How Often Do You Eat?

By Pegsy Latest Reply 2014-10-01 15:29:21 -0500
Started 2014-09-19 16:21:37 -0500

I would really like to hear from type 2 diabetics, not on insulin, who may or may not take oral medications. How often do you eat each day? My first dietitian told me to eat every 3 hours. Breakfast, snack, lunch, snack, dinner, snack. This is just way too much food for me. She also had me consuming way too many carbs at meals. Then another dietitian reduced my carb intake by quite a bit and said that I should eat every 4 to 5 hours to prevent the liver from dumping glucose into my system. She even suggested waking up to eat in the middle of the night to take a small snack. I really didn't like doing that! I have been following a 4 hour schedule, eating around 6am, 10am, 2pm, 6pm and a bedtime snack around 9 or 10pm. This also feels like too much food. Yet another dietitian has told me that eating 3 meals per day (more than 5 hours apart) with a bedtime snack is just fine. Every other dietitian has been adamant about that bedtime snack. Good grief!

My doctor has been of little help on this other than to refer me to yet another dietitian. All she cares about is my A1c and Metformin dosage. I am a small person so I don't have a huge appetite. But I need to eat enough food at breakfast and dinner to be able to handle the Metformin. If I take it with too little food I will have digestive issues. I would prefer to eat fewer times per day but not if it is going to cause my liver to dump glucose into my body and make it more difficult to have good control.

So I am asking, what works for you?

68 replies

PetiePal 2014-09-29 11:15:34 -0500 Report

Type II for about 4 years here.

I eat three square meals a day. Usually lighter breakfast because I tend to have higher "dawn effect" sugars," normal lunch and a regular dinner. If my sugars are good in the evening I'll have a snack sometimes mainly because it helps me to have a lower morning sugar.

If I DON'T eat three meals metformin/Glumetza can wreak some havoc on my stomach.

Pegsy 2014-09-29 15:45:51 -0500 Report

I am now down to 3 meals per day with a light snack before bed and my numbers are much lower now, even in the morning. The "dawn effect" is still higher than it should be but much lower than it was. Like you, cannot take metformin without a substantial amount of food. I am hoping to be able to reduce the metformin soon.

gypsy65 2014-09-29 11:07:03 -0500 Report

hi, new here, just signed up.
could it be that shes not really asking you to have major meals with snacks in between, but to 'nibble through the day and have a balanced 'nibble at meal times? my daughter does that, although she isnt diabetic. i recently found out i am type 2 and have been on metformin, losartan and farxiga. during the day, i usually nibble on almonds, and try to have more veggies and fruit with more activity. my sugar average has gone down, but have yet to have another blood test for the other (AC1) number. hope this helps

Pegsy 2014-09-29 15:48:12 -0500 Report

I'm glad this works for you and your daughter. If I nibble all day I will gain weight and have high numbers all day long. I'm doing much better now on 3 meals and just one snack in the evening. Thank you for your input. This is certainly an individualized disease, isn't it?

gypsy65 2014-09-29 17:36:38 -0500 Report

it is very individualized. i'm glad to hear you're getting it under control.
i was working at a very physical job till about 2009. since then i had 3 major operations, a couple of smaller procedures and a lot of recuperation. after was doing a lot of therapy and gym work, and about 2 years ago found out the hard way had 5 bad disks, and now need back fusion on 3 vert. i'm not telling you this for any kind of sympathy or such, since this is just part of growing up, but when i had to stop being physical and active is when this diabetes seemed to develop (less than a year ago). for the 5 years of operations+ my blood was tested often for everything (including diabetes, my father had it) and nothing ever showed up. now i'm trying to get as active as i can and it does seem to help. i also have changed some of my diet, having more fresh veggies and fruit.i was told that i 'may' be able to more normal after my back surgery and start getting physical again. we'll see. good luck

