Pet Peeves when it comes to "carbs"

By theladyiscrazy Latest Reply 2015-03-31 08:35:45 -0500
Started 2014-07-08 19:53:22 -0500

I have noticed this from doctors, diabetic class instructors, dieticians, other medical personnel, chefs, and just people in general. They classify what you should eat as follows:

protein (meat), fruits and veggies, then "carbs". Literally I have seen them say "your plate should have some lean meat, vegetables, and then a small helping of carbs".

Ahhhh, veggies are carbs! So is fruit! This is very confusing to people who are just dx OR to people that diabetics have to deal with. They don't think you have to count anything when it comes to vegetables and fruits, or things like beans, dairy, etc. Yet, as a diabetic, I have to consider the TOTAL amount of carbs I take in at a meal, not just the "other carb" category. KWIM?

It is just frustrating to me. I have had to educate many that food is broken down to protein, fat, and carbs. All food falls under at least one category.

Sorry, just aggravating and it honestly makes it harder to explain things when people hear the "professionals", in particular, say something that isn't 100% accurate.

45 replies

theladyiscrazy 2015-03-31 08:35:45 -0500 Report

This is still happening! The new 21 Day Fix, she has different containers for different foods you eat. There are ones for protein, one for fats, one for vegetables, one for fruit, and one for "carbs". REALLY? This does NOT help to get people to understand that fruits and veggies have carbs in them as well. OYE.

krioni 2014-07-15 00:02:45 -0500 Report

Honestly some fruits are high in fast carbs but I've noticed that a lot of veggies and some fruits break down so slowly that it hardly effects me. But it takes trial and error

mrsfoltz 2014-07-13 20:11:52 -0500 Report

I too am so confused! Was just diagnosed with type 2 & really don't know what is right & wrong!

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-07-14 09:34:42 -0500 Report

As the ladyiscrazy said there is no hard core right and wrong it is actually trial and error. She is correct. Diabetes is different for each person. It is never the same for everyone. Each of us had to find out what does and doesn't work for us. You have to do that also. You also have to commit yourself to taking care of your diabetes. I learned to be self sufficient so I don't have to depend on anyone to be supportive, motivating or inspiring. I do all of that on my own. This is my diabetes and I am not going to give others responsibility in helping me take care of it. That is why i have a medical team.

You have to become self educating and if you don't do that you will be lost. You have to first find out how many carbs you can have per meal/day. Your doctor can tell you that. Then talk to a registered dietitian who can help you with meals and healthier choices in foods to eat. Then attend a diabetes education class. Diabetes is only hard on people who choose to make it harder than it has to be. I didn't choose that option.

The easiest way to get started is with a food journal. Write down everything you eat for each meal. Use portion control. If one serving is 3/4 cup, eat 3/4 cup. I look at carbs and serving size. I also tested two hours after every meal which taught me what spiked my blood sugar. if you are not sure eat the food item alone, wait two hours then test.

My new doctor asked me how many times a day I test. I said when I get up, after each meal and before I go to bed. He prescribes 100 test strips a month. I actually test once a day or once every other day only because I now know what will spike me and what won't and because i am in very good control.

theladyiscrazy 2014-07-14 09:02:03 -0500 Report

Unfortunately, there isn't really a hard core "this is right, this is wrong" when it comes to diabetes. Yes, we much watch our carb intake and it can be really shocking when we track foods and realize just how many carbs we take in. Beyond that, it depends on each person. You have to find out what works for you. Honestly, often it is a trial by error type thing.

Pegsy 2014-07-12 15:02:09 -0500 Report

I too have found this to be very frustrating. I counseled with several dieticians and each one told me something completely different. I realized that it isn't an exact science. That each individual is different. What I found, that works for me are two books called "The Diabetes Miracle" and "The Metabolism Miracle" by Diane Kress. As a type 2 diabetic, I find her carb counting method to be easy to follow and remember and it has been more effective for me than any other dietician's advice. I'm sure the plan isn't perfect but it works for me.

rolly123 2014-07-11 07:20:12 -0500 Report

I agree with u it very confusing !!!! I wish it was one thing follow!!!! Being diabetic isn't easy a lot is confusing ex specially when u on vacation in fl with sister who don't have it and loves sweets we devoured four huge cookies how count that

Chopstix 2014-07-11 00:02:38 -0500 Report

Carb smarb! Read about it and thought it was a bunch of unnecessary crap. I just watch what I eat and when I eat. August 2013 I was taken off diabetic meds. No needles, no pills! But I still check my blood sugar regularly and it stays in the 90's to low 100's. I guess my 'tea' of cinnamon, ginger, turmeric, apple cider vinegar 2x day is working. Just went back to taking flaxseed oil also…

GabbyPA 2014-07-09 15:44:16 -0500 Report

I used to consider leafy greens pretty much free until I started juicing them. I was shocked. Kale is one of the highest carb counts of the greens. Its a good one, like Nick mentions, but I still had to take a step back and recalculate some things. I just never paid certain veggies like cucumbers and celery or lettuce much mind. I do now.

