Do we do what right

By rolly123 Latest Reply 2014-07-17 21:17:58 -0500
Started 2014-07-13 10:22:35 -0500

I was with friends and topic was if we know something we can't have because our disease or bad for us do we eat drink smoke when Docter tells us we must not do this? I kept quiet because I do it eat sweets some time drink when I know it effect me badly! Like with group I ate ten cookies with frosting on it twenty small tootsi roll and ten small bites size bars and icecream reg soda !! I felt high blurred vision when I got home headache so took my sugar it was 457 I was emotional drain felt like giving up as anyone done this !!

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lindainJapan 2014-07-13 23:21:37 -0500 Report

Rolly, you may be needing some professional counseling if you sugar binge inspite of knowing the consequences. If you are secretly eating behind the backs of family that would hope to encourage you to eat "to live" by eating right then you may need a stronger diet support group. Is there an over eaters anonymous you might join? Is there a pal you can turn to every day to talk about your food plans and call in an emergency when you are tempted to hurt yourself with sweets? I find in myself that eating carbs makes me crave carbs and completely filling up with proteins and fats with a Dr Bernstein diet or a Dr Atkins first week diet helps me not even want sweets, fruit and snacks. My low HbA1c, my loss of weight and healthy life is so worth the lack of carbs. Save yourself before your kidneys, eyes or feet are lost!! Get well and stay well, Rolly, my friend.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-07-13 18:43:49 -0500 Report

Rolly I have to be straight with you. All of what happened is your fault. Stop treating diabetes like it is a game you can win. You will lose. Don't ask do we do what is right. You want us to buy into what you did. Stop trying to get us to help you justify your eating all the junk you ate.

Never in my entire life have I ever eaten 10 frosted cookies, ten bite size bars, or twenty small tootsie rolls, ice cream and reg soda. You can be as emotional as you want to be. You should because you seem to enjoy playing Russian Roulette with your health.

Just because you were with friends does not justify what you did. They did not hold a gun to your head and force that food into your mouth. you did it of your own free will.

Do not bother with what our doctors tell us we can or cannot do. Concern yourself with what your doctor told you. Do you realize that with your blood sugar that high you should have gone to the ER?

I have a friend who suffers from high blood pressure who eats all of the wrong things then complains that her blood pressure is high and she doesn't know what to do. I told her go get a gun and blow your brains out. It will kill you quicker and will be less painful because high blood pressure will kill you in the end. When her blood pressure shot up and didn't come down, she ended up in the hospital. Doctor told her she was a stroke waiting to happen. She changed what she ate. Did I feel sorry for her? Absolutely not. I do not feel sorry for people who are on the road to self destruction.

You ate all of that junk. You and only you are responsible for what you did and if you continue to do so, the blurred vision will turn into loss vision. I fully understand that you have other problems in life but at some point you have to grow up and take responsibility for your diabetes and stop trying to justify what you do. Knowing what you did was wrong yet you CHOSE to do it anyway is not being responsible for your health.

The next time you are out with friends, eat what you know you should eat. You are too old to let peer pressure get to you. You have to ask yourself how valuable is your health and life to you. Put a price tag on it. If you value it, your choice would be priceless.

My advice to you is to get to a registered dietitian ASAP let her help you with a meal plan. If it means moving heaven and earth to stick to it. Move heaven and earth. Good luck to you.

Bun10 2014-07-17 15:32:21 -0500 Report

Joyce! Harsh, harsh, harsh! Told your friend to go get a gun and blow her brains out???? Really??? Your last paragraph is all you had to say. Do you see a counselor?

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-07-17 19:26:45 -0500 Report

Really???? YES really. She is MY friend. We don't sugar coat anything we say to each other and we have been friends for about 30 years. She is the friend who will tell me that a new dress I bought is not for me in no uncertain terms. If one of us got in trouble the other would be there with bail money.

