Healthcare Petition

By alwaystryin Latest Reply 2009-04-13 17:25:39 -0500
Started 2009-04-13 09:22:05 -0500

Here is a link to digitally sign a petition containing language aimed at legally putting an end to this mess!

8 replies

alwaystryin 2009-04-13 15:54:48 -0500 Report

It appears I need to state that the 'wording' is indeed off track in many ways, and in no way do I agree with it totally. But does that mean we should do nothing as far as a petition goes? I agree in principle with the idea.

kdroberts 2009-04-13 15:49:40 -0500 Report

How would doing all of that actually help? I think if the government did all those things it would be a catastrophe for the country. For one, you can't wipe out over 1.3 million jobs and expect everything to be peachy. To give you an idea, that number is half the number of the TOTAL job losses in 2008. You eliminate all those at essentially the same time, the economic situation now will look like the good times.

It was kind of funny. As I was reading it I was thinking it read like a manifesto of somebody who wanted to push herbal medicine rather than somebody who wanted to make the healthcare system better. Then when I got to the bottom and saw that it was authored by the editor of it all became clear. Some things make sense and I agree with, most is not logical though.

Desdemona 2009-04-13 14:47:19 -0500 Report

Sorry, no can do. While there are parts of this that I do agree with (alternative medicines/ weight loss programs paid for as healthcare benefits), some of these points are asinine at best and at worst have the potential to contribute to the resurgence of devastating diseases that have been considered as erradicated. Your decision to expose your child to these diseases and their potentially deadly effects is on your conscious- but you don't have the right to expose MY child to the results of your negligence. Not to mention that this calls for you to be able to go to ANYONE for 'healthcare'-no licensure/training required,which opens up a vast potential for fraud. No, this is not a viable proposal for those two points alone.Rewrite it ,remove these points, and it might have some promise.

alwaystryin 2009-04-13 14:53:32 -0500 Report

And you gratefully at least make the point for a discussion, at the very least, on the matter. Of course, you SHOULD have access to the best care available. The choice is yours to make ALWAYS. Something along this lines can do nothing if open and further the discussion.

This 'disease' is not only that. It is an epidemic, and if you check the Webster's definition for 'Plaque', both as a Noun and Verb, if that is not Diabetes, then what is?

Although I respectfully disagree with your harsh and maybe narrow view, may we agree to disagree and get the ball rolling?

And when you state "Your decision to expose your child to these diseases and their potentially deadly effects is on your conscious", what the heck does that mean, and I trully hope you are not specifically talking about my situation, which you have no knowledge of.

And what piece of Legislation in it's first Authoring is worth a hill of beans.

Desdemona 2009-04-13 15:09:05 -0500 Report

The 'your' in this case, is not personal- rather a global usage. What I mean, is that the decision to fail to vaccinate a child does not end with that child- it affects everyone that child comes into contact with- potentially speading deadly disease to others, in a chain reaction that is ,indeed, a 'plague'.Diabetes is indeed a real and growing problem. I deal with it every day, every minute, every second of my life. However- noone should encourage, much less facilitate, seeking help for any serious health concerns from charletans who do not maintain licensure and for whom there are no repercussions for their potentially harmful actions.

alwaystryin 2009-04-13 15:23:05 -0500 Report

It should, again, be left to the individual where and whom to get care from. I certainly would not, nor I am sure you would either, seek help from someone not CAPABLE.

Desdemona 2009-04-13 17:25:39 -0500 Report

Frankly, I seldom seek help from anyone except for the endo, CDE, or my GP when it pertains to health care. The decision to chose a provider is a personal one, I agree, but the fact remains that a certain segment of our populace must continue to be protected from those who would promise the moon and stars and deliver only confetti. That's what licensure is all about- competence,accountability, and responsibility. How can you hold a layperson accountable for their actions when they advise someone about healthcare? You can't, and that's the bottom line. There are always going to be those who take advantage of the more gullible amongst us- and we have to protect those people through licensure. Do you really want your tax dollars to go to some quack who peddles laitrile(?sp?) or the like?
No matter how much we would like to believe that everyone wants the best for us- there are some who don't give a care.
IF something more realistic were to come to the table, authored and supported by a reputable source,I would wholeheartedly support healthcare reform. It is sorely needed.

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