THIS IS NOT WHY WE ARE ALL HERE!!!(names removed for ?)

By Jlynn Latest Reply 2009-07-15 14:51:53 -0500
Started 2009-05-21 08:16:34 -0500


There is so much good in the worst of us,
And so much bad in the best of us,
That it hardly behooves any of us
To talk about the rest of us.
Edward Wallis Hoch

2 months ago

I would like to write this message under "Discussions" but I might offend some. So I thought I would discuss this with my fellow type 1's instead. I realize not every person who is a t1 was dx'd as a small child but a lot of us were and even those who were not a small child may have a better understanding of this than anyone else.

I was dx'd …that’s probably old compared to a lot of the kids who are being dx'd these days. Anyway…I was so jealous of the t2's growing up. I would have given anything to take a pill and exercise to handle my diabetes but that wasn’t an option. I would hear t2's complaining and think "shut up you big babies! you have it so much easier. What are you complaining about?!?!" I think I have let this idea and attitude fester (that may just be a Texan slang so please forgive me if it is)in my mind since I was a kid and now it is just turning into an attitude. When I hear a T2 complain I think "do you not realize you are complaining about having to take pills while little kids are being told that for the rest of their lives they will have to take shots?!" I got to where I considered T2's to be fake diabetics, real diabetics take insulin. I think I have at least got over that feeling or idea. But I do think too many t2's are complainers.

Ok I would like to know what the rest of you think or how you feel.

2 months ago
Have a great day!

2 months ago
They should walk a day in a t1's shoes…They would not complain ever again… Just my 2 cents
Have a wonderful day…

24 days ago
I agree. They need to walk a day in our shoes. They think they complain now, they wouldn't know how to handle a day in our shoes.

22 days ago
AMEN to that!!!!!

4 minutes ago
WOW..I have been away for awhile,and this is the first post I get when I logged back in…THIS IS VERY TROUBLING!!

Have you forgotten the entire purpose of this web site? It appears so..Let me help you all out..We are all here to help one another get through life more comfortable,supported by others w/ the same or similiar disease.It is here where we can reach out for advice and know how from others WHO CARE.Not JUDGE.OUR families can also come here to help to gain a better understanding and some encouragement from other familiy and friends of ours.


YOU ALL COULD BE DOING A POSITIVE THING WITH YOUR T1 KNOW-HOW..THIS IS NOT HELPING ANYONE, VENTING IS FINE..But Its not why we are here !!! To help ..Rather then do this about t-2's. Do you realize you can offer so much more like your knowledge and advice that only you T-1's can Remind them of the importance of certain things and yeah even mention you are jealous of them..I do Im sure they dont realize that people out there may envy their situation,,,Please just think about it…ID LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FOR YOU ALL …BUT IM HAVING A HARD TIME ADMITTING I WAS ON YOUR FRIENDS LIST …

75 replies

SHELBY 2009-07-15 14:35:41 -0500 Report

I just joined your site and I have what they say is type 2 but they are trying to keep me off shots because I begged the dr I told him that I could not give myself a shot I am perfect in the weight division I work full time and eat nothing but healthy foods I even teach dance to kids 4 nights a week adn chase my grandson on the weekend. So I do not think that you cause this yourself my dr explained that it is in your genes. Sorry if I offend anyone. By the way this is bad no matter what type. I have had to take time off from teaching dance because my chartiac enzimes are to high and he is affraid that I will have a heart attach. So I do not think either type is better than the other.

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-07-15 14:51:53 -0500 Report

So Sorry, Shelby! I too like to be informed, and YOU HAVE TO BE SURE of yourself in some areas, or uncaring Drs. (there are a few) will criticiZe you, saying that you arent that bad off, THEN all of a sudden, "Why did you wait so long before you tried harder to care for yourself??" When Drs and others belittle you, especially over the years—-your insides can get pretty ugly. You HAVE to have a site like this to compare, be reassured and educated, so that you can stand on your own two feet and persist on a better plan and understanding so you do not become a VICTIM!! I HATE that expression, like we arent trying to help ourselves""!!! Cheezzz, heck if you do, and heck if you don't, if you really let them get to you. That is why I recommend, BE STRONG AND FIGHT! Love to ALL! PAt Roth