Chopstix 2014-09-26 12:09:17 -0500 Report

It depends on the mood I'm in and how hungry I feel. Like right now, it's almost 1300 and I've been up since before 0800 and have only had two cups of coffee with cinnamon. The rest of the day it will be water or warm water with turmeric, cinnamon, ginger and apple cider vinegar in it. I did go into the kitchen to prepare something but my skin started hurting too much. That's what happens when you have had surgery and the weather changes. All the other places I was cut don't hurt, just where my chest was opened. But most of the time I eat breakfast and dinner. Depending on what I had for dinner I might eat a snack before bed which is usually peanut butter or cheese on whole wheat toast. When I feel myself starting to get low I will grab some kind of snack.

brudio 2014-09-25 04:30:59 -0500 Report

I do not see a dietitian until next month my work schedule will make it very hard to be on a normal eating schedule my glucose is different every day and was test in the morning before eating. It is never the same, sometimes will go almost nine hours before I eat anything, try to tell my boss that I can not work nites because I need to eat at a certain time so I can take my meds 5 different ones at supper time when ever that will be, so hard to figure out what my eating my schedule should be.

Pegsy 2014-09-26 19:39:25 -0500 Report

My work schedule makes it hard to eat on a regular schedule as well but I have found a way to work around it. You do what you can!

last of the red hot grandmas
last of the red hot grandmas 2014-09-24 08:14:51 -0500 Report

The dietician in the hospital told me the same thing. It was too much food and I am not a small person. I try to eat breakfast in the morning, usually a bowl of cereal. Then I eat when I am hungry or start to feel ill during the day. My sugars have been running between 80 and 125 for the last couple of weeks. Yesterday I forgot to take my pills in the morning and didn't eat until around 5pm and my sugar was 230. I won't be doing that again. I am on Metformin twice a day and tradjenta in the morning. I keep a log of my sugar levels and what I ate to know what makes it go up (pasta) and down (exercise and a salad).

Pegsy 2014-09-24 08:38:59 -0500 Report

I can't eat cereal. It spikes me every time. I would love to have my glucose as low as yours on a regular basis. Congratulations! I once had a morning like the day you just described. We were getting ready to leave for a trip and planned to stop for breakfast on the road. It took longer to get ready than I expected so I didn't eat and take my meds until almost noon. My glucose was over 280 when I tested just before eating. Like you, I won't be doing that again!

last of the red hot grandmas
last of the red hot grandmas 2014-09-24 09:00:33 -0500 Report

We used to be able to get away without eating all day or eating late in the day. I guess those days are done. It is so easy to be consumed with trying to get places and get things done that we put off eating til a little later and that can become hours or a whole day.

Shawn Grant
Shawn Grant 2014-09-23 16:49:59 -0500 Report

I eat 3 meals a day and rarely snack. I need to keep my weight up so I eat a lot of fat to keep my calories up. I avoid the before bed snack. I learned when I eat something before bed my sugar was higher in the morning. If I didn't eat my sugar was an elevated normal. I am not on any medication.

Pegsy 2014-09-23 20:16:33 -0500 Report

Thank you for sharing, Shawn. I'm getting lower glucose in the morning by not snacking right before bed. The opposite of what I was told to do!

MewElla 2014-09-23 09:10:09 -0500 Report

I really make it a point to stay on a four hour schedule with my eating. It makes all the difference in the world to me feel making me feel good and it really keeps my testing of the bg"s right in line.

Pegsy 2014-09-23 13:08:42 -0500 Report

I stopped with the schedule and decided to just eat when I am hungry with the exception of breakfast which I have as soon as I get up, in order to take my medication. What I am finding is that my body seems to be naturally desiring a 4 hour schedule. However, there are times when I go longer, such as when we eat out and I have a large meal. I am just not hungry four hours later. So far I have not gone longer than 6 hours with the exception of overnight. I feel much more relaxed now that I am not trying to keep up with a rigid schedule. That brings my glucose down all by itself. I'm having a great week with these changes. Looking forward to my next A1c result next month.

