to help (but i do love the taste). Several studies have suggested that 0.5 - 1 teaspoon of cinnamon daily MAY lower postprandial numbers in poorly controlled type 2's. Can it help? Maybe. Can it hurt? Not in amounts that small.
Never tried Chromium Picolinate.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2015-01-06 21:51:44 -0600 Report

I did it for a month and not one thing changed. Each person is different. It might work for some and not at all for others.

Jibber Jabber
Jibber Jabber 2015-01-06 07:11:54 -0600 Report

One of the first things I added to my diet after being diagnosed was a cinnamon/chromium supplement..I added it before I figured out what my dietary approach to D was going to be…I also sprinkle fresh cinnamon on any food that I think it would be yummy on..I guess I will never know exactly how much it has brang down my glucose levels…BUT I ran out about a month after diagnosis…and didn't make it a priority to stock more in the house..about 4 or 5 days after I stopped I noticed a rise in my levels on a consistent basis…it could of been anything…diabetes is like a out of control child…and I didn't immediately connect it with my stopping my C/Ch supplements..until I started taking it again and noticed my levels go back down..I hope that helps..

lilleyheidi 2015-01-06 00:01:36 -0600 Report

please know I was not judging or persecuting you at all. You are right a jump of 22 points is not good at all, that is why I suggested you get off the ab cuts and call your doc as soon as possible to discuss why the jump.
I've tried cinnamon. I take a teaspoon daily in my first morning coffee, and a teaspoon in my yogurt in the morning. I honestly do not know if it affects my BG. I think probably not. I drop low regardless of using cinnamon every morning 2-3 hours after breakfast. We have just reduced my insulin again. i have been doing cinnamon in my coffee for years simply because I enjoy the flavor. It certainly shouldn't hurt you. Best of health to you. HUGS, Heidi

Jibber Jabber
Jibber Jabber 2015-01-05 13:15:25 -0600 Report

I didn't mean to come off as harsh…I apologize if I did…it is just that I, as I am sure, others here are concerned…we all know that doctors and nutritionist sometimes approve things that end up in the long run not being good for us…again I do apologize if I came on too strong..

jayabee52 2015-01-05 12:19:29 -0600 Report

Howdy Debs
As someone who works professionally in the medical field, one thing that i learned as a Certified Nurse aide (a "paraprofessional") was that there is no such thing as "spot reduction" of fat. So in reality the taking of Ab Cuts is not really doing what you intend it to do. I get it that you don't wish to "abandon a working effort"

All I can pray that your efforts will be blessed by success.

Jibber Jabber
Jibber Jabber 2015-01-05 08:35:38 -0600 Report

With all due respect..why the weight loss drug…if you are going low carb..your body will naturally burn fat…and as you lose weight.(God willing)..your diabetes will improve..I also see no mention of exercise…I realize that doesn't mean you are not exercising BUT you seem to be focused on this weight loss drug..I have become a firm believer in natural healing…letting the body correct itself through activity and proper diet..I have seen the wonders it can do..Please talk to your doctor about this supplement and please at least try to loose the natural way…EVERYTHING we put into our bodies has consequences…everything..

GabbyPA 2015-01-05 08:31:29 -0600 Report

Others have explained to talk to your doctor and you may want to do that. But I have found that my pharmacist knows way more about interactions that my doctor does. So if I have questions like that, I will often speak to her first. She has been so very helpful in that way.

RebDee 2015-01-05 04:57:20 -0600 Report

I had a terrible time with oral medications for Diabetics until I discovered that most of them contained sulfa drugs (I am allergic). Therefore, I went on insulin and then started using the insulin pump, which I loved until I had bariatric surgery and no longer needed insulin at all.

lilleyheidi 2015-01-05 00:14:39 -0600 Report

Why did you choose AbCuts? What was wrong with just doing diet and exercise if you had lost 30 lbs on low carb. I'm not trying to pass judgement, but that seems like a great weight loss, and I wouldn't want to mess with that success to risk high BG levels. Please talk to your doctor as soon as possible, and discontinue the AbCuts. Best of health to you HUGS Heidi

jayabee52 2015-01-04 23:15:22 -0600 Report

Howdy Deb

Yes AbCuts may work, but as Steve mentioned that product contains CLA (conjugated linoleic acid) and would seem to be contraindicated in your case (and also in your hubby's as well)

Joyce also makes an extremely valid point as well. I won't comment further except to urge you to read it carefully.

