How the hell do you people consume enough carbs every day without spiking your BS?

Phoenix Eye
By Phoenix Eye Latest Reply 2014-09-19 16:46:10 -0500
Started 2014-09-14 18:31:26 -0500

I can't seem to eat many carbs at one sitting. I tried the straight grilled chicken salad without croutons. I crashed hard and put more carbs in like oatmeal for breakfast. However I cannot take milk with my oatmeal, only almond milk. A half sandwich or half cup of brown rice for lunch always works. However I tend to try and eat only grilled chicken salad for dinner. I basically cannot eat more than 30 grain or milk derived carbs per meal without spiking. The one exception is store bought dried soba noodles. Should I try and eat starchy vegetables like corn, peas or sweet potatoes?

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aasmith56 2014-09-19 16:46:10 -0500 Report

Like many have replied everyone reacts differently to the carbs they are eating, I find keeping a list of different meals does help and then I am able to refer to it to menu plan. My biggest problem is my levels like to drop to low, so I do my best to keep snacks close by that I can start munching on an 1 1/2 or so after my meal, helps a lot of the time. Key is to write it down and set your goal at a certain number post meal. I try to stay under 170 as this number works well for me. If I don't get near that I crash if I forget to snack. Its ok to spike after eating within an acceptable number. Ask your Dr. or nutritionist what is acceptable. Good luck

Type1Lou 2014-09-18 09:30:29 -0500 Report

Like many have already stated, you need to find the carbohydrate level that works for YOU. For me, I limit my daily carbs to 120 grams (30 for breakfast and 45 each for lunch and dinner.) and my last A1c was 6.6. I count the Total Carbs in all of the foods I eat, not just the "starchy" carbs. My breakfast of RyeCrisp bread, fruit and plain Greek yogurt along with the milk in my coffee all contribute to the carbs. My lunch is usually an apple with all natural peanut butter (carb count will depend upon the size of the apple along with the 4 tbsps of PB) and my dinner foods will vary. We are all different in how we metabolize our food and age, gender and activity levels also play a significant role.

GabbyPA 2014-09-16 06:18:06 -0500 Report

Actually if you can keep the carb counts similar in each meal, it helps. Try not to have a heavy carb meal. Also testing to find out what spikes you more can help you plan better. I know corn is really hard on me. No matter how little carb value I consume, it spikes me. So I tend to avoid it. It sounds like milk might be one of your "foods to avoid"

What I did that helped me a lot was to keep a journal of everything I ate. I would take a pre meal reading and try to eat meals where I could accurately calculate and determine my spike foods. It takes a long time to find the patterns but it is helpful in food choices down the road.

It can also show you food combinations that work or not. Like I found I could eat ice cream if I put raw nuts in it. I also found that I cannot eat any other ice cream but Bluebell Homemade Vanilla. So you will find out good things and bad things in this journal time.

Pegsy 2014-09-15 17:07:11 -0500 Report

I consume between 11 & 20 grams of carb per meal or snack and manage to keep my glucose under 130 two hours post, most of the time. I do not count the carbs in most vegetables but I do count the carbs in corn, peas, carrots, tomato and potatoes. I find that sweet potatoes don't spike as much as white potatoes and the potatoes with smooth skins (such as red potatoes) don't spike as much as russets. I no longer eat any cereal, including oatmeal. I do eat brown rice in very small quantity on occasion. Pasta is a complete no-no for me.

The dietician I met with recommended way too many carbs for me. If I tried to eat the 2-3 servings per meal that she recommended, I would be on a lot more medication. My goal is to eventually be off all medication, eventually.

I hope this helps.

John Crowley
John CrowleyCA 2014-09-15 16:35:04 -0500 Report

Well, let's be clear here. If you eat any carbs at all, your blood sugar is going to rise. So let's first get some clarity around what you mean when you say "spiking your BS." The generally accepted goal is to keep your 2-hour post meal blood sugar under 180 (some sources say under 150).

But it's important to understand that even for someone without diabetes, their post-meal blood sugar will go up. So the only meal plan that doesn't include a post-meal blood sugar rise is one with essentially zero carbs.

So then, the really important question is what kind of "spikes" are you seeing after you eat? What goal are you trying to hit and what treatments are you currently taking?

haoleboy 2014-09-15 18:25:14 -0500 Report

good point John. We can expect a rise in BGL after eating most anything, even zero carbs as both protein and fat will increase glucose (eventually).
For me a "spike" is a rise in levels above my "targeted norm".

debcox 2014-09-15 10:55:18 -0500 Report

You definitely have to see what works for you.

I have a breakfast of green tea with two slices of toast and two tablespoons of peanut butter on each slice which is approximately 34 carbs. If I'm getting ready to go on a bike ride, I include a medium sliced peach which is about 11 carbs. I always have my glucose tablets in my bike pouch, along with a cup of orange juice and a cheese stick which I take about halfway through my ride, if I need it.

I have a snack around 9am of about 25 carbs. For lunch, I have a can of Progresso soup with 5-10 crackers which is about 54 carbs. I wait about 90 minutes and then do my 30 exercise video.

For dinner, I have whatever my family is having (adjusted to my carb level). I have a snack around 8pm of green tea and to graham crackers. I'm not up late to snack any more as I get up at 5am to ride my bike and I'm ready for bed by 9pm.

I try to keep my carbs between 200-225 a day and I rarely have spikes. This last week, I've been dealing with hypoglycemia because my levels have been between 72-95. I'm waiting for my doctor to call to decrease my insulin so I don't have to eat breakfast before my ride. I'd rather have it after my ride but I don't like when my levels drop. This weekend was not fun as I was eating much to keep my levels up.

jayabee52 2014-09-15 00:34:47 -0500 Report

Howdy PE
You ask "Should I try and eat starchy vegetables like corn, peas or sweet potatoes?" My answer: Only if you wish to spike your BG (blood glucose) levels worse than they are already!.

I avoid all bread and grain carbs (including oatmeal) like the plague and likewise I avoid the starchy veggies as well. I had been on twice daily injections of NPH (medium acting) insulin, but now manage my T2 diabetes by a meal plan which I have developed. If you think this might be of interest to you, please ask and I will send you a link to the discussion where my meal plan is written up.

God's best to you

kimfing 2014-09-14 22:36:08 -0500 Report

I cannot really go above 30 carbs per meal without a spike, even if i cover all carbs with insulin. I try not to have two grain sources per meal. Sweet potato works really well for me, i always put cinnamon on it.

Glucerna 2014-09-14 21:38:20 -0500 Report

I know it's frustrating, but there really isn't one set amount of carbohydrate, or foods that contain carbohydrate, that works well for each person. If you haven't tried starchy vegetables, you could experiment with them and see how they affect you. ~Lynn @Glucerna

haoleboy 2014-09-14 19:38:38 -0500 Report

ideally I try to stay under 50 carbs for the whole day … usually in 2 meals.
I can't touch corn but sweet potato in smaller portions is not a deal breaker for me. experiment and see what works