Chopstix 2014-09-26 12:15:05 -0500 Report

Like I always say: What works for me may not work for you. One of the hardest things is finding out what works and what doesn't. Finding something that works makes you feel better 'bout yourself…

lorider70 2014-09-22 15:37:44 -0500 Report

I eat 3 times a day. Breakfast around 7; lunch around 11; and dinner around 4. Seldom, if ever , snack on anything. Drink water during the day; coffee in the mornings, 1 lite beer in the evening. I have dysphagia and therefore some difficulty swallowing and due to that, get little enjoyment from eating…just mainly do it 'cause I have to.

Pegsy 2014-09-22 19:42:20 -0500 Report

So sorry that you suffer from dysphagia. That must be really tough. Thank you for sharing with me what works for you. I may eventually eliminate all snacks. I'm just not hungry for them and skipping is certainly not doing my numbers any harm.

lorider70 2014-09-23 16:54:28 -0500 Report

Thank you for the reply. They have told me that throat dilation would help a lot with the dysphagis; but that it would likely have to be repeated every 3 or 4 months and I don't like that idea at all. I don't like any procedure involving my mouth or throat and there is always a risk something will not go as planned and make things worse. It's an inherited thing in my family, having been a problem for my mother and grand mother and probably others before them. The biggest trouble with it is that having to eat very slowly gets you full faster and if you stop eating at that point; the result is on going weight loss and some strength along with it. I am 71 yrs old, 5'9" and 135 lbs. I was 216 at one time in the late 80's.
would like to get back to around 160; but probably won't happen.

Pegsy 2014-09-23 20:22:17 -0500 Report

A good friend of mine recently had her throat dilated. She said the procedure wasn't bad at all and it has helped her a great deal. I don't know if she has to repeat it or not. Just my opinion but you might consider having it done once and see how that goes. You may find that the benefits are so great that you wouldn't mind repeating it. Or you may find that it doesn't help enough to endure it on such a regular basis. But at least you would know.

jNaZr 2014-09-22 11:24:54 -0500 Report

You will know your body better. How do you feel with different meal options? I eat 6 times a day as you previously described. The snacks for me have to be very small but they help out so I don't binge. I use myfitness pal as a calorie tracker and it breaks down my carbs for me giving a percentage of diet by carbs, fat and protein. Try it out. I take sugar free metimucil after every major meal. That helps keep me feel full. I drink a protein shake (water instead of milk) in the afternoon for my snack. It counts as eating. That is a boost on all my nutrients. It also makes my commute home more pleasant because I'm not crashing out. I'd love to tell you more about how I balance out my meal goals if you are interested.

Pegsy 2014-09-22 19:35:15 -0500 Report

I am now down to just 3 meals and one snack per day and feeling much better. I actually experience hunger again and my readings have been a lot lower. I am very pleased with these changes. Thank you for sharing your experience and what works for you.

GabbyPA 2014-09-22 06:53:48 -0500 Report

Are any of these ways working for you? The key is to find what helps you get the numbers you want.

I am a grazer, and can graze through the day, But that can be dangerous if I don't choose well. I can also go all morning without a bite and not eat until almost lunch time. I tried the routine, 3 meals 2 snacks, but I would find that I obsessed about my meals and snacks and it ran my life.

I am trying right now to be more like my husband. He's good at listening to what his body tells him, as far a when to eat. (definitely not WHAT to eat, if you know what I mean. LOL)

Any plan I use, I have to be very low carb. I get into trouble when I have a carb heavy meal mixed in my day...that messes me up for a long time. Keeping it consistent meal to meal helps, but my breakfast is always better to be very low carb.

Pegsy 2014-10-01 15:29:21 -0500 Report

I agree, Gabby. I have to keep it pretty low carb. What seems to be working for me right now is breakfast at 6, lunch at noon, dinner at 6 and if my glucose is good and low in the evening I may have a high protein snack around 8. On weekends when that schedule gets thrown off, I may have a very small snack during the day. This pattern has really brought my glucose down and I expect my doctor to be very pleased with a much lower A1c in a couple of weeks. My glucose actually gets below 100 sometimes, with these changes!

