By lebella Latest Reply 2012-06-20 19:07:32 -0500
Started 2009-04-12 07:53:17 -0500

I just read an article by Julia Hanf who is selling a system that stops the need for meds for diabetics. She says her system tells you about a sweetener used in China and other country's that is better than what we use here. That it even can reduce the need for meds. Has any one herd of this sweetener or is it jusy a scam.

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red flower lady
red flower lady 2012-06-16 18:39:41 -0500 Report

You know, I was wondering why this person hasn't answered my question and now know why. This was posted 4/12/09! I guess someone was wandering around the site and found this and didn't notice the date?

red flower lady
red flower lady 2012-06-15 18:23:40 -0500 Report

What is it called? I have to agree with old biker. If it was true then the ADA and diabetic drs, etc would be talking about it!

JustCallMeFinn 2012-06-20 19:07:32 -0500 Report

This is not necessarily true. The entire world except for the US treats high sugar by using the glycemic index. The ADA does not push the glycemic index. And my doctor just smiles when I tell her about the alternative products I take. That is except Cinnamon which she said she heard it works. Our health care system is rank 23rd in the world. So don't think our doctors are on top of everything. We used to be number 1, now we are number 23.

JustCallMeFinn 2012-06-15 18:30:19 -0500 Report

What is what called?

red flower lady
red flower lady 2012-06-15 20:58:22 -0500 Report

In the above discussion it is mentioned a system as well as a sweetner, hence the question. What is the name for both:)

JustCallMeFinn 2012-06-16 10:50:13 -0500 Report

I tried to do some research on a sweetener in China but could not find anything. There is Stevia which I do not like the aftertaste. I used Agave Nectar. It is low glycemic.

No system you can read my long post to see what I do. I have some supplements that work great for me. I each a low glycemic diet. I exercise. For those of you that have you favorite high glycemic food that you have a hard time giving up here is a trick to make it low glycemic. Eat it after a large low glycemic meal. Then it will have to take it's time digesting and you have forced it to digest slowly which ultimately makes it act like a low glycemic food. All meats, fish, most vegetables are low glycemic. The big bad high glycemics are white and wheat bread, most crackers, pretzels, popcorn and potatoes. Sweet potatoes are a medium glycemic. I would be very happy to answer any question on the glycemic indexs if someone wants to start a new discussion.

JustCallMeFinn 2012-06-15 17:37:31 -0500 Report

Also if you want a good low glycemic sweetner use Agave Nectar. But remember product alone will not do all the work. You have to eat right, low glycemic food, and exercise and lose the extra weight around the belly. When my weight goes down my levels consistently go lower also.

JustCallMeFinn 2012-06-15 17:34:05 -0500 Report

Hello Lebella, Actually I took Melabic for several years. It worked very well to help keep my levels down. But they never delivered my last order and I cannot get a response back from Julia. That said I went out and bought every item in the ingredients on the back of their bottle very similar to what "rankrs" takes but I was having glucose level problems. So I went back to some of the basics. And my levels are now back to 100 to 110. Let me state that I take Metformin but I was never able to get my levels below 180 with just Metformin.

I take in pill, Cinnamon, Banaba Leave Extract, Gymnema in pill form, plus I drink a Gymnema tea I get at Best Nutrition online. I must tell you my blood can be up high and I drink the tea and it will knock it down my 30 points within a 1/2 hour.

I also take Alpha Lipoic Acid and Acetyl L-Carnitine to help with neuropathy which I got from having my levels so high for so long. Mainly my feet go numb if my level stays high. Don't take the Acetyl L-Carnitine at night, it gives you energy also so you might not sleep. Take it in at breakfast and lunch.

I also strictly follow the Glycemic Index and I stay away from High Glycemic foods which will spike your sugar. Worst is white bread. Wheat bread is bad also. Multigrain is better. High Glycemic food digest fast and raises your levels, low glycemic digest slowly so levels do not rise.

I actually found a great site Julian Bakery that makes breads with a net 2 grams of carbs. One bread guarantees not to raise your levels and it works. I get their smart carb #1, purity bread and Manna from Heaven bread. All net 2 grams of carbs. They taste great when toasted.

