A walk into hypoglycemia hell

valentine lady
By valentine lady Latest Reply 2014-11-29 20:46:51 -0600
Started 2014-11-16 18:49:32 -0600

I wrote a discussion similar to the one I am about to write now several years ago. The
exception being this is much more urgent and much more in need of help. I have
some sort of almost instantly type of hypoglycaemia that drops my BG from normal to minus 32 in a matter of seconds. I know the dangers of this, I simply don't know how to detect it first, (just before it happens) l was eating dinner, baked chicken and green beans. What I remember isgfeeling like I was floating got very hot than nothing. They say I pushed the call ligjt, but found me passed out. My BG was 32. Just before I
started to eat they did my BG and it was 115.

What I need to know is does anyone have answers for me. Experieced similar?
Anything will help. I think my Dr.thinks I'm making it up or stretching the truth. I am not. This is happening more and more often. Drops lower than the ladt time. I'm Type
2, dx in 2007. I've lost 75 plus lbs. I eat low carb, high protein. I am no longet take
any type of medication for my diabetes and my last A1C was 5.1. Can you all help me.?


72 replies

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-11-29 18:51:25 -0600 Report

Hi Heidi,
First let me thank you for contributing to my discussion .
each and every contribution makes it one step closer to the
answer I seek. Thank you. Your concerns overwhelms
me. you have touched my heart. We all need To know. We're cared about, you have accomplished that in your last email.
Love snd hugs
Peggy

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-11-29 18:47:01 -0600 Report

Hi Heidi,
First let me the or contributing to my discussion .
each and every contribution makes it one step closer to the
answer I seek. Thank you. Your concerns overwhelms
me. you have touched my heart. We all need To know. We're cared about, youu have accomplished that in your last email.
Love snd hugs
Peggy

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-11-28 11:52:04 -0600 Report

Hi Dr. Gary,
yend blood work wil
0ou feel my pain and. I feel your's…we both have a serious problem and I don't have answers. I do plan on seeing a Nurse Practioner. My
appointment is coming up fast. I am anxious to go. Maybe then I will get some answers.
Thank you for replying to my discussion. I did speak to my Dr. today asI went low last . 32 again…I passed out again. She says I'm not
Hypoglycemic but possibly an infection is causing me to drop like I do.
I explainednto her I always have dropped, that's when she sughested an
Imfection. The blood work will tell,MN hope so anyway.
Hugs to you, valentine lady

jayabee52
jayabee52 2014-11-28 16:02:15 -0600 Report

Sweetness,
Told you this AM I was gonna check out "Hypo unawareness" and this is what I found in one of the articles: "Sometimes, maintaining slightly higher blood sugar levels for a period of time can improve the ability to detect low blood sugar." source ~ http://www.diabetesselfmanagement.com/Article...

I plan on researching this further (till I have to get ready to leave for dialysis) and may add to it if I discover something interesting.

Love ya
J

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-11-28 20:57:00 -0600 Report

Dear James,
I"' m so overwhelmed at your pure determination to find sn answer for me.
I am so upsrt by all this I just don't know what to expect moment by moment.
Tonight my BG was 197. My nurse insisted on me taking 6 units. Within
10 minutes I dropped to 61. I tried to tell him m but I suppose he had to see for himself. Then he played he k trying to play catch up to get me at least in the 80's. What he doesn't realize what it does to me physically as well as mentally.
Anyway, thank you love. Your devotion to me is simply overwhelming.

Love you, P

jayabee52
jayabee52 2014-11-28 23:25:37 -0600 Report

Dearest,
I am so ticked at that RN I could chew nails! What you didn't say above that this 197 was within 20 min after you were done eating supper and you asked him to hold off. You also asked him to hold off on injecting you with the 6 U of insulin but he did not listen to you, that you refused the injection AMA. But he went ahead and injected you against your objections..

I told you on the phone that I wonder how many others in that facility he may have done that to. Folks who are unable to speak up or to even think clearly. I asked you to take it to the Director of nurses. Unfortunately the weekend is here and the DON won't be in till Mon. That RN needs a remedial course in caring for diabetes patients as a requirement for keeping his licence. If the DON doesn't give satisfaction then the facility director needs to be notified. If he does not give sastisfaction then complain to the TX board of nursing (or whatever they call it in that state).

If you'd like, I could look up the appropriate state board and send it to you via PM.

Love you!
J.