Love17! 2014-09-21 09:41:38 -0500 Report

For me if I don't eat every 3 hours I'm A Real Mess:(

Madigan 2014-10-01 15:10:07 -0500 Report

I am hypoglycemic so I get that way if I don't eat every four hour's. Its not a good feeling , so I usually eat within four hour's . If I know I am going to be running errands etc.. I put a snack in my bag , usually something healthy. Maybe a handful of grapes or crackers and a small bottle of water.

rolly123 2014-09-20 18:43:03 -0500 Report

A journey of what u eat and carb and cal then when u high u know why i take journey and know mistakw but still high ! Take what everyone advice y it helps alot y got take what learn put ir to use hope u do good with u sugar

Pegsy 2014-09-20 18:45:35 -0500 Report

Thanks Valerie, I'm having a great day with my numbers so far and I am really enjoying the freedom of not having such a rigid schedule to follow. I'm so glad I asked the question. I love learning from other people's experiences.

Brenin 2014-09-20 15:24:39 -0500 Report

My doctor and dietician wanted me to eat all day long (that's what it felt like)… I only eat when I'm experiencing hunger now.

Pegsy 2014-09-20 15:35:40 -0500 Report

That's what it feels like to me too. So far today, I am eating according to hunger and watching my numbers closely. I don't see any difference at all. It felt kind of good to actually experience hunger before lunch.

Brenin 2014-09-20 15:48:59 -0500 Report

OMG! RIGHT??? I'd forgotten what it felt like to be hungry and actually WANT to eat something. I do the same thing, I watch my numbers and eat when I'm hungry. My numbers have steadily been coming down since July…but that is also due to the fact that I'm no longer taking HCTZ which elevates ones bs.

rolly123 2014-09-20 18:35:21 -0500 Report

Good for u Brenim u exsperence hunger im seen eat four times three and snack got talk to sitian my number arnt coming down !

Brenin 2014-09-21 14:04:14 -0500 Report

I don't think my numbers would be coming down like they are if I was still on that med. God knows how high it was jacking my sugar.

Pegsy 2014-09-21 16:35:21 -0500 Report

I was prescribed HCTZ briefly and I should not have been. I had a horrible reaction to it and stopping it suddenly caused all sorts of problems too. I wasn't diabetic at the time but I can't help wonder if it contributed in some small way.

Brenin 2014-09-21 18:57:35 -0500 Report

Everything I've read about HCTZ and researched regarding it… it all comes back to diabetics shouldn't be on it and it's the straw that breaks the camel's back in most pre-diabetics. Makes me wonder where I'd be today if it hadn't been prescribed. I was on it for 4 years during my pre- diabetic phase and was taking fairly high levels of it.

Pegsy 2014-09-20 16:41:01 -0500 Report

Normally I would eat about 4 hours after my last meal. I just tested at 5 hours and my glucose was 114. This is good! I'm going to wait another hour and test again. I'm so excited!

haoleboy 2014-09-19 19:04:35 -0500 Report

if you are not waking with high bgl's in the morning (and are type 2) I see absolutely no reason to eat a snack at bedtime.
If you are experiencing highs you are more likely to be experiencing 'rebound hyperglycemia' which is your bodies response to nocturnal hypoglycemia if that is the case (and you can check by testing 4-6 hours after going to sleep) then a NO CARB snack might help. A snack that is fat and/or protein based (like cheese) as the glucose is much slower to release than in carb based snacks.
in case it needs to be said … this is what works for m and is in no way intended to be medical advice

Pegsy 2014-09-19 20:19:33 -0500 Report

It doesn't need to be said. I do understand. My morning fasting numbers are always the highest of the day and even though they have come down, they are still higher than they should be. My bedtime snack has always been a single carb serving with protein. I think I'll skip the carb for a while and see what effect it has. I really like aasmith56's idea of keeping a diary, at least for a while. It's hard to remember otherwise.

