D-Life slideshow: Flu Fact or Fiction?

jayabee52
By jayabee52 Latest Reply 2015-01-29 14:14:11 -0600
Started 2014-12-19 09:27:49 -0600

While this may be a controversial subject at points there is no denying that Flu and cold season is upon us. Often they are the subject of a great many misconceptions as well. Take a look at this slideshow from D-life and see what Dr. Seth Feltheimer, an associate attending physician, and Patricia Ciminera, nurse practitioner at New York-Presbyterian Hospital/Columbia University Medical Center, offer their insights and expertise on these sources of misery.

The slideshow starts here ~ http://www.dlife.com/dlife_media/diabetes_sli...;

When I went through this slideshow the first time I had some disagreements about certain things and I would expect you would too, and we can use those as a springboard for further discussion in the discussion portion of this posting.

Praying for improving health for us all

James


29 replies

trimmer19684
trimmer19684 2015-01-29 14:14:11 -0600 Report

the v.a. doesn't give me a choice. I have to get a flu shot every year because of heart problems. I have noticed when I get sick or have an infection my blood sugars do go up a good bit. I don't know if this is normal but it happens

Docjjb
Docjjb 2014-12-22 17:11:20 -0600 Report

I get a flu shot every year for many years now and have never had the flu. I can only side with the law of averages here but that's just me. All diabetics are unique and each case must decided on an individual basis.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2014-12-22 07:05:01 -0600 Report

The last time I took the flu shot was in 2009. I was married to my late wife "Jem" who had Lupis (SLE) and was immunocompromised by that. I decided to take the shot, though I hadn't taken one in quite a while previously as I thought I had a strong immune system.

After she passed I have not had a flu shot since as I had been reading about the thimerosal which is supposed to preserve the vaccine. One of the components of that preservative is mercury which is toxic ~ http://www.immunizationinfo.org/issues/thimer...

I have been urged to take the flu shot in my dialysis clinic but have declined to take it due to the presence of thimerosal in it.

I do eat healthy and do keep up with my Vit D which is said to keep the flu virus at bay. So far so good

Littlesister56
Littlesister56 2014-12-21 18:15:52 -0600 Report

I also get the Flu vaccine every yr, I am wondering if I will make it through this Winter without getting really sick. Just got over Bronchitis which started as a chest cold, and having Asthma didn't help and it just progressed. I got the Pneumonia vaccine last Dec. Have had the Flu twice in my life, last time was when my children were young, I took care of them and my husband who ran a fever for days, but I got it mildly. God was good to me that time. My son got it last yr, he was 28 and next thing I know he has a fever of a 103, I sat with him till I could get his temp down, and the doctor gave us both Tamiflu. Told me to take just in case. I have heart disease 7 stents, Asthma and diabetes so he didn't want me to take a chance, even though I had the Flu shot. If there is something that can help and or lessen the illness, it pays to do it.

BreC
BreC 2014-12-20 14:44:04 -0600 Report

I get the flu shot every year and the pneumonia shot every 5 years. I have so many medical issues that any slight prevention is a good thing for me.

tabby9146
tabby9146 2014-12-20 09:44:57 -0600 Report

I never get the flu shot. my choice. I have never had it and been very fortunate not to, but have had bad sinus infections many times that are just as bad, with fever, aches, severe congestion, extreme sore throat, etc.. I just try to stay away from anyone who is sick, wash hands frequently, and exercise daily, eat right most of the time, and take vitamins. I had the flu shot one time when I was first diagnosed, at the urging of my doctor. it was fine. some people claim they get sick from the flu shot. I was never sick. I just read so much about it and did some research and decided not to get it anymore.

lilleyheidi
lilleyheidi 2014-12-20 02:49:13 -0600 Report

I do get the flu shot every year, but I recently read that they jumped the gun this year and that the vaccine is not proving to be effective in something like 90% of the varieties of flu that are out this year, so there is a good liklihood that even with the vaccine those of us who did get the vaccine may still get the flu.
I've had the flu before and have to say it's not fun. I do all I can to stay healthy, stay away from sick people, use hand sanitizer, sanitzing wipes, and wash my hands frequently, but that doesn't stop it all. Nor does the vaccine. We just have to pray a lot. Best of health to all. HUGS, Heidi

jeopardy3
jeopardy3 2014-12-22 07:04:51 -0600 Report

I read the same thing here. It's just not working for this kind of flu this year. so many people have gotten the shot too but also got the flu. My husband has to fight it every year. he is faithful about those shots but I never get them. and guess what, he fights the flu every year. hmmm I thank God that I don't get it every time too!!!!! I am also a diabetic with Adision's disease too.