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-11-29 10:45:51 -0600 Report

Hi GB,
First of all I wish to thank you for answering my discussion. Your so bright and cheerful, yet full of wonderful ideas and tip
However, at least at this point I cannot use them. For some reason the way I drop is awful. One minute I'm fine the next minute I've dropped to hypoglycemic hell. I've tried snacking al
day long and for awhile it worked. Then all this mess started
and all I know is ride this through. If I ever get through all this I will adopt your way of eating. Until then, well just until then.
love and hugs,
valentine lady

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-11-29 10:45:49 -0600 Report

Hi GB,
First of all I wish to thank you for answering my discussion. Your so bright and cheerful, yet full of wonderful ideas and tip
However, at least at this point I cannot use them. For some reason the way I drop is awful. One minute I'm fine the next minute I've dropped to hypoglycemic hell. I've tried snacking al
day long and for awhile it worked. Then all this mess started
and all I know is ride this through. If I ever get through all this I will adopt your way of eating. Until then, well just until then.
love and hugs,
valentine lady

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-11-29 10:45:36 -0600 Report

Hi GB,
First of all I wish to thank you for answering my discussion. Your so bright and cheerful, yet full of wonderful ideas and tip
However, at least at this point I cannot use them. For some reason the way I drop is awful. One minute I'm fine the next minute I've dropped to hypoglycemic hell. I've tried snacking al
day long and for awhile it worked. Then all this mess started
and all I know is ride this through. If I ever get through all this I will adopt your way of eating. Until then, well just until then.
love and hugs,
valentine lady

lilleyheidi
lilleyheidi 2014-11-29 03:42:31 -0600 Report

WOW, just WOW, the nurse gave the injection of insulin AFTER VL said no to it? yup, I'd definitely be spitting bullets. This situation is just not right.
I've never had a low that was as low as you go VL, I've gone down to 40's, but never passed out, I thank God for that. I will definitely be keeping you in my prayers, and please let me know how this turns out and where you go from here, or James, will you let me know where this goes? Thanks, Gods blessings on you both, Heidi

Graylin Bee
Graylin Bee 2014-11-28 10:05:44 -0600 Report

So sorry you are going through this.
I get sudden lows, but never as low as to pass out.
As others suggests, snacking or grazing works best for me. I may have a really good meal, then under two hours later I will start to drop. Usually hits about the time I am just leaving for work or just starting my shift. I keep peanut butter, almond butter, or sunflower butter handy by the door to eat a spoonful on my way out. Or, high protein, low carb bars handy in my pocket, purse and backpack. Some days I do need to increase my carbs a bit.
Having worked in nursing homes and assisted living I completely understand the eat to make it to the next meal and hope it has a more diabetic friendly selection. When I read the menu at work I usually freak out (inside of course). Heavy on carbs and low on protein.
As long as I can remember certain foods made me go low, although as a child I did not know that was what was happening, and my parents never understood. Drs. never tested for diabetes or else if they did my A1c or BG or urine was OK at the test time. Now that I test I can look back and see the pattern.
Do you go low more often on days when the meals have had certain food items? For me if I eat grains I am more apt to have lows aster the highs. Sweet potatoes make my BG go lower a 3-4 hours after eating than I was before, even if I accidently eat a serving size that makes my BG a little higher than I like at the 2 hour after point.
I have had to wake residents in the middle of the night to get them to eat a snack to keep them from going low. That was before I really understood how complex an issue what works and doesn't work from personal experience.
Also, I have been the one trying to get someone up from a low. One person took over 4 hours. He had taken his metformin but barely eaten all day. Then the OJ the RA gave me from his fridge was the lower carb type. After 30 minutes I finally read the label, went and got regular OJ, and gave him two of my glucose tabs. Just one of the Tabs raises me over 15 points in 15 minutes, Not with him. I then, called the on call nurse who said give him Cherrios with 2 Tbsp of added sugar, and milk Finally he had a reading above the 80's.
Back to snacks. As Dr. Gary suggested protein snacks. In your case, do you have a fridge in your room? If not, they do have tuna salads in ready to eat pouches I like. My favorite is tuna with ranch dressing in the pouch. I can grab it, rip it open and it is ready, no fridge needed, just a plastic spoon or knife. I use them sometimes if I remember it has been longer than a few hours since I last ate.
I used to feel guilty that I was always snacking, or as my mom used to say "there you are eating again and we just ate". No longer do I worry about what others think about how often I need a little something to eat to keep from feeling the icky BG dropping sensations away.