I'm still hoping to hear your story about the 16 hour daily fast. ;~)

Glucerna 2014-09-20 17:34:46 -0500 Report

Since there isn't one specific way of eating that works for every person with diabetes, keeping a diary of what you're eating, when you're eating, and your blood sugar numbers is going to help you find the eating schedule that is the best for you. You're making a really good start with this! ~Lynn @Glucerna

Nick1962 2014-09-19 18:47:58 -0500 Report

I pretty much snack/eat all day and rarely sit down to a “meal”. My meals are typically half of what you’d normally consider a meal, and that is simply because by eating a handful of nuts every hour or two, I’m pretty much satisfied all day long and I don’t get spikes from trying to consume a lot of food at one time. I pair my intake with my activity.

That 3/day pattern was great for our farming ancestors, but what we do daily is so different now. I think most dieticians still cling to that notion that we need to consume X amount of food at certain strict intervals rather than (at least for me) just feeding as you go and just enough to keep the hunger away.
Like Joyce says, no law says you have to eat more than you want, or when to do it.

Pegsy 2014-09-19 20:12:44 -0500 Report

Interesting thoughts on our farming ancestors. You are right that our daily routine is so much different. I'm a pretty active person. I own a women's fitness club so get a LOT of exercise but I still do not experience hunger or the need for so much food that these dietitians prescribed. I'm just going to experiment and trust my instincts (along with my glucose meter) and see what happens.

I like your idea of "just enough to keep the hunger away". Following what the dietitians have recommended for me, I never actually feel hungry. I would like to change that.

Nick1962 2014-09-20 18:32:18 -0500 Report

I think we’ve been taught how to feed ourselves from outdated principles. I “drive” a computer 5 days a week. My meter told me I really don’t need a full blown meal to do that. Great data comes out of that little box if you interpret it right. Weekends and chores, that’s a different story.

Like you I follow a modified paleo diet and have kept my A1c between 4.9 and 5.2 for a few years now, not to mention lost 120 lbs. and have all my labs in the normal range with only a minimal pharmaceutical assist for blood pressure.

I’m rarely hungry, but did do the night snack for several years until I got my body “trained”. Your mileage may vary.

Pegsy 2014-09-20 18:40:14 -0500 Report

I like the idea that I may yet be able to retrain my body. I would be ecstatic if I could get my glucose below 6 and keep it there. The lowest I've been since diagnosis was 6.6 but it went back up when I left "my" food plan for what the dietitians recommended. My doctor told me to go back to what I was doing (yay!) so we'll see what my next A1c is next month.

Congratulations on your weight loss. It's a great accomplishment. Especially for someone who "drives" a computer all day, LOL. When I had a desk job is when I was at my heaviest. Never again. I need the freedom to move my body as much as possible.

Nick1962 2014-09-20 19:03:12 -0500 Report

It may take a few months - patience my dear - to see some real A1c results. You kind of have to get your body to trust you again. I think you seem to have found the common sense here - if you're hungry, eat (don't gorge), if not, check your meter and see if a small bite is in order.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-09-19 18:32:00 -0500 Report

I eat 3 meals a day with snacks. I think you were told to ask your doctor how many carbs per meal you can have.

You have to eat based on your needs not based on what everyone else is doing.

Ask your doctor why she won't work with you. If she tries to brush you off speak up for yourself.

My dietitian does not change my doctors orders. You have to figure out when you should schedule when to eat and if you know how to count carbs you don't need to keep going to a dietitian. My dietitian is my neighbor and good friend. We changes my meal plan when I get bored. Thankfully I know how many carbs I can have and I eat what I want when I want to eat.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-09-19 18:29:49 -0500 Report

I eat 3 meals a day with snacks. I think you were told to ask your doctor how many carbs per meal you can have.