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-07-15 14:10:27 -0500 Report

May I add that I was VERY self conscious about my diagnosis of Emotional Illness, Depression, so many riciculed me that things could be worse—so true but knowing that only made it WORSE! As I had already tried all of the cliches, Pray—-but if that does not help, then it just seems to enforce that you are a BAD person and not worthy of God's response. For me, I had to dig DEEP into my soul and dig out the basic reason I so hated myself, GRADUALLY I am learning to remember, then to accept who I really am—-So I can understand how bitter one can become over something that they feel that they do not deserve, it is not their fault, and those that say so, just aren't educated in that particular problem, NOR do they even want to know, they have their own battles, thank you!

When I first came on this site I was ashamed to admit that I had emotional problems, did not want to admit that I had a bad depression, BUT after reading others admit it and some of their own methods of trying to crawl out of it, I don't feel so ashamed! I am still too sensitive, but it is slowly easing up. Best Wishes to ALL friends! PR

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-07-15 14:14:40 -0500 Report

I suppose that my own emotional upset has tiggered my type 2 diabetis, but if it has, I do NOT want to hear it, I have tried too hard for too long to gain some peace of mind, I do not need any more guilt. PR

Amy Togtman
Amy Togtman 2009-05-29 18:12:42 -0500 Report

I am a T2 and i have been taking shots and oral meds since 2001 so I think alot of type 2's can relate to type 1's

Lanore 2009-05-29 20:35:23 -0500 Report

I think so too. It really doesn't have to be one or the other…we are all in this together. :-)

Anngelia 2009-05-31 22:07:32 -0500 Report

You say that your on shots and oral medications. Did you start out on both or just end up needing both? Or was it just that the oral meds didnt work as well as the doctor expected?

Lanore 2009-06-01 11:47:13 -0500 Report

Hi Anngelis,
I know you are asking Amy…but I was on pills for over 20 yrs and now have to take insulin four times a day because the pills just didn't do what they were suppose too. I am still T2 i just need insulin. Guess I know what it is like to be T1 now.

jazzdiva84 2009-07-10 17:25:26 -0500 Report

I do have to say I wish they were called something different. Most people know what type 2 diabetes is and most people have family members who are type 2. I have to constantly deal with people saying "can you eat this?" and not understanding the HUGE difference between 1's and 2's. I've had people tell me i'm wrong when I describe what a type 1 diabetic is because their grandpa is diabetic… ok well he is a type 2… but people can't seem to recognize a difference. It would be a lot less annoying and emotionally easier for type 1's if they were called 2 different things. like diabetic and insulin resistant for example… just a thought I've had every time I eat a piece of birthday cake (at my own damn birthday!) and before I take my first bite get told I shouldn't be eating that. Apparently they know more than I do about my own disease…

2009-07-10 17:45:08 -0500 Report

sister you're preaching to the choir! the other day i had lunch with an old co-worker. she about snatched the candy bar i had removed from my bag and was screeching "you can't eat that, you're a DIABETIC! do you have some kind of death wish?" we were at a busy crowded park. she embarressed the hell out of me. i told her very calmly that #1 yes i COULD have it. #2 i was of legal age and didn't need her help making food choices. and #3 if she EVER grabbed something out of my hand i was about to eat again she would pull back a bloody stump. god it pissed me off so much!

BLC 2009-07-10 17:59:54 -0500 Report

WOW! To me being diabetic should bring us all together. Type 1 or 2. None of us want this illness and the best we can do is support each other. Once a lady asked me how old I was when I was diagnosed. I told her I was 25. She had the audacity to say to me, "Well you'll get over it because you were diagnosed when you were older." Then she said, "My grandson will never recover from diabetes because he was diagnosed as a child. He's type 1," she snapped at me. I didn't bother to tell her I was also type 1. I just smiled and walked away.
This world needs to be better educated on diabetes!