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-11-29 10:36:38 -0600 Report

Hi GB,
First of all I wish to thank you for answering my discussion. Your so bright and cheerful, yet full of wonderful ideas and tip
However, at least at this point I cannot use them. For some reason the way I drop is awful. One minute I'm fine the next minute I've dropped to hypoglycemic hell. I've tried snacking al
day long and for awhile it worked. Then all this mess started
and all I know is ride this through. If I ever get through all this I will adopt your way of eating. Until then, well just until then.
love and hugs,
valentine lady

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-11-29 10:33:29 -0600 Report

Hi GB,
First of all I wish to thank you for answering my discussion. Your so bright and cheerful, yet full of wonderful ideas and tip
However, at least at this point I cannot use them. For some reason the way I drop is awful. One minute I'm fine the next minute I've dropped to hypoglycemic hell. I've tried snacking al
day long and for awhile it worked. Then all this mess started
and all I know is ride this through. If I ever get through all this I will adopt your way of eating. Until then, well just until then.
love and hugs,
valentine lady

jayabee52
jayabee52 2014-11-28 15:51:35 -0600 Report

Howdy GB
The thing is VL has hypoglycemia unawareness so she just goes unconscious as the first clue that anything is amiss. I need to research hypo unawareness because it runs in my mind that there is a way of resetting one's hypo clues, but can't remember how to do it.

Graylin Bee
Graylin Bee 2014-11-29 20:46:51 -0600 Report

I understood the unaware part of it. That also happens to me, just not as drastically fast. I was only suggesting that perhaps there could be a pattern that could be figured out of a food or foods that might be contributing. My example was of sweet potatoes. I can eat a perfect meal carb balance wise. But if I eat the sweet potatoes I can suddenly be crashing low afterwards. Then play yo-yo for the next 24 hours. It took me a while to determine it was the sweet potatoes. I finally saw the pattern.
Another sneaky food for me is some salad dressings. If I am eating prepared food and forget to watch for them, I can either go high or low and back and forth too fast to keep up. That is , again, why I suggested a food issue might be contributing. Since she is mainly eating food prepared for others and has no idea what ingredients are in them it could be almost impossible to determine if this could be a part of the plunges into oblivion she is having.
Unfortunately I have witnessed fellow people with diabetes suffering from lack of knowledge about proper diet in health care settings. I have been responsible for trying to control others' BG while they are unable to due to various dementias. I have seen the effect different foods have on different people. That is why I suggested it might be a contributing factor. (And so nobody thinks I am implying anyone in this discussion has undiagnosed or diagnosed dementia I am only trying to explain I comprehend the difficulty of trying to figure out why someone can suddenly with no warning go low).
I am fortunate to have enough reaction time and awareness to grab something to raise my BG. But do experience sudden seemingly unexplained crashes. Sometimes I can figure out that I have been under some added stress and think this may contribute. So perhaps for VL the stress of each incident is adding to the problem, both by stressing her physically and emotionally.
I am sorry VL is at the mercy of others for deciding about her insulin. When I was in a similar circumstance during recovery from surgery I was fortunate in that the nurses let me decide about when and how much insulin to take. I does seem her nurses do need to learn to trust her knowledge. As a caregiver I understand the temptation to think I know more than the resident,

jayabee52
jayabee52 2014-11-28 05:10:23 -0600 Report

AN UPDATE on Valentine Lady as of 7:30 pm 11/27/2014
I spoke with her tonight after I got home from Thanksgiving with my son, DIL, and her parents. She told me she dropped to 32 mg/dl. The staff in the nursing home found her passed out in her bed. They had to give her another shot of glucagon and work on her a long time for her BG to come up over 70 mg/dl. She was pretty well wiped out when we spoke and I kept our conversation brief so she could get some more rest.

I intend to call her this morning to touch bases with her.

I really thought that I had her problem figured out, but the human body is so complex it is not quite that easy!

I prayed with her for her safety through the night on the phone before we hung up.

James.

Dr Gary
Dr GaryCA 2014-11-25 22:07:58 -0600 Report

HI Valentine Lady,

I am sorry I didn't see this discussion earlier. James brought it to my attention! :))

I have had hypoglycemia since high school. I had asthma as a child, and a pretty incompetent doctor gave me large doses of steroids, which caused a lot of problems with my blood sugar.

I have gone so low I have passed out and had to be assisted before. I have to really watch my diet. No sugar, low carbs, high protein, lots of tuna and chicken.

If I am at a restaurant, I have a tiny bit of the potato and little or no bread. No dessert. I try to get my carbs from vegetables, and then eat lean meat. I also graze during the day on weekdays. I pack a large chicken or tuna salad and keep it in a lunchbox with ice, and eat small amounts.

When I am not able to graze, I buy sugar free protein bars at GNC and hear maybe a half of one between meals, just to help keep my sugar even.

I really feel your pain.