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-12-19 18:57:31 -0600 Report

Hi James,
I take the flu shot faithfully every year. I had pneumonia several years. ago which resulted from the flu. So I also take the pneumonia shot every 5 years. I haven't had either in years.. yes, I eat healthy and lead a healthy life because of the diabetes.
However, evenn though I wash my hands and take good carevof myself, my endocrinologist suggests all diabetics take the shots.

NewSong53
NewSong53 2014-12-28 08:08:24 -0600 Report

I get the flu shot every year as well (had pneumonia once which resulted from a lingering cold or bronchitis — can't remember which it was). There is always a strain of flu that isn't covered in the regular flu vaccine. Since I use public transportation and sick people insist on coming to work, I take it as insurance. I've never had a mild case of the flu — just the kind that dehydrates, that makes me ache terribly and where I'm unable to do anything for myself for two or three days. During flu season I always keep soup and over-the-counter meds on hand "just in case". If I don't take the shot, I always manage to get it.

NewSong53
NewSong53 2014-12-28 08:05:06 -0600 Report

I get the flu shot every year as well (had pneumonia once which resulted from a lingering cold or bronchitis — can't remember which it was). There is always a strain of flu that isn't covered in the regular flu vaccine. Since I use public transportation and sick people insist on coming to work, I take it as insurance. I've never had a mild case of the flu — just the kind that dehydrates, that makes me ache terribly and where I'm unable to do anything for myself for two or three days. During flu season I always keep soup and over-the-counter meds on hand "just in case". If I don't take the shot, I always manage to get it.

NewSong53
NewSong53 2014-12-28 08:04:28 -0600 Report

I get the flu shot every year as well (had pneumonia once which resulted from a lingering cold or bronchitis — can't remember which it was). There is always a strain of flu that isn't covered in the regular flu vaccine. Since I use public transportation and sick people insist on coming to work, I take it as insurance. I've never had a mild case of the flu — just the kind that dehydrates, that makes me ache terribly and where I'm unable to do anything for myself for two or three days. During flu season I always keep soup and over-the-counter meds on hand "just in case". If I don't take the shot, I always manage to get it.

NewSong53
NewSong53 2014-12-28 08:04:18 -0600 Report

I get the flu shot every year as well (had pneumonia once which resulted from a lingering cold or bronchitis — can't remember which it was). There is always a strain of flu that isn't covered in the regular flu vaccine. Since I use public transportation and sick people insist on coming to work, I take it as insurance. I've never had a mild case of the flu — just the kind that dehydrates, that makes me ache terribly and where I'm unable to do anything for myself for two or three days. During flu season I always keep soup and over-the-counter meds on hand "just in case". If I don't take the shot, I always manage to get it.

Fefe12
Fefe12 2014-12-19 18:44:47 -0600 Report

It can be a hard decision to make. I used to get a flu shot till someone put it in the wrong place. I was in therapy for 6 months, the pain was awful. So I've been scared off of flu shots. I had my mom get the shot as she was in her 80's. I felt that was important because of her age. I take good care of myself and believe in Oscillococcinum. I swear by it i haven't been sick in years while everyone around me gets ill.

Grandmama16
Grandmama16 2014-12-20 13:23:48 -0600 Report

I've never heard of getting the flu shot in the wrong place and causing pain. I got one this year by mistake. I had said no at the Drs and as the nurse was giving 1 of 4 she said this is the flu one…too late to stop. Then I was given the tetnus and whooping cough and I thought another pneumonia one (. Had one years ago) but now I get a bill for B12. Not sure what I got but didn't feel well for days. I like the Dr but so tired of being rushed through. She said my A1C of 7.4 was ok even tho up from 6.5. My numbers in the AM have been in the 120's or above. I take 2000 of Metformin. The only time my numbers are lower is if I don't eat.

Fefe12
Fefe12 2014-12-20 23:44:11 -0600 Report

Dear grandmama16, believe me I hadn't heard of it either. But it was very painful. I dont remember if the shot is suppose to not be in the muscle and that's where I got it or opposite. I just know I've been a bit scared since then. That was 6 months of my life, many sleepless nights, and lots of money for therapy. I will wait till I'm old to get the shot. Sorry to hear about your numbers, I've been blessed with an easy time. I'm on meds now instead of insulin. Tried to take metformin but it made me too sick. They told me to wait it out that it would go away but when I first found out I was a diabetic I had to have surgery I was too sick to spend time trying to wait it out I gave up. Have you talked to your doc about trying something new? I was told that things will change over time and not to depend on things staying the same. Maybe its time for a change. Check it out.

johio
johio 2014-12-19 18:24:12 -0600 Report

the usual info. I always get a flu shot and have not had the flu in years. I also had the pneumonia vacc.

