By RosalieM Latest Reply 2014-11-19 15:51:34 -0600
Started 2014-11-17 12:17:51 -0600

This discussion is about carbohydrates. As diabetics, it is important to understand carbohydrates they include:.
SUGAR: all kinds including natural honey and natural maple syrup, and fructose (fruit sugar)
STARCH: includes all kinds of flour from any source, potatoes, rice, dry beans etc.
FRUITS & VEGETABLES are carbohydrates
FIBERS: soluble and in insoluble including resistant starch fiber, inulin and cellulose are carbohydrates also.
Your body makes an enzyme to digest carbohydrates but not all of them. The carbohydrates your body cannot digest are called fiber. Fruits and vegetables comes as a mixture of sugar, starch and fiber. We as diabetics need to lower the sugar and starch in our diets and increase the fiber as much as possible. That can be done in two ways. Choose fruits and vegetables in which the ratio of sugar and starch to fiber is as low as possible and fiber as high as possible. Fiber can sometimes be added to high starch foods to reduce or dilute the sugar and starch. Oat bran, wheat bran, ground flax seed, inulin and resistant starch fiber can be added to foods to reduce their affect on blood sugar. Fiber also slows down the digestion which keeps blood sugar from rising so fast. We need to have a real understanding of carbohydrates. That is why counting carbs by itself doesn't always work. Some carbs are better than others, some don't raise blood sugar at all, it is important for us to know the difference.

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lilleyheidi 2014-11-19 03:22:43 -0600 Report

thanks for this information, every little piece of information is important, but i think the most important thing is to know what works best for YOU individually I can eat shredded wheat or oatmeal for breakfast, both carbs, and technically should raise my BG, but they don't, at least not more than a few numbers, and yet I know most diabetics wouldn't dare to touch either of those foods. It boils down to what those carbs do for YOU and YOUR numbers. Yes, your right, it is important to know the difference, the difference between each other. Thanks for the great information :) HUGS, Heidi.

RosalieM 2014-11-19 13:30:31 -0600 Report

You are right of course. However it is can be very difficult to figure out.
An example is if you eat say oatmeal and exercise before or after you have eaten it, you will get a different blood sugar reading for the oatmeal than if you were sitting around. So is it the oatmeal or the exercise or lack of it that affects the blood sugar response to oatmeal. By the time a person figures all this out for carbohydrates, their feet could be numb and their kidneys going bad. I hope that by having a good knowledge of carbohydrates, figuring out your blood sugar response won't take so long. I am doing a discussion on oatmeal (carbohydrate).

haoleboy 2014-11-18 15:23:12 -0600 Report

As a diabetic (type 2) I think the most important means of understanding carbohydrates is testing after consumption. Much to my surprise I found that many of these "safe" or low impact foods drove my blood glucose levels higher than I am willing to accept and would take my total daily carb intake well above the 50 per day I shoot for.


RosalieM 2014-11-18 17:20:27 -0600 Report

Hi Steve,
What kinds of foods did you think were safe but weren't? The main problem I think a problem for newly diagnosed diabetics is processed food.
I am interested in what you think. Grandma Rose

haoleboy 2014-11-19 15:20:53 -0600 Report

As a former resident of Hawaii, white rice was a very large part of my diet so finding a "replacement" was my quest after diagnosis. I read that whole grain rice would not spike me as badly as white rice. I tried brown rice, various wild rice combinations and even Madagascar pink rice but found that they all drove my bgl higher than I am willing to accept. Likewise various whole grain or low-impact pasta /bread / tortilla products. I have accepted that those food items are no longer a part of my "diet".
As to processed foods … I completely agree and have eliminated them from my diet almost completely, choosing to eat single ingredient whole foods instead.
My diet is a culmination of 7 years of trial and error and the process continues. As I mentioned my daily limit of TOTAL CARBS is 50 or less (I do not play the net carb game…something else I found that generally does not work for me) and have set my postprandial targets at 140 at 1 hour and under 110 at 2 hours. I also do 8/16 fasting … fasting for 16 hours between the last meal of the day and the first of the next and eating only 2 meals within an 8 hour window.
This is what has been working for me. My A1c has been under 6 for several years now and I am still tweaking my diet as my goal is to have an A1c of 5.6 or less.


RosalieM 2014-11-19 15:51:34 -0600 Report

Hi Steve,
I agree, rice is not good in any form. Wild rice may be the least worst if that is a word. Brown rice is
just a little better than white rice as is whole wheat flour is to white flour. It is still mostly starch. More nutritious but still mostly starch.
I will use a small amount of whole barley, not pearled, or whole rye berries and cook them like rice. They are high in naturally occurring resistant starch fiber and soluble and insoluble fiber. They are not as high in starch as rice is because they have so much fiber. Grinding grains into flour causes the resistant starch to be lost some how. Also the tighter the grain is bound the longer it takes to digest so blood sugar rises more slowly. Whole barley and rye berries are hard to find unless you have a bulk food store, they might carry it. I can buy wholesale so I can get it in 25 pound bags. It keeps a long time in the freezer.

RebDee 2014-11-17 15:36:51 -0600 Report

Thanks for your information. I have been on the NO WHITE DIET for a while and it is helping me to lose weight. I do not eat Sugar, Salt, White rice, White noodles, White potatoes. But I do use spinach noodles, brown rice, and yams or sweet potatoes. I mostly eat protein including beans, chicken, turkey and fish but NO meat (at least not yet as the surgeon says NO for at least a year following bariatric surgery).

Glucerna 2014-11-18 14:01:36 -0600 Report

You've made some important changes RebDee and it's great they're working well for you. Learning more about carbohydrate and how it affects each person individually is key, isn't it? ~Lynn @Glucerna

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