And as has been suggested, can you touch base with a dietician?

I hope you get some better answers. Please keep me posted!

Gary

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-11-21 13:33:19 -0600 Report

Jayabee52 and Glucerna.com
I have been seen by a Dr.Hynes today. Dr. Rice sent her to see me early. Yes, they drew blood to see what they can see. This is what was said. We'll

keep an eye on you, no I don't believe your hypoglycemic and I have heard

of people dropping lower. Change the way you eat, if that's what pleases you. Last but not least, I don't think that the blood test will show anything..,.last but not least, yes, I know you passed out, your body kind of went into shock. You woke up didn't you? No concerns, no compassion, just very clinical and matter of fact.. Can't say I didn't expect just what I got. This is what she'll pass along to Dr.Rice. I still have no answers.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2014-11-22 14:42:04 -0600 Report

HELLO BABY!
Read down a bit and I tell others about what you and I figured out last night when I was on dialysis. I then came to a realization about why the hypos may be happening, I won't bore everyone by repeating it again.
I will be talking to you in a little bit and will share my thoughts with you on the phone as well.

Love Ya
J

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-11-23 09:40:08 -0600 Report

Hello Baby,
read down and loved what you said. I don't want to bore anyone either so I'll signoff and continue onnext emai). Do you know Lynn posted to you by next emsil. Take a look. I think you're going to enjoy it.

Love u,,
P

Glucerna
Glucerna 2014-11-21 13:43:17 -0600 Report

I'm so sorry to hear that you didn't get any answers from the doctor visit today. Perhaps you can get a referral from a registered dietitian who can review your usual food choices and give you some suggestions? When medication isn't the cause of hypoglycemia, often an RD can figure out how to prevent these episodes from occurring. ~Lynn @Glucerna

jayabee52
jayabee52 2014-11-20 16:55:40 -0600 Report

Valentine lady told me the other night she went into this hell and they had to use a glucagon pen to bring her out of it.

It worries me that she goes through this and I fall asleep praying that she is OK overnight.

She has scheduled a Dr appt for Mon. I pray Dr Rice has some helpful answers for her.

BTW I contacted Dr Gary and sent him the link to this discussion. I pray he has some good recommendations for you.

J

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-11-20 20:13:12 -0600 Report

My Dear James, To tell you not to worry would be like talking to a blank wall. We both are concerned about this situation and
neither of us know how to fix it. So…lets just wait and see what
Dr. Rice says. No one has ever shown such concern toward me
before, I am sure I don't know what to do with it. I want to say
"Don't worry, " but on the other hand I enjoy the attention you're
gi:ving me. So I am really confused. Both issues have really gpt me in a tail spin. I reslly need yoir advice James. !! I need your
wisdom. Until later…
Love,
P

jayabee52
jayabee52 2014-11-22 14:35:55 -0600 Report

I think we figured it out on the phone last night when I was on dialysis.
.
You mentioned you started having the hypos after you ran out of your Adkins bars.

I pray you can get some more bars soon and see if my thought would be correct about the protein in the bars keeping your tummy digesting for most of the night which should theoretically .keep you out of the hypo range.

It just now occurred to me that your liver may have exhausted its glucagon stores and so you go into hypoglycemia since your liver has no glucagon to dump.

Maybe you may need to increase your carb intake just a bit to build up the glucagon in your liver. But when we next talk I will tell this to you over the phone.

With love
J
PS: get the chewing gum out of your ears! LoL!

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-11-23 10:35:15 -0600 Report

Hello Baby,
Throughly enjoyed your email to me. I do think we did figure it out. Now honestly I
don't think that I am that up on my liver so I did learn something from you. Of course
I learned much more on the phone. Thank you for the learning lesson. As you know I've slightly raised my carbs snd I do feel
better. Even my nurse thinks that I look better. We might have done it. I sure hope so.
Love u,
P

Glucerna
Glucerna 2014-11-22 19:35:41 -0600 Report

This is an interesting idea James and sounds like it's worth a try. Let us know how it works out. ~Lynn @Glucerna

Glucerna
Glucerna 2014-11-20 17:55:24 -0600 Report

I'll be thinking about both of you this weekend, and hope that your get some answers to what's going on when you see the doctor Monday Valentine lady. ~Lynn @Glucerna

jayabee52
jayabee52 2014-11-20 18:16:02 -0600 Report

Thanks so much Lynn.