So if you don't like what I said to MY friend, that is on you. Believe me if she read what you said, I can guarantee you would not like her response so before you jump down my throat because you didn't like what I said, remember I said it to MY friend not to you or anyone else on this site. You should also remember that what you said to me is not at all important to me. This is why I choose my friends in real life very carefully. I weed out people who are easily offended or thin skinned because they simply do not fit in with many of my friends.

rolly123 2014-07-17 19:57:33 -0500 Report

Joyce I appreciate what u say. Because u don't sugar coat I got to work yes it's hard resist but working on it! I write down everything I eat yes everything try improve next day! Got app with Ditian in aug 26 can't get any sooner! I watch video about carb exercise three time day most done home in years sugar high but make adjustment during day. I read over what everyone writes a lot so I don't forget thks

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-07-17 21:17:58 -0500 Report

Rolly these things take time. You are trying. Some people won't do that. You know all of us who have responded to you did so to help you take that first step of getting yourself on track.

All you have to do is be patient. Things are not going to happen over night. Before you know it, you will be managing your diabetes and you will realize you can do this. Good luck.

diabeticdummy 2014-07-13 13:32:38 -0500 Report

Rolly, Do you want a sugar coating answer or the reality of situation well if sugar coated answer quit reading now, first my thoughts then my story.
first off it's your disease own it, second you know you shouldn't eat that crap so don't, quit blaming peer pressure and don't wanna hurt others feelings to bad you have diabetes you need low carbs and no sugar if your friends don't realize this and still push it on you then not very good friends or family but its your choice yes its a change and it's hard but it can be done millions of people do it daily if your that weak and easy to bend maybe some therapy to cope with the issues would help you but it's all in your hands you wanna kill yourself keep on truckin your doin good job if not then just say no like others have said bring your own healthy snacks and drinks meals choose the lowest carb meal on the menu who cares what others think you need to be healthy for you not them.
my story I'll try to sum it up a little i was diagnosed Aug 2012 was in denial and just like you did what i wanted to do well in Nov 2012 ended up in ICU for 3 months dka coded once and was brought back, my sugar levels were so high in er the lab was only ones who could count it at over 1000 decided to change my ways well it was a huge haul for me as I'm farm raised and was very athletic so i ate enough food at meals to feed 3 people but my work and lifting kept the weight off but after diag with t2 and ICU didn't have the energy to work or workout but still ate the same thought insulin would fix it WRONG fast forward couple months now its June 2013 and have so far had 4 surgeries and 2 trips to ICU and spent so far 6 months out of last 7 in hospital fast forward to Nov 2013 have spent another 3 months in hospital and tons of Dr appointments the complications have almost killed me again but I'm eating healthier now and feeling better so I'm getting there forward to Jan 2014 just had 6th surgery and 2nd trip to icu all due to my mismanagement of t2 and stupidity in my thinking this was no big deal march 2014 got put on insulin pump and had 7th surgery doing better but will probably never walk unassisted again ever will see next surgery June 2014 had 8th surgery almost died on the table was technically dead 17 minutes to many surgeries and the amount of pain medicine i;m on caused that issue and they had to cut more muscle than they thought they would well I'm back at home still unable to walk correctly and not on my own at all going thru physical therapy now i eat right my bg levels are very good now my a1c is right at 6 was somewhere around 14-16 when all this first started I'm on my second pic line to administer medicine directly to heart as veins will not last in arms with iv treatments at home twice a day hope to get this one removed next month as long as everything keeps going well i hope you the best i paid for my ignorance and stupidity and i will never do that again and i try to pass along that to people i meet like you who used to be me allot of people on this website have helped me out with advise and prayer and i am truly thankful for that but even with there advice and prayer if i didn't myself make the choices ii did to quit well i wouldn't be writing this to you now with that i have not given up all my vices totally as with my current situation Dr has let me keep smoking as i was very depressed giving up a total life change almost overnight i didn't get the slow progression most get now i have cut back on smoking to just when i really want one my Dr says we will get all this fixed and dialed in then tackle the smoking but i only smoke a pack every week now was a pack a day so I'm trying to wing them over time I've come a long way in 2 yrs you can to. I'm shure i left some d etails out but you can get the jist of my 2.5 yr dance with t2 and waking up from my ignorance.