Yes AbCuts may work, but I believe that a low carb, high protein meal plan works better and has no nasty side effects.

Over 3 yrs ago I discovered I could go on a low carb high protein meal plan and I not only lost 65 lbs, I also achieved an A1c of 5.5%, maintained a BG (blood glucose) of 80 to 130 mg/dl and was able to discontinue my twice daily injections of NPH insulin. I developed a meal plan and wrote it up as a discussion here on DC. I share it freely with anyone who asks for it.

I didn't need any suppliments, just good old nutrition. In fact, the weight came off so quickly that I my pants were starting to fall down if I didn't have my belt cinched up on the last hole. And then I had to drill another hole into the belt since even the last hole wasn't tight enough. Eventually I had to add in some fat to my meal plan so I didn't get too skinny. Now even my "skinny jeans" are too loose. I travelled by plane to my fiancee` this Christmas and new years season. At the TSA check point I had to take off my belt. I had to hold up my skinny jeans with my hands so they didn't sag too far and drop around my ankles. So IMHO, suppliments like AbCut are an expensive waste of money. Better to modify one's lifestyle and eating plan. Less expensive too!

God's best to you and yours

James .

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2015-01-04 22:38:23 -0600 Report

This is a prime example of why you should first talk to your doctor BEFORE taking supplements. You don't know how they will react with your body. You may have loss the weight but you raised your blood sugar in the process. You haven't really gained anything.

I lost 70 lbs through diet and exercise the old fashioned way. Supplements are not always good for you since your really don't know what is in them. I read an article in a medical magazine that most supplements do not contain much of what is suppose to be contained in the pill or powder. It is like a juice company labeling a product as being 90% juice when it is actually 10 percent of juice and the rest are fillers.

Trying to lose weight quick fast and in a hurry does more harm than good because in the ads they tell you how fast you could possibly lose weight they don't tell you how to keep the weight off or to maintain your weight loss.

You and especially your husband should be calling the doctor first thing in the morning. There are also supplements on the market that can damage your liver, kidneys an pancreas. This is one of the reasons why I never take any kind of supplements. If you are on any medication prescribed by your doctor, he/she needs to know you decided to take this product. It could possibly counteract what the medicine is suppose to do.

handmashed 2015-01-06 17:09:31 -0600 Report

I had the doctors permission to try the Ab Cuts, I always consult my physician prior to any change in my med schedule. Since my experience with Oral Chemotherapy Medications, I am quite good at being clear about drugs.
No worries…

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2015-01-07 12:15:38 -0600 Report

My apologies but no where in your post did you say that you had discussed this with your doctor. This is why people responded in this manner. I am not at all worried. It is your health and you and only you are responsible for it. You have to do what works for you.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2015-01-07 12:15:06 -0600 Report

My apologies but no where in your post did you say that you had discussed this with your doctor. This is why people responded in this manner. I am not at all worried. It is your health and you and only you are responsible for it. You have to do what works for you.

haoleboy 2015-01-04 22:23:55 -0600 Report

"Ab Cuts" contains CLA (conjugated linoleic acid) which is suspected to increase blood glucose levels and one of the sude effects of CLA is the risk of developing type 2 diabetes … so I'm guessing this probably is not a good idea for a diabetic to be taking.
A good example why you should always consult your doctor before taking supplements.
In my experience there are no short cuts to sustainable weight / fat loss. Low carb diet and increased exercise got me from 325 pounds to 165 pounds.


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