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-07-15 14:02:25 -0500 Report

How true! Some folks are just born negative, but they can so hurt anyone!! After I simmer down, I try to tell myself that just because they say rude things does not make them true! Hugs, Pat Roth

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-07-15 13:59:58 -0500 Report

Amen!! So much hurt in all of these posts!! I ama T 2and just because I am asking questions and trying to educate myself in order to PREVENT worse side effects, does not mean that I think that I am worse than anyone else. But is your own soul is not at peace with this diagnosis, it really doesn't matter what anyone else says, as you so stongly FEEL differnetly! That is how I have felt about my DEPRESSION, you THINK that you are depressed?? Well, you should walk in my moccasins, but now that I have found new friends, that some can sympathize, and some criticize, it helps me to better understand that we all have sore spots, no one is really worse off than anyone else, you hurt so badly, you can't see how anyone else can possible understand or rip off the term Diabetic so lightly, Only it probably isn't meant to sound trivial, just that person's particular coping skill of trying to lighten up the discussion, the diagnosis, to get your spirits up and still fighting, no matter what the diagnosis is! Best Wishes to ALL, Pat Roth

Anngelia 2009-07-11 16:19:02 -0500 Report

It would make things so much more clear if there were 2 different names. I know T2s dont want to be diabetic any more than a T1 but the two are different. And it is annoying for the world to just assume you are one thing when your not.

2009-05-27 22:18:11 -0500 Report

When I was diagnosed in 1992, the doctor in rehab told me that, IT IS YOUR FAULT! Talk about a kick in the teeth. I started out on pills, but my depression hit bottom, and after about 2 months, I was put exclusively insulin and have been on it ever since. I drank my pancreas to death, pure and simple.

As for the Types being different, to me, they aren't. Both types have basically the same things to deal with. We all may be from different walks of life, but diabetes brings us all to a central meeting place. Having like minded people to relate to has helped me see there are all kinds of people out here with all kinds of suggestions for ALL types to live better lives, and that's what it is about, isn't it?

cyncyn 2009-05-27 22:45:58 -0500 Report

You have put it, very well. We all travel the same path, just at different paces. Some travel faster than others, but we are here together, and for each other.

Nana lott
Nana lott 2009-05-27 19:06:31 -0500 Report

My brother was diagnosed 1 year ago.(June27,2008) of tp2 diabetes, by the time he saw a Dr.,he had lost60lbs. had wholes in the roof of his mouth ,was thirsty all the time at night, and had gone fromm 20/20 vision to nearly blind in one month. I'm sure there were signs early on that he didn't realize? My brother passed away Feb.17th 2009! I would like to see this site be supportive and not judgmental. Be careful about who's life you think is worse.\, it could be someone you know and love. I hope this helps some of you to put things into perspective.

LadyDi - 26259Miller
LadyDi - 26259Miller 2009-05-27 19:33:20 -0500 Report

So sorry for your loss. It is so sad when we overlook or deny signs leading up to an illness/diagnosis. But don't we all do that at times? This is a good lesson. And your comments also point out so well that it really makes no difference in the overall scheme of things who has it "worse". As others have pointed out, it certainly is not a competition. May God continue to comfort you and your family.

Dietbeeties 2009-05-27 22:04:10 -0500 Report

Thank you for sharing..and so sorry for your families loss..I couldn't imagine. I hope everyone comes back and reads your comment. There is no room for judgement when we all are fighting for our lives.

Judimar 2009-05-27 23:44:06 -0500 Report

My heart goes out to you. Words can not express my sorrow. It's always hard to lose someone you love.



lois hutchins
lois hutchins 2009-05-29 19:11:11 -0500 Report

Nana lott
Sincere conolences
I lost my sister in 06 to diabetic complications, it hurt a lot (still does)
Please take care of you

John Crowley
John Crowley 2009-05-22 10:10:47 -0500 Report

As a site manager, these are the kinds of discussions that always make me hold my breath. It can be so easy for a discussion like this to spiral into even greater misunderstandings, hurtful accusations, and damage to the good that can be done by our site.

But I have to thank all of you for your mature and thoughtful approach to this issue. As others have already pointed out so well, it's pretty easy to look over the fence and think the "other type" has it easier—no matter which side of the fence you're on.

When we take the time to truly understand the issues and the challenges, we can do so much more to help each other. Neither type 1 or type 2 is an easy road. But with accurate information, the right treatment, and healthy support from good friends and family, the road can be made easier and more pleasant to travel.