I expect she is in PT right now or she'd probably be answering herself

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-11-20 20:40:11 -0600 Report

Hi Lynn,
Just to say thank you for your wonderful thoughts about James and I. Will let you know what my dr.says as soon sd i get home. Hugs, Peggy

funnygirl98
funnygirl98 2014-11-19 11:27:31 -0600 Report

I have the same problem as u do. My dr doesn't know what causes mine either. I get the same symptoms get severely hot but then I get severe dry heaves shakes and then the sweats and my eyes and nose run real bad like I've been crying real hard but haven't. Only thing that helps me is to lie flat on my back slowly eat until I feel back to normal again. I also have been diabetic since 2007. If u find out any answers I'd love to know so I can talk to my dr as well. Thanks for the discussion.

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-11-20 05:26:43 -0600 Report

Hi Funnygirl,
I am not going to mince words, my heart breaks for you. The
only difference between you and I is our nose running. Mine does not. Everything else is the same. I wouldn't wish this on anyone. Your so young to have this happen to you. Girl, if I ever find a clue as to the cause you'll be the first one I will email.
That's a promise. Read through these posts, there are some real
wonderful tips in here. Their worth a try. Atleast !'m going to give them a shot.. Take care know their's someone who is pulling for you.

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-11-20 05:25:55 -0600 Report

Hi Funnygirl,
I am not going to mince words, my heart breaks for you. The
only difference between you and I is our nose running. Mine does not. Everything else is the same. I wouldn't wish this on anyone. Your so young to have this happen to you. Girl, if I ever find a clue as to the cause you'll be the first one I will email.
That's a promise. Read through these posts, there are some real
wonderful tips in here. Their worth a try. Atleast !'m going to give them a shot.. Take care know their's someone who is pulling for you.

tabby9146
tabby9146 2014-11-19 09:28:58 -0600 Report

I am so sorry. I wish I had answers. I have never experienced that before, though I have had lows, but not near that low. I hope you find out what caused it soon.

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-11-20 16:44:47 -0600 Report

Hi tabby,
thank you for answering my discussion, especially with so much compassion . That alone is so much appreciated .. you said you've never experienced this, at that low at least. I pray you never do. I wouldn't want anyone else to experience it. Although, I know there are, my heart breaks for them. Thank you for your kind thoughts, may God bless you. …Hugs, VL

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-11-20 10:40:13 -0600 Report

Hi Funnygirl,
I am not going to mince words, my heart breaks for you. The
only difference between you and I is our nose running. Mine
does not. Everything else is the same. I wouldn't wish this on anyone. Your so young to have this happen to you. Girl, if I evefind a clue as to the cause you'll be the first one I will email.
That's a promise. Read through these posts, there are some real
wonderful tips in here. Their worth a try. Atleast !'m going to give them a shot.. Take care know their's someone who is pulling for you.

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-11-20 10:40:09 -0600 Report

Hi Funnygirl,
I am not going to mince words, my heart breaks for you. The
only difference between you and I is our nose running. Mine
does not. Everything else is the same. I wouldn't wish this on anyone. Your so young to have this happen to you. Girl, if I evefind a clue as to the cause you'll be the first one I will email.
That's a promise. Read through these posts, there are some real
wonderful tips in here. Their worth a try. Atleast !'m going to give them a shot.. Take care know their's someone who is pulling for you.

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-11-20 07:53:23 -0600 Report

Hi Funnygirl,
I am not going to mince words, my heart breaks for you. The
only difference between you and I is our nose running. Mine
does not. Everything else is the same. I wouldn't wish this on anyone. Your so young to have this happen to you. Girl, if I evefind a clue as to the cause you'll be the first one I will email.
That's a promise. Read through these posts, there are some real
wonderful tips in here. Their worth a try. Atleast !'m going to give them a shot.. Take care know their's someone who is pulling for you.

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-11-20 07:52:26 -0600 Report

Hi Funnygirl,
I am not going to mince words, my heart breaks for you. The
only difference between you and I is our nose running. Mine
does not. Everything else is the same. I wouldn't wish this on anyone. Your so young to have this happen to you. Girl, if I evefind a clue as to the cause you'll be the first one I will email.
That's a promise. Read through these posts, there are some real
wonderful tips in here. Their worth a try. Atleast !'m going to give them a shot.. Take care know their's someone who is pulling for you.

Stuart1966
Stuart1966 2014-11-18 11:25:45 -0600 Report

Hello Valentine Lady:

Sorry to hear you are having this kind of trouble and pure misery. By definition what you described is what most of us are deathly afraid.

The question becomes, WHAT caused it. And there is no insulin on the planet administered by normal means which can cause a hundred and twenty point drop in "seconds". If it did so, this board would be empty because all of us would either be in Critical Care Units or simply dead.