ReaderReader12 2014-07-14 22:00:29 -0500 Report

Wow…your post is amazing and so are you. I wish you the best. I learned about a year ago I was t2 and I was very ashamed of myself. For about a year before going to the Dr. I thought I might have diabetes…but if I don't go and find out for sure then I can stay in denial. So now it is out in the open I am owning it and trying to learn as much as possible. In the last couple of weeks I have made some huge changes in what I eat and I am very happy about that. Never thought I could do something so grown up (as in taking care of myself). Reading what you wrote to Rolly123 inspires me as well to stick with what I am doing and keep being positive. Thanks again for your honest post.

diabeticdummy 2014-07-14 22:18:48 -0500 Report

Well after almost dyeing twice on an operating table and once in ICU and my struggles due to my denial and ignorance I try to share and inspire people before they go down the road I did it was not fun at all almost over ad I am 200% on top of this t2 thing still learning everyday but there is reason god wants me to still he here maybe this is why I'm glad you have gotten on the right track keep up the good work it does get easier if you don't fight it I have learned but over the last year I have put together a great diabetic team for me tried many Dr till I found ones that work well with me and care about my needs not just a trial and error Dr but I have a great endo, PC Dr, dietician, nephrologist, urinary dr, gastro intestinal dr, and general surgeon, diabetes educator and her classes at hospital and support group for my family so they understand me and my issues better and they nice thing is they are not afraid to work with none another like if I go to lab I call and tell them to add there ticket to my lab day so I do one trip every 3-4 months to lab and every Dr gets updated labs two of them ask for same things so one just faxes results to other I try to limit. Needle sticks one of many reasons I love my pump

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-07-13 18:44:57 -0500 Report

Diabeticdummy I don't know whether to applaud you or hug you or both. Great response. Sugar coating is not the way to go. Sometimes being direct and to the point will get people to listen.

diabeticdummy 2014-07-13 20:06:11 -0500 Report

i do not sugar coat i am direct and to the point it offends some people but those are the people that hide in life and blame everyone else when i got dx i did not blame anybody was shocked as i do not fit the typical profile of a diabetic and no family history of it so i denied it and ignored it well t2 didn't like that and got me good since then my ways have changed and i'm almost on the right path the last couple years have been rough on me but that was my fault and stupidity but i'm learning and doing way better now i hope no one ever has to go thru what i went thru to see the light thats why i have no problem sharing my story of t2 and my stupid thinking in the beginning, but you can have a great big hug glad you can eat now i told everyone after your surgery now you can have gerber graduates lol

rolly123 2014-07-13 15:30:10 -0500 Report

Thanks u apsolutely right I got take my own blame I don't want be on dylisis or emergency room again was their a lot thank reminding me what happens I didn't go surgeries but came close coma in past I forget these thing I'm going do it right I need start over learning things how u got down I got mine down but wrong way don't want depend on insulin

diabeticdummy 2014-07-13 16:04:24 -0500 Report

well i know everyone here has good advice and willing to lend that advice now i know not everything works the same for everyone or we would be a boring species if we were all the same but take there knowledge apply it and tweak it to work for you i mean if i can do it it cant be that hard as i was a stubborn individual i was king well i was kicked into the ground and given a reality check now I'm a changed man but I'm probably the man i was supposed to be to begin with a suggestion when you get the earge to cheat instead of buying food go buy something for yourself 1 it gets your mind off food 2 its a reward i go buy fishing and hunting gear I'll spend hours looking and then sometimes i don't have enough for what i want so i save it up till i have what i want or sometimes i just go down to the pond and read usually end up falling asleep but i didn't cheat after awhile your mind will click and you will see your ways have just changed

haoleboy 2014-07-13 16:03:49 -0500 Report

Not much I could add to what DD has said.
however …

I know this sounds overly simplistic but it works for me:
You do not have to give up the "bad foods" forever …

I have been successfully giving up "bad foods" as well as smoking and drinking JUST RIGHT NOW for several years. It is easier to do if you remove the "bad foods" from your house and avoid situations (and friends) that encourage (or enable) your weakness for junk foods; keep healthy foods easily accessible … In other words make healthy eating easy and eating junk hard.