Thanks, everyone!

cherryman 2009-05-22 03:19:37 -0500 Report

I am a type 2 no one else in my family is a diabetic. I did not cause my type of diabetes and I am sure many type 2;s have not. Just like type 1's Sure they tried me on meds. I am allergic to them all. So I am on insulin. I shoot up 4 to 6 times a day on novalog then once a night on lantus. I work with a type 1. She says although ours types are different, she sees very little difference between her and my treatment. And yes I whine. And yes I complain. And yes my feet are always giving me pain. and yes stairs hurt to walk up and down. And at fund raiser time when I walk with other type 2's and type 1's it seems to me that we are all trying to do one thing help stop this cursed disease. I read this article and I was stunned. I have not seen something like this on this website before. I do a lot more browsing than posting. So it is in my humble opinion that this post was meant to stir up the pot and cause emotional distress. Don't we all have enough of that right now. As a solo diabetic I have very little support so I have to turn to websites like these for help information and support. One of the things I enjoy about coming here is all that. This post is so out of place for this website I'm stunned to see it here. But i'm gonna tell you the bottom line right now. and here it is If you are a type 1 and don't take your insulin you will die and probably very early. If you are a type 2 and you do not take your insulin you will die probably very early. So guess what. Symptoms are different, but if you ignore your disease the results are the same DEATH. Wake up and realize type 1, type 2, prenatal, prediabetic we are all in this together and we all need each other to get through this. I defy any diabetic regardless of type to tell me that they have never had the feeling once in a while that they want to smash that darn meter. And when you do where do you go. Here. So lets show come compassion for each other and remember I like you whether you are a diabetic or not. I like you whether you are t type one or a type 2. I like you because you are here and trying to help me and yourself.

Nobody asked just my opinion!

alwaystryin 2009-05-21 23:00:05 -0500 Report

Now is THE TIME to explain one of the Magicall Concepts Mark and Patti have (as interpreted my ME and ME alone):

In this new World of …Global Diabetic Awareness…there are no longer any such thing as a "Type" as it relates to being Diabetic.

I feel so strong about this, and treasure my DC Fam so much, I JUST NOW started a new Blog about just this subject.

I will let my Writing's tell you how I feel:

Jlynn 2009-05-22 02:21:59 -0500 Report

You let you know how that turns out..Im not trying to ?? your research or passions for the "labels" Iam not now perfect or do I see a time in the future that I will be…as their are to many mistakes to be made in this WORLD and even more opinion as to whether I made them correctly or not!!Go is full of lessons to be learned and More teachers then any BUDGET/? allows..nite ..hope that works out well for you …

Melissa Dawn
Melissa Dawn 2009-05-21 22:30:34 -0500 Report

When you really look it over, did this post (posting the message for all to see) serve a purpose? I saw this message when it came into my inbox. I don't remember if I responded at all… I don't believe I did. I didn't read many of the responses either, but I read some. Some were positive about Type 2 diabetes. I don't see the positive messages posted here. I only see negative.

The person who wrote that message didn't want to hurt feelings. By posting it here, even without names, a controversy is being raised and I have to wonder at the reasoning behind it.

Are the attitudes reflected kind or fair? No. Still, posting them here isn't going to produce anything but hurt feelings and more resentment. I'm sure those who responded to that message bear no true ill will to anyone with or without this disease — they merely needed a chance to vent frustration over a disease that can frustrate us all.

Jlynn 2009-05-22 02:17:39 -0500 Report

well thats why I responded as I did..and know getting back on here after a month i was looking forward to the discussions etc. This was the first thing and thats all the posts I had but if you notice it is back dated…and ?

Melissa Dawn
Melissa Dawn 2009-05-22 08:38:23 -0500 Report

I do notice it is back dated — but there was more to the message than is shown here.

Also, I don't understand when you finish your sentences with and… ? I'm asking because I really would like to better understand what you are saying — what do you mean by that?

kdroberts 2009-05-22 07:29:02 -0500 Report

"Still, posting them here isn't going to produce anything but hurt feelings and more resentment."

I disagree. There will always be people who fuel fires or go off at the deep end but the issues raised by the original email that set it off are not uncommon and disturbing. They are also based on a complete misunderstanding of diabetes. The more these things get posted and the more people respond with facts rather than myths, old wives takes and general misinformation so people can get a better understanding about the different types the better in my opinion.