That being said, clearly something happened such that you crashed and burned in terms of your blood sugar.

The scenario you describe sounds like you were in a severe free fall situation. You got a number, were content and kept doing what you were doing.

The only problem, that single moment in time was only that, a single second, in which you were that particular reading. Meters are not venous blood draws which would give us real time readings. Had you taken readings in five minute intervals say thirty minutes before dinner, and every five minutes from the 130 reading which you did get, its certain you'd get a line graph that would head straight down.

How many times have you had this experience before? One time is scary enough. More than once gives you a pattern(s) to study. You might well be able to figure it out, if we hit the right channel, get the right hints. More likely, its going to take some blood work, and a bunch of tests to make certain other things are not causing/helping the issue to happen.

Lets try a couple things see if any of them whisper, hint what could be happening?

1) More protein THROUGHOUT the day. Every couple hours, protein rich foods ? See how you feel doing that for a couple weeks.

2) What is your calculation of the carbs you are eating in a day? How many are we talking in total? If you're not eating enough food, your body will do all kinds of things to prevent (or over react) to the starvation it perceives. Rightly or wrongly, it may believe you are literally starving.

3) There any patterns, common aspects, events/pieces you can identify between this latest episode and "previous" one(s)? Events are rarely entirely random, or haphazard.

Unconscious would tend to be a CLEAR indication you were NOT making up anything. How you got there could be a debate, but the reading of 32 from 115 seems pretty clean tangible evidence something bad happened.

Who took these readings? What kind of machine was used? Had it been calibrated recently? Was it particularly cold, wet where the reading was taken. Did they use alcohol before getting that 115 reading. Alcohol can skew the numbers, and hasn't been protocol for a very long time.

Fear is a creature you MUST NOT FEED. Feed it, and it will grow. You have a math problem here, lets figure out how to prevent it again. Are such events becoming daily? Weekly? How often are they happening?

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-11-19 13:44:53 -0600 Report

Hi Stuart,
I am sorry but I just don't have many answers for you. I passed out they told me it took a lot to bring me out of it. Even more to
bring ,me up to a normal level. I don't know what kind of meter it
is a nd yes they used alcohol to clean my finger. My Nurse, who on is also the charge nurse at night. Is the one who did my Bg.
I do eat proteon through the day. My carbs I keep around 5
per day. I'm on a weighy loss diet. But I don't think I am starving myself. I eat quite well for being on a diet.. just last night I went to 188 and they forced me to take 3 units. Within 30
minutes I dropped 71 points. They gave ice cream to eat to stop the drop. It worked…Thank God.,.. I was already starting into hypoglycemia hell She saved me…well James did too, he actually guessed it. These drops have been. going on since the beginning of my diabetes.. wish I could answe ,more. Hugs VL

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-11-19 13:44:18 -0600 Report

Hi Stuart,
I am sorry but I just don't have many answers for you. I passed out they told me it took a lot to bring me out of it. Even more to
bring ,me up to a normal level. I don't know what kind of meter it
is a nd yes they used alcohol to clean my finger. My Nurse, who on is also the charge nurse at night. Is the one who did my Bg.
I do eat proteon through the day. My carbs I keep around 5
per day. I'm on a weighy loss diet. But I don't think I am starving myself. I eat quite well for being on a diet.. just last night I went to 188 and they forced me to take 3 units. Within 30
minutes I dropped 71 points. They gave ice cream to eat to stop the drop. It worked…Thank God.,.. I was already starting into hypoglycemia hell She saved me…well James did too, he actually guessed it. These drops have been. going on since the beginning of my diabetes.. wish I could answe ,more. Hugs VL

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-11-19 13:44:11 -0600 Report

Hi Stuart,
I am so sorry but I just don't have many answers for you. I passed out they told me it took a lot to bring me out of it. Even

more to
bring ,me up to a normal level. I don't know what kind of meter it
is and yes they used alcohol to clean my finger. My Nurse, who is also the charge nurse at night. Is the one who did my
BG.