Deaconess Jane
Deaconess Jane 2014-12-19 15:43:45 -0600 Report

I work at a hospital and thus am required to get a flu shot each year and a TB test. I don't mind. Too, since I'm older, our Dr recommends getting the flu shot each year. We started doing so following a year where everyone in the family got sick and we spent a couple of months trying to get well again.

Jibber Jabber
Jibber Jabber 2014-12-19 15:18:26 -0600 Report

I have never gotten the flu shot…I had the flu once about 20 years ago…and I am 46 years old…I wash my hands…immediately walk away from anyone that looks the slightest bit ill.especially if they are coughing or sneezing…and I always use sanitizing wipes on things like supermarket grocery carts or bathroom doors and I use them to flush the toilet if I need to use a public bathroom..and that is not often…

LRD
LRD 2014-12-19 14:42:16 -0600 Report

I take a flu shot every year. I also take a pneumonia shot every five years.

Kats49
Kats49 2014-12-19 14:35:26 -0600 Report

Since I have asthma, I get a flu shot. I had Pneumonia in 2001 so now I get a shot for that as well. Never have gotten the flu EVER but then again I eat mostly vegetarian, cook at home, wash hands frequently and even though I live with three little petri dishes I am still well. I do get colds that last about three days twice a year.

DawnieD
DawnieD 2014-12-19 14:31:14 -0600 Report

When my immune system gets low I am more prone to getting sick. Maybe it's psychological, but if I'm outside in the cold and not wearing a hat and warm clothing I tend to get sick. I can feel my internal thermometer dropping before I get a fever. And if I keep up or even increase my normal intake of Vit C (500mg bid) I think I stay healthier. Right now I add in an almost daily dose of EmergenC (not the same time I take Vit C).

haoleboy
haoleboy 2014-12-19 13:04:25 -0600 Report

no flu shots here … good hygiene and good nutrition have served me well all my adulthood

best wishes for whichever seasonal event(s) you choose to celebrate
Steve

jeopardy3
jeopardy3 2014-12-22 07:11:32 -0600 Report

I agree haoleboy. I never take them but my husband does and he use to get it every year. . he has also had pneumonia several times too. being a diabetic we eat a balanced diet (most of the time) with plenty of fresh fruits and veges and that is the best medicine!!

Gabby
GabbyPA 2014-12-19 14:36:30 -0600 Report

I agree. There are many things we can do to prevent contact with it, and when our immune system is healthy it usually can deal with it. I have not had a flu for over 8 years.

jeopardy3
jeopardy3 2014-12-19 12:41:02 -0600 Report

I do not take the flu shots and I never have and I never will!! being a diabetic, we eat healthy most of the time which includes fresh fruits and veges. they are just as good as any "shot"!!!! that shot puts the flu bug in your system and if you take it every year you are SUPPOSE to build up a resistance to it!! my husband faithfully gets that shot every year and every year he gets the worst case of the flu!! twice he ended up with the flu that went into pneumonia. the Dr. wanted to put him in the hospital cause it was so bad but he refused to go. so that meant I was getting up and down with him all night keeping him hydrated and giving him his meds. so his fever would go down. so in my opinion THOSE SHOTS ARE A WAIST OF TIME AND MONEY!!!! no thank you!!!!!!!!

RosalieM
RosalieM 2014-12-19 10:52:49 -0600 Report

didn't disagree with anything in the slide show. I think there is something missing. It is always missing from these kinds of discussions.
The missing information is the immune system. If your immune system is strong, you are a lot less likely to catch the flu, cold, or even cancer.
Cancer isn't caught like a cold but your immune system can prevent
cancer from getting a foothold in your body. Your immune system is made up of about 80% good bacteria and it mostly resides in your gut. Many people are sick now days because the bacteria that makes up their immune system is so screwed up by what they have eaten, what eats them and what is fed to the animals they eat. Antibiotics are fed to the cattle, pigs, chickens, turkeys etc. in their feed everyday. Along with chemicals
in processed foods, our good bacteria don't have a chance and neither does out immune system. So the bad bugs win. The good bugs can win if you want to help them out.

RebDee
RebDee 2014-12-19 10:35:01 -0600 Report

Yesterday I saw my Endocrinologist. She wanted to be sure that I had had my flu shot (YES), my pneumonia shot (NO), and especially if I had had chicken pox, my shot to avoid shingles (NO), So she told my primary care physician and now I have to have those two shots but of course not at the same time. She said especially those with Diabetes should have the shots.

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