Sometimes I annoy people with my posts but I try to never post anything that isn't medically true. It makes me cringe when a type 2 who made enough lifestyle changes to be medication and insulin free tells a type 1 that they can do the same purely because they don't understand what type 1 is. Likewise, when a type 1 gives the old "you caused your diabetes, I didn't have a say in mine" line I want to slap them in the face because they have no concept of type 2 other than factually incorrect media reporting. People generally only learn about what directly impact them rather than broadening their understanding as a whole and that's where the problem lies. These types of discussions are rarely pretty but once you get past the hostility there are a good few things that people can learn and hopefully raise the understanding of diabetes in general.

Melissa Dawn
Melissa Dawn 2009-05-22 08:36:45 -0500 Report

I agree that its good to discuss the misunderstandings between the different types of diabetes. I struggle when I see the types of comments that you mentioned. I do feel that could have been done without posting a message that some people felt was private.

LadyDi - 26259Miller
LadyDi - 26259Miller 2009-05-22 09:01:21 -0500 Report

I've been staying out of this one, but I think KD makes a very good point about people becoming educated, etc. on the other hand, I also agree that it could have just been brought up in a discussion without posting someone's private correspondence, with or without mentioning names. The topic itself is a good one.

kdroberts 2009-05-22 09:29:34 -0500 Report

Regardless of how it's done, the comments you get will be the same. I've seen the same thing on multiple message boards many times in the past and the general comments are always the same.

Judimar 2009-05-22 16:35:45 -0500 Report


I have never found your posts annoying… insightful, yes.. informative, yes… annoying , definitely not. I enjoy reading your posts and am thankful that you seem to be one of the voices of reason.

Thank you!

alwaystryin 2009-05-22 23:48:49 -0500 Report

I am only honored to know *him..yea you JD* as a perfect example of someone not only "Engaged" but VERY Smart…

I'm out…
TM…Won't you join "US"?

Lanore 2009-05-21 19:26:10 -0500 Report

Why are T2 being picked on?? Not sure i understand…I was T2 now i am on insulin 24/7, not complaining about it. We all have our own problems rather we are t1 or t2. Yes I know T1 is different from T2, I guess i now know what it is like to be a T1. Testing 5 times a day sucks but i doo it. Taking in sulin shots 4 times a day sucks as well, but i do it.
guess staying away is a good thing, i just got tired of all the crap that seems to pop up once in a while. I really didnt think that there was alot of complaing here just the support we need. Has that changed??

Judi62 2009-05-22 09:54:40 -0500 Report

Sometime folks just need to vent.

alwaystryin 2009-05-22 09:59:36 -0500 Report


Lanore 2009-05-26 05:36:23 -0500 Report

I understand venting I need it from time to time…but these kind of discussions just start trouble!!! Why do that when there is just so much stress out there in the world. DO we really need it here??

Lanore 2009-05-26 05:36:24 -0500 Report

I understand venting I need it from time to time…but these kind of discussions just start trouble!!! Why do that when there is just so much stress out there in the world. DO we really need it here??

Sally 2009-05-21 17:03:13 -0500 Report

I found this upsetting as well. It is a shame that in every social setting we can still find oppionated and short sighted people who can't see past the tip of thier nose. I am a T2, and yes, I whine and am a bit of baby at times. I am scared. Diabetes, T1 or T2, is scarey and I thank God that this site is here, so there are people who understand and will listen to me vent. It is very comforting to know that others are going thru the same things you are and that they are willing to talk to you about it. In no way, by me whining about a problem, am I, or would I, try to take away validity of someone elses suffering. We all suffer in different ways, we all have our own personal battles. That discussion almost made me think of being in high school again. Who's better than who?? We all bleed the same!

Judi62 2009-05-21 13:54:47 -0500 Report

Have you ever heard the poem 'Lord forgive me when I whine'? If not, go to this website to read it.

You may have to paste it in your browser.

I've always believed that were we to all sit in a circle, toss all of our problems into the center, that after reviewing what we see there, we would gladly take back our own.

I consider myself very lucky!!!

Dancehawk 2009-05-21 16:49:09 -0500 Report

Type 1 and Type 2 is no picnic for either. I have to agree this site is family, we all share, tears, fears, hugs, acheviments, when we slip and fall of the wagon, sarrow when we loose a friend or member.