I do eat protien through the day. My carbs I keep around 50
per day. I'm on a weighy loss diet. But I don't think I am starving myself. I eat quite well for being on a diet.. just last night I went to 188 and they forced me to take 3 units. Within 30
minutes I dropped 71 points. They gave ice cream to eat to stop the drop. It worked…Thank God.,.. I was already starting into hypoglycemia hell She saved me…well James did too, he

actually guessed it. These drops have been. going on since the beginning of my diabetes.. wish I could answe ,more. Hugs VL

Glucerna
Glucerna 2014-11-17 17:19:32 -0600 Report

Since you're not taking any diabetes medication, perhaps you could talk with your doctor or pharmacist and see if any of your other medications might be causing the rapid drop in blood sugar. You also could ask for a referral to a registered dietitian who can help you figure out what, when and how much to eat to prevent these lows from happening. I'm glad you were able to press the call light! ~Lynn @Glucerna

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-11-17 23:32:33 -0600 Report

Hi Lynn,
As I said, my Nurse and I went over my medsand she said no, there's no way any of my meds were doing it. Then she said it
was something else causing it. Well no kidding. So I need to speak to my Pharmacists. Medication wise I trust a Pharmacists
above all. I want to thank you for contributing on my
discussion. Your opinion means so much.

Set apart
Set apart 2014-11-17 14:57:45 -0600 Report

Hi, I have experienced this twice in the last year. Once in the early morning, I was having coffee getting ready to exercise. My BG fasting had been 115, so I was going to have some peanut butter crackers for a snack. No more than 10 minutes later I felt nauseated and not sure what was wrong my CGM went off, and the graph looked like I had fallen off a cliff, my BG went down to 42. I didn't pass out, but I became so scared. Orange juice did the trick, but I went into a body sweat, and fell asleep after this episode. The second time I was driving home, luckily I was almost home and I thought I was experiencing my blood pressure dropping since I have other contributors to something like this. I got home and I checked my BG reading first I was at 39. Didn't even feel it, and this time around I wasn't wearing my CGM. I also told my doctor, who looked said I may have had some insulin which had a delay in absorption????? I am not sure I believe this, know how you feel.

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-11-17 23:13:10 -0600 Report

Hi Set apart,
Sounds to me like you took a walk in hypoglycemic hell. Especially the first time. Sleep is the dezd give away when you go hypoglycemic. Your just very luvky the Lord was watching over you the 2nd.time. 39 is very low. As far as what your Dr.. said,, I have to admit I've heard lots of things, but never that. I'm
not saying it's not the truth. I'm just saying that sounds strange.
Sounds to me like you sort of agree with me. Thamk you for commenting on my discussion. Yoir input meand a lot.

Pegsy
Pegsy 2014-11-17 07:47:21 -0600 Report

Valentine Lady, does this always happen while you are eating or does it happen at other times? I was having a strange sensation near the beginning of each meal that was very frightening. If I tested my glucose at the time, it was lower but not dangerously low. When I mentioned it to my doctor she said to try eating my carb serving first and then the rest of my meal. I found that this did help and I don't experience that sensation any more. I don't know if this will help you but I don't think it would hurt to try.

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-11-17 12:11:13 -0600 Report

Hi Pegsy,
it happened this time while I was eating but it happens at different times too. I like your Dr.'s idea by eating my carbs first
along with other things I will do that for sure. Thanks for the tip
and thank you for answering my discussion.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2014-11-17 01:02:36 -0600 Report

Howdy Sweetie
I'd like to come up with something witty to say but I cannot. You told me that you wanted the nursing staff to call me and they didn't because they didn't want to upset me. I would have started to pray for you, once my confusion cleared.

I am glad that they did get your BG levels stable and you got through the rest of the night without incident.

I prayed for you after I heard of it that night.

With love, m'love

J

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-11-17 11:25:24 -0600 Report

Hi Sweetheart,
I did want the Nurses to call but glad now they didn't. I could use your prayers, especially then, but it was just one of those
things. My Nurse said she would have called had I went to the
hospital. But you know what happened as I sort of talked to you when it was all over. Actually Love, I don't remember a lot of
that conversation.
With Love,
P

lilleyheidi
lilleyheidi 2014-11-16 23:24:56 -0600 Report

WOW, Valentine Lady, 32 is very low. You have me over the barrel on this as you don't take any diabetes meds. Like others have said, maybe some carbs or fats added to your diet?
I know that when I get down into the 50's it is very scary so I can't imagine how scary that would be. Gods best to you.

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-11-17 12:04:25 -0600 Report

Hi Heidi
Thank you for replying to my discussion. I really appreciate it.
For sure I plan to eat a little more carbs in my meals. Add a little
fats too. Your right 32 is low, but, I have been in the lower than that in the past. It's horrible, even when you come out of it. It still takes srveral hours to completely come back to you. I pray
it never happens to you. Thanks again…

MatthewG
MatthewG 2014-11-18 21:26:51 -0600 Report

Hi Valentine Lady,
Try eating carbs with more fiber. It will take your body longer to digest, I think it could help stabilize your BG.

