I'm Confused.

By MicNeil Latest Reply 2014-10-17 09:02:21 -0500
Started 2014-10-16 03:16:48 -0500

Haven't been on the Board in awhile due to the chaos of of Alaskan Summer. 24 hr daylight makes you feel like you should be doing something all the time…as well as rushing to get everything ready for winter…so computer time is shortened.

Hit a snag and hoping someone here might have some related experience. Doc called me in after my last A1c because"he was baffled". My A1c is down to 6.0…from 6.5 A1c five months ago. That was the good News. However, my blood insulin was reading 340 (he said normal was 50 - 60). So this was showing extreme insulin resistance…my pancreas was flooding my system with insulin. He said that extreme flood of insulin to my system is what causes problems for diabetics. So even tho my A1c reading is down below what is considered diabetic, I'm still pre-diabetic because of this high blood insulin reading.

He wanted to know what I was doing differently…Nothing: same diet, same exercise,…Never had to take medicine for diabetes…just controlled with diet and exercise. Am always fatigued, which I have been for a long time. Have been having spine and hip pain which I'm having looking into but no results yet. (Previously diagnosed with degenerating spine…no big deal - whose isn't by the time they reach 70 yrs ) Had my annual Carotid check and apparently I'm needing those cleaned out here shortly. Had been on a short antibiotic series for bronchial flareup.

Trying to figure this out. Every time I google high blood insulin or insulin resistance, I get a bunch of info about blood sugar…which isn't what I'm looking for. Does anyone know what a 340 reading of pancreatic insulin into the blood means?? …anyone had this experience…any ideas on how to correct it?

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jayabee52 2014-10-16 13:27:11 -0500 Report

Howdy Mic
My late wife said that she had it just before she developed diabetes. I didn't quiz her further about it, but she said her Dr said it was the last hurrah from her pancreas before it "burned out"

I never thought to ask if she was T1 or T2, but I suspect she was T1 as she took a quite a lot of insulin, Up to 40 u NPH twice daily plus two insulins for which her Endo prescribed with sliding scales if her BG levels were 200 + mg/dl.

Of course she also had Lupis which really messes with one's body and joints, which is why I believe she was T1.

God's best to you Moc


MicNeil 2014-10-17 03:19:41 -0500 Report

James, am so sorry about your wife. That's scarey what her Doc said about it being her pancreas's last hurrah. Haven't needed insulin and A1c is low compared to what it was a few months back. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

GabbyPA 2014-10-16 08:43:21 -0500 Report

This is a very interesting discussion. I don't know how to do that, didn't even know that a doctor would do this on any kind of general test. I will look into it and see.

MicNeil 2014-10-16 11:26:27 -0500 Report

Gabby, I just went in for a normal blood draw for an A1c. I thought it strange that my A1c reading was down (6.0) while this insulin reading was way waaaaaay up above normal . Appreciate your looking into it. I've not been able to find anything.

GabbyPA 2014-10-16 11:38:26 -0500 Report

Here are some things I found:
Hyperinsulinemia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinsulinemia
This is very interesting and might explain a "pre-diabetic" diagnosis that could be 100% incorrect.
And one more, this one touches on a fatty liver. http://www.liverdoctor.com/could-you-have-high-blood-insulin/

MicNeil 2014-10-17 04:26:55 -0500 Report

Gabby, can't thank you enough for these excellent links. I was getting nowhere with my searches. You just must know the correct way to ask. ^-^

Wanted to order everything recommended…then decided I should email links to my Doc. Am very fortunate to have a Doc who treats me as a partner in any medical treatment and appreciates online research contributions.

One question I would like an answer to is …If hyperinsulinemia is caused or related to High Blood Glucose or vis versa, then why is my A1c going down instead of up?

Another question,…If hyperinsulinemia and hypothyroidism are linked, could medically throwing my system into HYPER thyroidism help normalize the hyperinsulinemia. I do have very sluggish thyroid since I'm on 120mg/daily of Amour Thyro (usual doseage is 30mg/daily).

Thanks again for taking time to look this up for me. It helped.

GabbyPA 2014-10-17 06:03:30 -0500 Report

Have you had any lows since your A1c has dropped? Sometimes some extra lows in that time frame can cause an A1c to look good. Specially if you maybe exercised extra and your body used up some glucose along with the extra push from the insulin. I am not a doctor and cannot say what is going on, but those are some things to look at to see if they can help your doctor figure it out.

Your thyroid is linked to everything hormonal, and insulin is a hormone. A lot of times I think we get treated for the wrong thing. But again, I don't really know except from what I read. Perhaps treating the insulin issue will help with the thyroid one or vice versa?

I would be very interested to see what your doctor says and how you find treatment on this. The trick may be not to approach it as diabetes but as a hormone issue.

MicNeil 2014-10-17 09:02:21 -0500 Report

Yes, I have had extra lows these last few months…and some VERY low. Good News…I found the best solution: TRUFFLES!!. You know, those little gold foil wrapped Rocha balls. :-) Picks me right up in nothing flat. LOL

Your thinking seems quite logical to me. Will let you know what Doc says.

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