A very very dear friend of mine past away a few months ago, she was my rock throgh cervical cancer without her I would have rolled over and let the cancer take me. Through her battle with cancer she never gave up, yes she had weakness and cried but what amazed me was no matter how sick or bad she felt she was always smiling.
I won my battle but she lost hers.
It was hard dealing with the whys…

This site is like her you all are my rock, without each of you I start to faulter, and I know there are many here that feel the same way.

We cheer when our numbers are good, we wipe away the tears when ones are sad and stressed, we try to give kind words to build up and chase away the fears.
Most of all we give the best hugs.

My moms diabetic so is my brother I was fliped just over a year ago. It is a struggle. But you know something I met some fantastic people here.

God I thank the day I met Sue she sends me jokes and stuff every day, John the creator of this site for caring so much about us he does this for us, Amy because she makes me laugh and smile, Toma for education and friendship, Gabby I love you your awsome sharing your class info to help us the list goes on!

Yes Type 1 is hard I watch my brother with it and my heart aches when he is doing worse, he is fighting cancer, empazeama, MS, a broken back and I wonder what did he do to deserve such a life, then I remember god gives us no more then we can handle, and when we feel we can not carry the load he gives us friends to help carry that load.
So if we are type 1 ot type 2 it does not matter, we are all the same we are friends in the same boat.

I love you guys and I hope you except this Hug!


kdroberts 2009-05-21 13:25:37 -0500 Report

That's a pretty common opinion within the T1 community, along with the "you caused yours, I didn't cause mine" opinion. Not everyone thinks like that but there is a significant proportion that do. Unfortunately it's born out of ignorance about what type 2 is and how it's controlled and is perpetuated by the media. The "take a pill and your controlled" idea is firmly believed by many but in reality is laughable, take it from somebody who has gone through 6 different medications without gaining control and is now taking 4 insulin shots a day.

Both types have their own issues and neither is better or worse than the others. It's like fighting over which is better, having a broken left leg or a broken right leg. "My break is better than your break."

If people learned about all types of diabetes rather than just what is specific to themselves these opinions will keep on going. Unfortunately a lot of people need to blame something or just don't want to learn.

2catty 2009-05-21 16:08:59 -0500 Report

You got it KD. Diabetes is Diabetes no matter what brought it about. I was under the impression that we was in it together. I guess some don't want to be. I did not cause my T2 and have had it a long time and being young.

Judimar 2009-05-21 12:27:17 -0500 Report

All I can do about this is pray for anyone who has this attitude towards another person. Whether I know the names or not. This attitude is a disease to me. I pray that it never infects me or the people in my life.



Jlynn 2009-05-21 12:43:29 -0500 Report

you know thats a good idea ..but maybe because i had time to calm myself or because
i do believe this
There is so much good in the worst of us,
And so much bad in the best of us,
That it hardly behooves any of us
To talk about the rest of us.
Edward Wallis Hoch,
EITHER WAY, I dont wish any more bad thoughts on the people who think as they may..nor do i hope to gather a posse to attack them on here..what I did want to do was give them the chance to see how others feel…
How while they feel so strongly one way..
this is the other view just as strong…

Jlynn 2009-05-21 12:17:13 -0500 Report

There is so much good in the worst of us,
And so much bad in the best of us,
That it hardly behooves any of us
To talk about the rest of us.

Sarguillo 2009-05-21 11:00:52 -0500 Report

Ok, I am a insulin dependent T2. But at one time, back in the days before I was insulin dependant, I thought that T1's had it so easy. They could just take their insulin and eat what they wanted. In fact, I was in the company of a T1 at his house where he was eating Ice Cream. I was looking at him like he was crazy and asked if he should be eating it. He replied "I'll just shoot alittle more insulin to cover
this". You could have dropped me on the moon and I would not have felt any more out of place. So for a while, I was hating that T1's had it so easy. Then I learned that neither one of us has it easy. But as always. The grass is always greener on the other side. Then we grow up and learn to love our own grass. I just need to learn to mow moreo often and do the edges so it looks as as clean cut as eveyone's elses grass.