Type1Lou 2014-07-13 11:41:22 -0500 Report

Rolly, you chose to eat all that stuff even though you know you shouldn't. Why is that? You have within you the power to make the right choices and no-one else can make those choices for you. I'm not saying it's easy. I'm not a saint and I occasionally will indulge in something I shouldn't. I'll eat one square of dark chocolate with a dollop of all natural peanut butter as a treat…but I don't eat the whole bag or bar of chocolate! Only you decide what you put in your mouth or leave on the table. Do you care enough about your health and about how you feel to make those hard decisions? If you find the strength to do so, you'll feel better physically and also, better about yourself. It's time for YOU to take control.

rolly123 2014-07-13 12:09:11 -0500 Report

Lou I do want take control I'm not sure where to start I've done wrong all my life being diabetic. I saw what did to two Peaple I love

ReaderReader12 2014-07-14 22:12:05 -0500 Report

Hi Rolly I am new to this site and new to acting like a grown up when it comes to what I eat. Sad but true. I am trying a ton of new low-carb recipes from the cookbook from this site. All the ones that I have tried are really good and both my partner and I are eating them. I also got a fudge recipe from a family member that uses a sugar sub that is mentioned in the same cookbook. It is wonderful and I have not bought any of my trigger foods while grocery shopping at all. In fact I have one Peanut Butter M & M an orange one on the floor of my car. It sits there out of the way so I don't step on it and make a mess. I look at it every day and say out loud "you do not have power over me anymore". lol Silly I know..but I need to do it for right now. Know that you are worth any changes you can make. I am trying to do that as well. Good luck.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-07-13 18:53:10 -0500 Report

Rolly you are not the only diabetic who has done wrong. Don't ever say you have done wrong all your life. Make today the day you start saying I am going to do right when it comes to my diabetes.

Make today the first day of the rest of your life. Right now you have to give up ALL cookies, candy, ice cream and soda and replace it with Sugar Free Jello and Puddings and water. You can add crystal light packets to water to give you flavor and the sweetness you seek. Sit down and start a food journal and list every thing you eat for each meal. Look at it and learn where you can make changes. The mashed potatoes can be replaced with mashed sweet potato with some cinnamon sprinkled on it. Cookies can be replaced with whole wheat or multi-grain crackers with some cheese.

I didn't add any real cookies, candy or ice cream to my diet for the first year and a half that I was diabetic. I now eat three cookies or a small sliver of cake or pie based on what my numbers are. I will eat a real candy bar from time to time but I always make sure I eat it in the middle of the day and then take a walk.

YOU have to learn to help yourself and you have to learn self control. NOT one person here can give you that but we can cheer you on with each new milestone you complete.

rolly123 2014-07-13 12:58:02 -0500 Report

Finish what I said saw my mom die dylisis complication and in on my father side grandparent and dad brothers of that side all died diabetics complicating I still didn't effect me but when kidney Docter told me if don't get sugar down a1c to a 6 I will be on dylisis yes that scared me. I got it a 6 but now old habit creep back and want do it right way help

Type1Lou 2014-07-13 15:19:07 -0500 Report

Rolly, you didn't get where you are overnight. You know what you need to do but take it one step at a time. If you fall off the wagon, get right back up and maybe you wont fall so often. Wishing you the strength to make those right decisions.

rolly123 2014-07-13 18:54:19 -0500 Report

Lou it took seven month I needed good number I took extra insulin I never did a diabetic diet or carbs I went to Ditian for twenty minuets she gave me anything tried follow carb but got confused about it I m going back but gotta make it is carbs best way

