Is it my imagination?

By Antique-Dave Latest Reply 2011-05-07 00:33:59 -0500
Started 2009-04-02 11:19:15 -0500

As I go through all of the information online about nutrition and diet it seems to me that there are more then a few conflicts between what is good for diabetes that may not be good for High Blood pressure that may not be good for your cholesterol that may not be good for … seems like a viscious circle and then there is all of the articles about how salt really doesn't affect high blood pressure.

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Seetiekins 2011-05-07 00:33:59 -0500 Report

I am also having trouble balancing my diet. And agree with the post that there is a lot of conflicting info out there for us. It's ok to eat this and then it's not ok. It's all very confusing. What is a body to do? And I'm so frustrated. Not to mention that I have a lot of other illnesses and I'm on a lot of medication. And I feel tired all the time.

Pauline B
Pauline B 2009-04-05 13:27:42 -0500 Report

I eat what I like in moderation and follow the labs very carefully, knowing that any day I may have to alter my diet. Have been type 2 for over 10 years, and have A1c of 5.6. Since several kinds of anemia plague me worse than diabetes I eat lots of red meat, and a recent calcium score showed that I had no calcium plaque in my heart I was relieved. Nutrition and diseased is an evolving field of study. I recently attended a seminar called "Molecular Cooking" that focused on creating favor and garnishments using chemical reactions to create gels similar to what Jell-0 is. While this is not what the home cook would go though to produce a family meal, the high-end chef would. While I generally advocate eating less-processed foods, I was amazed to see what could be done by roasting a large bunch of dill weed, pulvarizing it, and then infusing it into a foam that had no volume or mass. The bubbles dissipated as they hit one;s mouth. It tasted good on some Alaskan Wild Salmon.

kdroberts 2009-04-02 14:22:21 -0500 Report

Bottom line in medicine is evolutionary and right now we are no where near the mature phase yet. Essentially, we simply don't know. We don;t know for sure that a low fat diet is good for cholesterol or that cholesterol itself is bad. We don't know if a high sodium diet is what raises blood pressure. We really know next to nothing about diabetes in general. Everything is educated guesses based on current information. Most doctors are not specialists in everything and a lot of the newer information passes them by. This seems to be especially true when it comes to diabetes. We study and study and new bits of information come out.

Unfortunately it seems that the big influential organizations are fearful of admitting they may be wrong and are very slow in updating their policies and advice.

2009-04-02 11:55:36 -0500 Report

A plant-based diet is best for everyone regardless of their health problems, Diabetes, Cancer, High Blood Pressure or other coronary diseases etc… I know not everyone wants to be a vegetarian so include lean meats if you like. Fresh whole fruits, vegetables, whole grains, legumes, low fat dairy and lean meat would be a healthy diet for anyone and if everyone stuck to it, we'd see less and less disease all around. Things to limit but not omit from your daily meal plans (don't want to cause a binge!) Sugary foods, save them for special occasions and have a small serving, high fat foods, processed foods (if you need to read the label to see if it's ok to eat you probably should limit it's usage) and alcohol.

Just a simple take on a huge question

Antique-Dave 2009-04-02 13:52:27 -0500 Report

"if you need to read the label to see if it's ok to eat you probably should limit it's usage"

I'm reading the labels on everything right now, doesn't mean that I understand everything I'm reading (yet) though or how it might impact me.

2009-04-02 15:03:36 -0500 Report

I didn't mean you shouldn't read labels, you should. What I meant is that you should try to limit your consumption of processed foods in general.. foods in their natural, whole state are best for you. Example: Natural state = apple, processed state = apple juice or sauce.


John Crowley
John Crowley 2009-04-02 11:50:41 -0500 Report

There are certainly some things to watch out for when you try to eat low-carb to help control your diabetes. Just because a food is low-carb does not mean it is always healthy. Many low-carb foods are loaded with saturated fats and cholesterol.

But you can learn how to lower the carbs in your diet AND make wise choices. For me, I like to keep it pretty simple. Fresh vegetables and lean protein (chicken, turkey, fish) are the foundation of a healthy diet. When you choose carbs, choose small servings of whole grains or fresh fruits.

Great discussion topic.

Antique-Dave 2009-04-02 14:10:24 -0500 Report

When I look at lists of recommended foods they are for the most part things that I like and was eating anyways I just have to put more of it in my diet.

Drinking 2 pitchers of kool aid and eating a bag of chips and dip while watching TV well… that had to go by the wayside.

I told my wife that in terms of food I was going to add some new habits and drop some old ones. I understand that everyone is different as to how different foods affect them but what seems like conflicting information about whether they'll help or hurt makes it confusing when you are just starting out.

I think one of the things that I found conflicting information on was avacados, I'll go through my notes and try and post some examples.

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