Mom and boys
Mom and boys 2009-05-21 11:28:47 -0500 Report

OH but … while GD I felt so good on insulin, shots didn't bother me and I was sad when I couldn't go straight to it! I think it has something to do with a subconsusis control issue

Jlynn 2009-05-21 12:08:54 -0500 Report

im sorry what was that?

kdroberts 2009-05-21 14:52:45 -0500 Report

Umm, what was stopping you going right to insulin? There's no law that says a type 2 must use pills. In fact, more type 2's use insulin that type 1's, although the % are very different.

Anngelia 2009-05-21 20:26:54 -0500 Report

kd how can you say that? T1s have no choice but to be on insulin. There isnt another choice. Unless there is something new that I am unaware of.

John Crowley
John Crowley 2009-05-22 10:19:45 -0500 Report

What KD was meaning is that the total number of type 2's on insulin is greater than the total number of type 1's on insulin. Of course, (as you point out) 100% of type 1's are on insulin. And only somewhere around 25% of type 2's are on insulin. But because there are millions more type 2's, that 25% is more people than the 100% of type 1's.

I hope that makes sense.

Mom and boys
Mom and boys 2009-05-21 10:48:33 -0500 Report

WOW I realised that there was some resentment but blow me over!

You know we all have issues, diabeties is just one part of my life and I will not fall into this kind of trap. I have seen what type 1 can do to a person and I have seen what type 2 can do. And neither is good so I am not going to keep moving on one day at a time!

Today Life Is Good!

alwaystryin 2009-05-21 10:13:38 -0500 Report

I feel wrong even joining this discussion but…

Here's the deal, me personally, as well as the entire Family of Diabetic LIFE WON, do not want to 'Type' anyone with anything, especially DIABETICS! Isn't it bad enough that Diabetic's are labeled as 'diseased'. Bo one whats that!!!

Let's all play nicely, become engaged with each other, here in this wonderful forum, with wonderful features, that Mr. John Crowley is is on top of ALL THE TIME. And oh yea, as a fellow Caregiver, John, WE ALSO HAVE A LIFE OUTSIDE THE 'D'.

Please join me in telling 'diabetes', that US(Diabetic's of the World) are NOT afraid of IT(diabetes), IT better be afraid of US!.

Peace to all…
T Moore

cyncyn 2009-05-21 09:45:57 -0500 Report

Rather you have T1 or T2, they are of the same disease!
And both have a right to belly-ache. But, we, as a family are suppose to be here for each other. Some of your days are good, and some are not. We take it one day at a time. And instead of dwelling on the bad things in life, shouldn't we all be thankful for the good things(friends included), that life has given us! I think it would make us feel better, healthwise. Not to mention, mentally also. That is why this community is here. For support. For each and every one of us. No matter whether we are T1 or T2. And keep in mind, our lives could be worse. Visit any Rehabilitation Hospital!!! It just may change your views!

Antique-Dave 2009-05-21 09:10:01 -0500 Report

We all have our own cross to bear, and we all have our own tolernace levels for pain, you really do not know what people are carrying emotionally that they don't talk about.

so if its a release to complain about being a T2 and someone is willing to listen that is between them. I can choose not to get involved, and not become emotionally vested in someone else's thang.

I don't know why though anyone would want to make it a divisive issue between t1 and t2 don't we all belong to the same club?

Jlynn 2009-05-21 11:42:48 -0500 Report

thanks dave.We are all here to gain knowledge support and strength.I dont know if posting this was "O.K" But I did feel it necessary to speak out, my already outspoken on behalf of those here to grow together and learn,laugh with one another. Whenthat was the first thing in my mail box after being out sick for another month; it highly aggravated me..and i reacted as though! so to the 3 people whom are wrote the initial posts…well Im sorry just not sorry as yet..are you??

Antique-Dave 2009-05-21 11:55:26 -0500 Report

I think that the issue could stand on its own as a discussion, no one can say you're not passionate about it :^)

Latte Lady
Latte Lady 2009-05-21 08:29:21 -0500 Report

Let me see. You want to have me walk in your shoes. Hmm.
Okay, IF you go through breast cancer.
Or better, my DH with terminal colo-rectal cancer would be THRILLED to swap with you.
I have to think that just maybe you need to find someone to talk to or with. Sure a lot of residual anger in there.

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