ADeangkinay 2014-07-10 22:09:34 -0500 Report

That's right. It has even more carb than carrots and peas. An ounce of kale contains 3+ carbs that's why I've really been careful on using it in my green juicing.

haoleboy 2014-07-09 21:00:50 -0500 Report

one of the draw backs to juicing is that a lot of people don't consider portions when juicing … figuring juicing is just sooo healthy

GabbyPA 2014-07-09 21:07:15 -0500 Report

Yeah, I don't do it a lot, but I took the recipes I have and calculated the ingredients and split the recipe in half, as they tend to make 2 servings. That is why I use a lot of veggies that are lower carb to help out. The average ones that I make run about 20-25 carbs per a 16oz serving.

GabbyPA 2014-07-10 17:06:20 -0500 Report

You take the quantity of each ingredient and add up the nutritional value of it as you use it in the recipe. Then you divide the whole amount by the number of servings you get out of the recipe. It is a little tricky at first, but once you start it gets easier.

Nick1962 2014-07-09 11:55:11 -0500 Report

For me, I’ve always looked at carbs in two categories – beneficial and non-beneficial – and I try to reduce eliminate the non-beneficial ones. Non-beneficial carbs are the ones that bring nothing else to the table like protein or fiber.
A serving of peanuts has about 6g carbs and 1g sugar, but brings along 2g fiber and a whopping 7g protein – it’s a pretty balanced ratio. A serving of whole wheat bread on the other hand is 24g carbs, 2g sugar and only 3g fiber and 4g protein – way more carbs than good stuff.
So things like rice and bread get tossed out being "non-beneficial". Beans and veggies, yes, I still count those carbs, just not as judiciously.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-07-08 21:57:22 -0500 Report

I don't spend time educating people about diabetes as much as I use to and I don't find it confusing because I sat down and some how figured it all out. I really don't stress myself out over food.

haoleboy 2014-07-08 20:09:40 -0500 Report

Carbohydrates are a 'macronutrient' as are proteins and fats (alcohol and water too) … one of the first things you would learn when studying nutrition … really makes you wonder.

elizag1 2014-07-08 19:57:11 -0500 Report

It is confusing to me too…how many carbs in watermelon, apples, banans, is there a list somewhere that tells you?

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-07-08 21:50:25 -0500 Report

I have a book with every food listed with its carbs serving size and calories. I found it on line saved it to a flash drive and took it to work. All you have to do is google the information and you will get tons of carb counts.

kimfing 2014-07-08 20:06:12 -0500 Report

I have a book that is my "bible". Calorie king. I believe there's an app but it costs $. I got my book free. In fact i have several

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-07-08 21:52:07 -0500 Report

I bought a book years ago with every food including fast foods listed with their carbs and calories. Got damaged when the basement flooded. I found one on line and downloaded it. took it to work and printed it out. I lived by it.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-07-10 19:24:53 -0500 Report

I can't stand calorie king and uninstalled it from my phone. I grab the book if I really want to eat something where I don't know the carbs.

rolly123 2014-07-10 20:10:12 -0500 Report

Do u go by carbs or calories I don't want know calorie or carb if it's sweets why don't u like book how long u been diabetic how do u control it or try

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-07-10 20:30:53 -0500 Report

I control my diabetes by counting both carbs and calories. I have a book that I printed from and web site. I find it to be the most accurate.

I have food allergies so my diet is limited as to what I can or cannot eat. I know the carbs and calories of everything I eat on a regular basis. I don't have to look something up unless I add something new. I have been diabetic for 6 years. I have lost over 100 lbs and my last A1C was 6.9. It was lower but I have been sick for awhile. I also keep my blood sugar range between 90 and 120-125.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-07-13 18:19:29 -0500 Report

I looked and it is no longer available. I got it 6 years ago. If you google carb counting you can find all kinds of charts.

rolly123 2014-07-10 20:36:53 -0500 Report

Is their ap for u carb calorie sorry u sick hope feel better wish allergies to choc sweets how many calories u go day and carbs do u keep diary on food and do u c Ditian

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-07-10 20:49:42 -0500 Report

I don't use an app. and I no longer use a food diary. I used a food diary the first 6 months after being diagnosed. My neighbor and good friend is a registered dietitian. She did my meal plan for me and if I need to change we talk about the changes. My doctor told me to have 1200 calories per day. I do about 1000 calories. I have about 120 carbs or less per day. This allows me to eat what I want and I don't eat fast foods.unless I have to which is rare. I keep chocolate in the freezer. Comes in handy if I have a low or want a candy bar in the middle of the day.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-07-10 21:45:12 -0500 Report

I am not on insulin. My friend helped me much better than the one the doctor sent me to. The woman raised my calorie count and didn't listen to a word I said.

I told my neighbor and she did my meal plan which is designed specifically for me because of my food allergies.

Ask yourself this questions. Is $38.00 worth learning something that will help me improve my health. A good dietitian will work with you. I gave the first dietitian my meal plan. I knew things would not go well when she didn't look at it. She also didn't read the notes the doctor sent her. I would spend the $38.00 if I thought it would help me.

kimfing 2014-07-08 22:07:48 -0500 Report

That sucks about your basement :-) i will have to look for the online one. I think i have 4 or 5 backup books. :-) whenever i go out, which is rare, i either download their nutritional info or go to places I've beenthat i know work for Mr :-)