needs help

By thouston1135 Latest Reply 2014-10-28 11:27:36 -0500
Started 2014-10-26 08:31:40 -0500

Hello everyone, my name is Tyler, i am 19, and im here to ask a favor. I have a fund going for the assistance in my diabetes. It turns out that the prices for supplies and all are too much money for me so i have raised a fund at I would really appreciate the donation from fellow diabetics. Thank you all for your time.

19 replies

John Crowley
John CrowleyCA 2014-10-28 11:27:36 -0500 Report

Hello, Tyler, and also hello to James, Joyce, and Valentine Lady. First of all, Tyler, welcome to Diabetic Connect. I am sorry if the first impression you have of our site has not been a positive one. Let me tell you that this really is a great site with great supportive friends. We do have some rules of the road here to help the site run smoothly. We are very careful about solicitations as the spammers out on the internet would quickly overwhelm a site like this if we didn't have those policies.

However, that being said, I want to reassure you that we are not unsympathetic to your situation. As a community of people who have also had to deal with the harsh financial realities of diabetes, we definitely understand your difficulties. (And for our friends who don't take insulin, just for perspective, a three month supply of insulin for a type 1 is almost $1,000. And with more and more people on high-deductible plans, you have to come up with that $1,000 multiple times a year before you've met your deductible and the insurance starts paying for anything.)

And to James, Joyce, Valentine Lady and others, I do appreciate how much you care about this site and want to protect it. But I do want to ask for a little more compassionate approach when it comes to an appeal like this. While we've had (sadly) far too much experience with Indian love potion spammers and snake oil salesmen peddling the latest diabetes "cure," I think lumping someone who says they have diabetes and are down on their luck into the same category seems a bit harsh. Tyler (like 99.9% of the people on the internet) probably didn't scour the Terms of Use before he joined. And if he is in desperate financial circumstances because of his diabetes, there is probably a ton of great information that we could share with him here that could help him deal with the difficulties he's facing. But when we come down too harshly on someone like this, they likely won't stick around and get the help they could find here.

Now just to be clear, this is not an endorsement of his gofundme campaign. An abundance of caution is always in order when choosing where to offer charitable help. (And Tyler just a word of advice, your gofundme page is so sparse, it doesn't give someone a lot to go on when trying to decide if your story and need is real.) However, I think when someone presents themselves as a fellow diabetic, let's treat them as we would hope to be treated especially if we were the one struggling to pay for life-saving medications and supplies.

Finally, Tyler, here's a great article about the many programs and resources out there to help you pay for your supplies and meds.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-10-27 12:08:42 -0500 Report

Gabby said she was going to get clarification because the Terms of Use does not say donations. This is what it says

Under Terms of Use Prohibited Activities, Item 3 CLEARLY STATES:
Posting or transmitting unauthorized or unsolicited advertising, promotional materials, or any other forms of solicitation to other users. (Inquiries regarding a commercial relationship with Alliance Health should be made through our contact form.)

Any other forms of solicitation includes asking for donations for anything. Asking for donations of financial support for medical supplies and even walk-a-thons are covered because asking for donations is a form of solicitation.

GabbyPA 2014-10-27 05:48:05 -0500 Report

I love the "gofundme" folks. They are doing some great things. Have you tried to get it out on your FaceBook page or twitter? Those things will help also. That is what we are doing for a friend of mine who needs help with her cancer treatment payments. Is your request for every month or a one time thing?

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-10-26 20:15:35 -0500 Report

Hi Tyler,
unfortunately you have broken the rules here. I do understand
your plight but it can't be helped. You broke the Terms of Use
that you agreed to when you signed on here. If you're that destitute may I recommend you visit your local patient care, and they can help you or direct to agency that can help you. If your
not that destitute, shame on you.
Hope the best for you,
Valentine Lady

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-10-26 19:31:25 -0500 Report

Diabetes is an expensive disease, however you cannot ask for donations on this site. If you need assistance, with supplies, contact the pharmaceutical company that makes your supplies. If you have health insurance, some of them will help you get supplies. A lot of people need financial help but the Terms of Service clearly states that you cannot ask for donations on this site.

GabbyPA 2014-10-27 06:15:34 -0500 Report

No, it does not. I am getting clarification on this. No where does it say you cannot ask for donations.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-10-27 12:05:54 -0500 Report

Here is your clarification. Under Terms of Use Prohibited Activities, Item 3 CLEARLY STATES:
Posting or transmitting unauthorized or unsolicited advertising, promotional materials, or any other forms of solicitation to other users. (Inquiries regarding a commercial relationship with Alliance Health should be made through our contact form.)

Any other forms of solicitation includes asking for donations for anything.

jayabee52 2014-10-26 15:41:18 -0500 Report

Howdy Tyler
WELCOME to Diabetic connect

When you signed up to DC you agreed to the Terms of Use. Part of the TOU says you may not ask for or receive donations. There are a lot of folks here who are also in dire straits financially and they have not received donations. There is no way to determine someone's true need, so the TOU discourages asking for donations.

Sorry to be the bearer of ill tidings.


GabbyPA 2014-10-27 06:13:14 -0500 Report

It doesn't specifically say donations, and while it is a form of solicitation, we have had other people here doing walk-a-thons and other diabetic related things asking for donations. I have asked for some clarification on this issue.

Our community is much more than just rules and it breaks my heart to see the first comments here to be so visceral. You can report a post without making them feel so crappy for asking. It's not like our India people who are spammers. It was a mistake. What kind of heart could you have shown that would have encouraged him as well?

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-10-27 12:17:25 -0500 Report

Yes the community is much more than rules but you do not own this site, therefore you have to abide by the rules set forth. Why would you send money to someone simply because they said they are participating in a walk-a-thon? I am not saying they are not doing this but you have no proof they are doing it. Time and time again the Better Business Bureau ask people NOT to send money for online solicitations. I don't personally know anyone on this site nor am I saying that they are not actually walking and scamming someone. Before I send them a penny, I will make a donation to the American Diabetes Association which is legitimate.

You don't know if Tyler really needs financial help. I am not saying he doesn't or that he is being dishonest. How can you say we are being crabby or question what kind of heart any of us have. The thing is people are protecting their identity which can be stolen if you send this person a check. He was given information on how to seek the help he needs without anyone giving him any money. As a PA you should know better than that. I reported the post and I told him where to go to seek help.

No it does not say donations but it does say solicitation which is what asking for a donation means. You are soliciting funds no matter how it is said and soliciting is a violation of the Terms of Use.