You have to eat based on your needs not based on what everyone else is doing.

Ask your doctor why she won't work with you. If she tries to brush you off speak up for yourself.

My dietitian does not change my doctors orders. You have to figure out when you should schedule when to eat and if you know how to count carbs you don't need to keep going to a dietitian. My dietitian is my neighbor and good friend. We changes my meal plan when I get bored. Thankfully I know how many carbs I can have and I eat what I want when I want to eat.

Pegsy 2014-09-19 20:08:16 -0500 Report

My doctor knows that I follow a semi-paleo diet and thinks I'm doing a great job. She has not given me any dietary orders other than to stop the middle of the night snack. She approves of the diet I was already following before I came to see her. It just never occurred to me to ask her about the timing of my meals until now. I don't see her for another month. I've stopped seeing dietitians and I am working on my own to figure out what works best for me. I'm just curious what others do that is effective for them. I enjoy learning from other people's experiences as well as my own.

haoleboy 2014-09-19 17:30:43 -0500 Report

link to a study that found eating two larger meals a day maybe better than 6 smaller … YMMV


Pegsy 2014-09-19 18:23:54 -0500 Report

Thanks Steve. I downloaded the article and will study it later on. So many different opinions out there. It's kinda overwhelming!

haoleboy 2014-09-19 18:30:42 -0500 Report

It takes time to find exactly what works for you. I feel that I am closing in on finally understanding what I need to do to achieve my goals (normal/ideal weight, A1c, blood pressure and cholesterol levels with as little medication as possible … A1c is the last to fall in place).

Pegsy 2014-09-19 19:59:06 -0500 Report

I'm grateful that I am not dealing with BP and cholesterol issues as well. Just the glucose thing (for now). I know i am doing better with my glucose than I was but I also know there is much room for improvement.

Pegsy 2014-09-19 20:23:59 -0500 Report

BP was an issue when I was so overweight but not any longer. I never took medication for it. While I was losing weight my cholesterol was bad. My doctor kept trying to get me on meds for it but I resisted. Now that I have reached my goal weight, cholesterol is no longer an issue. BONUS yes! I am so glad to have beaten those parts of the metabolic syndrome mess.

aasmith56 2014-09-19 17:19:03 -0500 Report

Oh forgot to add snacking at night is silly, while sleeping your numbers will usually go up. Check you numbers in the morning after a snack at night and try again without a snack, let the numbers guide you.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-09-19 18:39:29 -0500 Report

Yeah I can see how silly that would be since eating the wrong snack can raise blood sugar and not eating a snack could cause a liver dump and raise your numbers. I eat a snack with protein every night before bed and my numbers are anywhere between 85 and 90 in the morning. Who knew that eating a snack before bed was silly?

aasmith56 2014-09-19 18:50:48 -0500 Report

Thank you for showing me why I usually don't offer up an opinion. Sorry for my use of the word silly.

jayabee52 2014-09-20 04:03:36 -0500 Report

Howdy AA.
Don't let what Joyce said put you off of responding here. Your suggestion to journal was well received and sometimes I may say something others take offense to or think my response is wierd or silly.

Please continue posting as we'd like as many voices and opinions possible be brought out.


Pegsy 2014-09-19 19:55:28 -0500 Report

LOL, well I happen to agree with you. It WAS silly. Definitely did not have the desired effect. The middle of the night snack, I mean. Not the bedtime snack. :~)

Pegsy 2014-09-19 18:26:35 -0500 Report

While I was following the middle of the night snack advice I had pretty high numbers in the morning. While they are still too high they are much lower now that I have stopped that practice. It was crazy. She actually had me setting an alarm to wake up and snack. Then I had trouble going back to sleep. I start my day pretty early so this was not working for me. As I have said many times before, stress and sleep have a greater impact on my glucose than anything else. I sleep much better now and I have lower morning numbers to show for it.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-09-19 18:35:32 -0500 Report

Why would you wake up to eat a snack in the middle of the night. Try eating a protein before bed and you shouldn't have a problem. Protein prevents liver dumps at night which prevents high numbers.