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-11-16 22:17:36 -0600 Report

Hi Littlesister,
you know it never occured to me that I may need to add some fat to my diet. The Nurse and I went through my regular meds to see
If that was the things that c0ould be dropping my BG. But no, we
found nothing. Thank you for you input, maybe we"ll all figure out an answer.

Littlesister56
Littlesister56 2014-11-16 20:57:38 -0600 Report

Lady Valentine- Are you on any meds that could possibly be causing this, I know you said no diabetes meds. You also say you are on low carb hi protein diet. Maybe you need a little bit more fat in your diet to sustain your bs a bit? I just would try to eat some foods that might typically keep bs up longer. Maybe have a Apple with some Peanut butter as a snack or dessert and see what happens. Just a thought, I do not suffer lows like that, and since I stopped using Byetta and just take Metformin and a 1/2 to a 1 mg pill of Prandin I can't say I have had a true low but know they are scary and miserable to have.

RebDee
RebDee 2014-11-16 19:13:12 -0600 Report

Sorry I cannot help you my friend but at least I can commissurate with you. I know when my blood sugars are down to 60 as my insides are shaking while my outsides are not and it wakes me up and I run to eat the refrigerator. Sometimes my dog, Artemus Gordon, wakes me when he feels that my blood sugars are too low — I don't know how he knows but he smacks me with his huge paw (he is a Labra-Dane) and it wakes me. You should get a ketone dog to make sure your blood sugars do not go too far down that you pass out. Take care.

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-11-17 01:32:33 -0600 Report

Hi RebDee,
Thank you for thinking of me. Don't worry about not being able
to help me. Iam at a stand still over this to. Wish I had a dog
like yours! That would be perfect. But where I live they don't
allow dogs or pets of any kind. As soon as I read your reply, I asked. Your big baby sounds just wonderful.

Joelelliotthudson
Joelelliotthudson 2014-11-16 22:27:25 -0600 Report

RebDee, I've heard of these dogs, a good idea as I understand it they can smell the dropping BG levels and are trained to alert on the first signs of trouble!
Stay Healthy (You too Valentine lady)

RosalieM
RosalieM 2014-11-16 19:08:32 -0600 Report

Perhaps you need to add some slow digesting carbohydrate to you diet, like dry beans. Not fast digesting as that could make matters worse. Are you very active? I am really active and sometimes the effect of the days activity doesn't hit me until late in the day. I may wake up with blood sugar in the fifties.
Another possibility is you may have developed low blood sugar. The suggestion
is the same add slow digesting carbohydrates. Barley, wheat berries, dry beans
foods like that. Grandma Rose

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-11-17 01:45:57 -0600 Report

Hi Rosalie,
Thank you for your wonderful answer. One that is well worth looking in to. However, they make our food here and theywouldn't spend the time and ,money to fix us just wonderful
foods you speak of. but, I 'll be leaving in a few months and will work them into my diet then. Thank you for your input, it's
well worth thr thought.

NewSong53
NewSong53 2014-11-18 04:52:34 -0600 Report

I'm sorry to hear about the difficulties you've been having. Not being the one in control of your food must be frustrating. I know there are tablets you can get to help with low blood sugar episodes. I used to carry them in my purse (pretty tasty, actually) but I haven't had that problem in so long I stopped doing it. You might want to ask your doctor about that as an option (maybe keep it on your bedside table). Hope you're better soon, sweetie!

RosalieM
RosalieM 2014-11-17 06:58:51 -0600 Report

You are not at home I take it. Sorry I can't help you more.
Grandma Rose

jayabee52
jayabee52 2014-11-20 15:17:17 -0600 Report

yes Rosalie, she lives in a nursing home, at least until she comes to live with me mid 2015.
Then she will be more in control of what foods she eats as we will share the menu planning and the cooking.
I wouldn't knowingly serve her anything which would spike or hypo her.
Right now she tries to make the best choices she can regarding her meal choices, but with the nursing home food budget that is quite a difficult task. The other day she was served something that I myself would not eat (don't remember what it was) but if she chose not to eat it she would have eaten nothing for that meal, which is not good for our diabetes either. I think she wisely ate only a partial portion of the items they served her so she would have something to digest while waiting for her next meal.

Type1Lou
Type1Lou 2014-11-16 19:01:00 -0600 Report

You certainly have me stumped! My heart goes out to you. I've been at 32 before and know it's truly frightening. I hope you find some answers…maybe need to add some more carbs into your diet?

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-11-17 01:56:16 -0600 Report

Hi Lou,
I know your stumped, so am I. 32 scared me to death. I pa a sed out. I will try to add a few more carbs to my meals. Sure
hope it works. Thanks for the input, hope it works.

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