I have been working on this a long time and studying everything I can. Because I love bread. Love a nice bagel, a nice baquette but I can not have them. Maybe a multigrain bagel.

Now my A1C is 6 which is normal. And with those products above and following a low glycemic diet I have levels of 100 to 110 and two hours after my meal around 135 and then it will go back to 100 to 110. Normal is 80 to 100 and 120 two hours after your meal. So I am close. And I can only do this with the products I get, the tea I drink, the special breads and a low glycemic diet.

Hope this helps

rankrs 2011-07-20 15:35:42 -0500 Report

Diagnose w/ diabetes on June 1, 20011. A1C 13.6; glucose 390. Started doing a lot exercise, change diet (last meal is about 6:00PM), and using supplements (cinnamon, fenugreek, bitter melon, gmynema, chromium..). Also went to ayurvedic herbalist who told me that my liver is hot, so, she gave me herbs to make a tea, which I did for one month. So far did not use any medication. In 2 months+ glucose level is from 160-190, and stedy going down. Hope in a month or two will be under 120, and at that time will go again for a lab test to check A1C, cholesterole, etc.

Antique-Dave 2010-01-01 21:38:32 -0600 Report

My main goal with vitamins and supplements has only been to improve insulin sensitivity and inhibit glycation.

to that end I'm satisfied, when researching all of the possibilities it became pretty obvious quickly that the prepackaged high priced diabetic miracle pills were designed to nothing more then separate you from your money. They don't have enough in them to be beneficial.

maybe nothing like that can work for your D, maybe evening primrose oil, or ACV or gymnema might or a combination but like everything else with us its an experiment to see what works in our unique D bodies.

lebella 2009-04-12 14:53:25 -0500 Report

Thanks every one for there reply's. It is no surprise, I thought that if it was that good there would be more people talking about it. Its a sorry world where people try to sell you a sure thing when it"s not even a maybe thing. People are out to make money off of people's problems and all they do is make more problems for them. Thanks again. Bill

Deb-G 2010-01-01 20:50:07 -0600 Report

For sure type 2's can reduce the need for medication but there's no miracle cure for sure…

You find the same thing in the weight loss forums…People pushing miracle cures to lose weight…

Unfortunately it takes good old fashion hard work :(

and type 1's…well…that just is what it is…

rbergman 2009-04-12 10:19:15 -0500 Report

Many type 2 diabetics can reduce the usage of medication to control their diabetes. My father, for example, when first diagnosed was on insulin shots, he changed his diet and exercise plan, and eventually was able to control it with pills instead of insulin, he continued to take care of himself and his diabetes and eventually controlled his diabetes with diet alone. However, type 1 diabetics do not ever have this option in their lives. Type 1 means the pancreas no longer produces any insulin or such minute amounts that insulin injections are required, this will not change unless they actually find a cure.
There are all sorts of gimmicks out there that cost you money only to not work in the end. It's like fad diets and such, sure they sound good but 9 times out of 10 they prove faulty or don't work at all.
I say, keep your money in your pocket and don't fall for "systems that really work"!
Also, I wanted to add, I'm Native American, and there are many many holistic remedies that my culture uses, however even we do not have a "system that works" for diabetes and in fact are the leading ethnic group when it comes to having diabetes, if after all these years Natives couldn't do it I seriously doubt the scam artists can do it.

kdroberts 2009-04-12 08:33:13 -0500 Report

There are plenty of ways to not take diabetic medications, but not everyone is able to do that though, it will depend on your bodies ability to produce insulin. I have my opinion on the person you reference, it's not a high one, so I won't comment. However, this is a comment left from one of her articles. I think it sums up people like her.

"I bought Julia Hanf. She was so convincing. It was such a disappointment when i started receiving her emails. They are empty of any worthy content and totally useless and at the end of each page it diorects your to buy her supplement.

It is really cruel to play with someone who has a condition and looked to you in all innocence for help.

I would like to warn other innocent diabetics to beware of Julia Hanf."

alwaystryin 2009-04-12 08:24:37 -0500 Report

what is the name of the sweetener?

kdroberts 2009-04-12 08:36:56 -0500 Report

If it's the same thing she's been pushing for a while, it's Melabic. Nothing more than a multivitamin type of thing that is expensive and cannot do the things she says it can.