Pegsy 2014-09-19 19:54:14 -0500 Report

Thanks Joyce. That's pretty much the same thing that James said. i will give that a try tonight.

aasmith56 2014-09-19 17:15:33 -0500 Report

I would say try keeping a journal for a week eating they way that you feel comfortable with. Make sure to list your numbers before and after meals and if you find them to be acceptable then you are good to go, if find you are crashing into the low numbers then add a small snack between meals, I like to eat things like FiberOne bars as a snack, they are light, easy to keep around and I try to get whatever has a high fiber count above 4. Its mainly about the quality of the carbs at each meal more than anything, good carbs in small portions. I don't like to eat so many times a day but my calorie intake is the same as 3 regular meals, and I am able to control my numbers this way, a lot of trial and error. A good dietician who understands all this who is also diabetic taught me to journal everything and see what works for me, also with the carb intake per meal. I was told 30 per meal 15 per snack, this doesn't always work based on the meal I make. So I alternate based on my journal, Sorry for being so long winded but hope this helps.

Pegsy 2014-09-19 18:37:04 -0500 Report

I think the journal is a great idea. And I will follow a schedule I feel comfortable with. As I said, I have to eat an early breakfast because I cannot take the Metformin on an empty stomach. My doctor wants me to take it first thing in the morning. My breakfast is usually a high protein smoothie. I may start trying to delay the smoothie for an hour or so and see what happens. I usually snack on fruit and cheese. If I am out and about I will carry a KIND bar to snack on if I need to. I am hungriest at lunch time and I am learning to make that my largest meal of the day. Even though I usually prepare a big dinner for my husband, I don't eat much of it. Especially if I have an afternoon snack, I am just not very hungry at that time. Sometimes I have to force myself to eat in order to take the Metformin. The bedtime snack is usually more fruit and cheese or toast with cheese. If I am not hungry at all it may just be a cup of milk. My numbers NEVER go too low. Rarely are they ever below 100. I think this is in part because I have been eating so frequently. I am going to try a 6am, noon, 6pm, 9pm schedule and see what happens. I seem to do best with 15-20 carbs per meal and snack works for me. If I consume more than that, I spike. Every time. I don't think you were long winded at all. This is the kind of input I was hoping for. :~)

haoleboy 2014-09-19 16:58:29 -0500 Report

First meal of the day is usually around 2 pm, second about 7 pm (I try to get at least a 16 hour fasting period in every day)
My morning dose of Metformin (500 mg 2x daily) is always taken on an empty stomach.
In my totally non-medical opinion … non-insulin dependent type 2's with good control worry way to much about dawn phenomenon and the Somogyi effect
This all based on my experiences dealing with type 2 for the past 7 years.


Pegsy 2014-09-19 18:48:10 -0500 Report

Steve, I always appreciate your input. Your experience is very valuable. It appears to me that the foods you eat are similar to mine. Mostly veggies and protein, some fruit. I do consume small quantities of milk on occasion and I do eat some whole grain bread each day. I drink water, almond milk, and lot of green tea.

How I wish I could get away with fasting that long every day. I really would feel best eating around 11am or 12 for my first meal. All of my life I have felt hungriest around noon time and I have never really enjoyed an early breakfast. I don't care for the bedtime snack either. After dinner I feel like I should be "done".

Would you please elaborate on the 16 hour fast every day? What caused you to try that approach in the first place. (Perhaps it was the study you posted earlier that I haven't had the chance to read yet.)

My Metformin dose is 1000mg @ breakfast and dinner. I would very much like to decrease it or even eliminate it, if possible. It does cause digestive issues if I am not very careful to take it with a considerable amount of food.

Thanks again for your input. I really appreciate you. You make a lot of sense. :~)