Type1Lou 2014-07-14 07:46:56 -0500 Report

I found that low-carb was the answer for me to gain control. Also James (jayabee52) has been able to wean himself off medications and control his diabetes by following a low-carb diet. The turning point for me was reading dr Richard Bernstein's book "Diabetes Solution" back in the early 2000's. (A friend "forced" it on me and I felt obligated to read it and am now so thankful I did. I do eat more carbs than advocated by Dr Bernstein but found the level that works for me. Some here can eat more, and some eat less than I do. I limit myself to 120 grams per day and I do miss the breads and pastries and cakes and cookies I used to make, but I decided my health and quality of life was more important. When I do occasionally eat bread now, it is one or two slices of the thin sliced bread. When I make desserts, I go for lower-carb alternatives (not necessarily low-calorie, but low-carb). If you set your mind to it, you can do it!…and don't let others intimidate you or guilt you. If I'm at a friend's and she brings out a yummy dessert that I know I shouldn't have, I'll either explain that I can't have any due to dietary restrictions, or, if I do, it is one small bite to only taste it (but I find it easier to not have any than to stop after just one small bite.)

rolly123 2014-07-13 11:21:52 -0500 Report

How did u not do it !! Are y type 1 or type2 ? Is sugar fast in morning that 125 136 145 155 good number for morning! For last week I been running it last month that was my number every morning will that raise aic levels

Dr Gary
Dr GaryCA 2014-07-13 11:00:41 -0500 Report

Hi rolly,

Nice to see you, my friend.

I know it's hard to go out with friends, and not indulge along with them. Especially hard when they are eating things you really enjoy, and eating a lot of those things.

But think of the consequences! Blurred vision, numbers through the roof... and the long term effect on your health. Not worth it.

The truth of the matter is that eating that much sugar isn't good for anybody, regardless of whether they are diabetic. So how about showing off what a healthy eater you are? Maybe you can set an example for them. You might also bring along something healthy for you to snack on. You might let them know ahead of time that you want to follow your diet and ask them to support you, and not push cookies and candy in your direction.

Any of those ideas sound like potential winners?

It's great to hear from you. I appreciate your honesty.

Take good care of yourself!


rolly123 2014-07-13 11:28:06 -0500 Report

That's sound great I don't like going out with Peaple r I love up north I'm in booney I have just me and my second mom and her family deal with my emotion runs high but eat in secret and eat good with family but I'm comfortable with them eat normal with them they buy me sweets and don't want feel ungrateful what should I do how can I start voicing my needs when I want it or can't say no how can I start fresh help

Bun10 2014-07-17 15:51:30 -0500 Report

I know how it goes when someone offers you something you can't eat. Usually, I can just say that isn't exactly at the top of my diabetic diet and laugh. If they can't take no for an answer, I'll put both hands up and say, "No, really I can't" If they make something especially for me and I feel guilty, I'll might say, "that looks absolutely heavenly!! Let me just taste a bite but That is so not from Diabetic Living! lol" That came up only once when someone made something especially for my birthday. Try to stop eating anything white and pay attention to portions. Portion Control is the key. Always eat on a salad plate!! Never from a dinner plate. You are your best monitor!!!

kimfing 2014-07-13 10:30:53 -0500 Report

Don't mean to sound harsh, but what did you expectto happen?! That is exactly why i don't do it. Don't like feeling like that. A treat would have been one cookie OR one mini candy OR… NOT all. I am sure once your blood sugar came down you felt better emotionally and can pick up and move on and get back on track.

rolly123 2014-07-13 10:39:29 -0500 Report

When woke up felt better! But this isn't new with me! When get with Peaple i do this and when nobody around I do a little bit my sugar is good because I fast and drink lots water insulin feel insulin free ticket to sweet I'm trying change my emotion get in way did u ever do that

Bun10 2014-07-17 15:55:34 -0500 Report

Once you get a handle on avoiding sweets, you actually won't crave them anymore. Gradually cut back and in a year you wont "need" it anymore. My problem was Boston Cream Donuts. I don't crave them now.

kimfing 2014-07-13 11:14:44 -0500 Report

Glad u feel better. No i don't do anything with straight sugar. Even the tiniest bit sends me over the edge. My treats are sf bit of candy one piece or one sf sugar wafer. We make low carb sf desserts but maybe once every two weeks. I don't emotional eat anymore or have hardly any cravings. Do i want some dulce de leche ice cream, yes, but don't cuz i know how i would feel.