Hardest Obstacle

By lipsie Latest Reply 2011-04-07 12:19:09 -0500
Started 2009-03-28 13:36:14 -0500

What has been you most difficult obsticale since you have been diagnoised with Diabeties? How did you make it through it?

68 replies

P2putt 2009-05-29 09:05:13 -0500 Report

My biggest challenge is following my diet. Like u I am a Carbocolic,PIZZA,PASPA,PITAS,SUBS and anything else made with flour.I am most vulnerable late at night. Those are my toughest hours.

cyncyn 2009-05-29 08:44:02 -0500 Report

I am only a caregiver, but the biggest obstacle, with my mother-in-law(T2) is her "piecing". She loves to piece all day! It was hard to make her meals, because I didn't know what all she had already ate! She lives across the yard from us, so I couldn't be there all the time. I seeked the advise from her R.D., we set up, a meal plan, according to her habit. But that hasn't worked either! Now, she snacks in between, the snacks! She is obsessed with food! We are having trouble with her bs readings. But, she is stubborn and won't give!

Judi62 2009-05-28 15:00:24 -0500 Report

Mine is remembering to eat. Before I was diagnosed, I usually didn't eat until my stomach grumbled. Sometimes only once a day or not at all. I never liked to eat. Took too much time. After being diagnosed, I forgot a few times. Of course, then my BS dropped way low. Now, after 20 some years, I still have to remind myself to eat 3x a day. I wish I didn't have to eat, but we all must to keep ourselves regulated.
I tell myself that I must eat at least within 30 minutes of taking my shots and a protein snack before bed.

pkwillhoite 2011-04-07 12:19:09 -0500 Report

I agree 100% with you!! I thought it was just me… I always forget to eat.. then soon I have my bs at 40 or lower.. I have a note that says Did you eat? Right in front of me now!

squirt62681 2009-05-28 10:31:26 -0500 Report

This is hard for me because I don't really open up on this. I don't eat most of the time and when I do it isn't really what I am suppose to eat. I try hard and don't see the results that should be there so I slide off again thinking nothing is working for me. So I will say the hardest obsticale for me is having diabetes. I get depressed easy when I see my bs readings, but having a tear in the meniscus in my knee makes it difficult to walk like I have in the past. If anybody has any advice I am always open to suggestions. Thank You

Latte Lady
Latte Lady 2009-05-28 10:59:43 -0500 Report

A LOT of good comments here. Appreciate the time, effort, and emotional cost it has cost each of you to open up about yourselves.
I have always grazed, but like to stop eating at dinner (5p.m.) and nothing afterwards. Also once a month or so, for some unknown reason, I like to fast (I put that money into groceries for the foodbank). Well, that went out the window. It bothers me to have to have a snack in the evening. I still donate to the foodbank and quit the fast, but it also bothers me.
Hardest is exercise I think. I do it, moaning and whining the entire time. The dogs are good listeners and still love me. I am a definite driven personality, so have to schedule everything. If no dog walk, I am at the mall, precisely at such and such a time.
I have osteoarthritis, so once in awhile the hip or the knee tell me to take a day lightly. Those days I do chair exercises (a very simple example is on PBS "Sit and Be Fit").
Food itself is not a problem, I know what, how much, when, etc. I should eat. Portion sizes are not an issue either. I use a smaller plate and fill it with salads, etc. Eat slowly with water every few bites. I will not waste my calories/carbs on junk. If I am going to have chocolate, I walk to the mall (exercise!), and buy ONE piece of good and expensive chocolate. I then sit and savor it carefully. That will satisfy the craving and you will realize how bad candy bars, etc., really are.
Am off of the wgt plateau I have been on for THREE months. Good loss this week. Down 32.2# now. Kicking up the exercise did it. Guess all that whining pays off eventually. ;)
We can do this, the challenge is different for each, but there is no option. So, why fight it.

lipsie 2009-05-29 07:55:05 -0500 Report

You are absolutely right, fight…if you fall…pick yourself up and walk again too, don't give up! My dad use to ALWAYS pound that in my head when he was alive, you just reminded me of that, thank you…something to really listen to now. Love yass Sheila

mamaoak 2009-05-27 21:57:58 -0500 Report

when i went to our cottage this past week. to have family for the first time birthday party, with cake. people with pies, and icream. i had a small piece of cake one day a sliver of diet cherry pie and two scoops of diet sugar free ice cream. i wanted more. just because it was a round. glad to get back home. i dont bye temptaions. that is the only way for me.

dyanne 2009-05-28 00:46:13 -0500 Report

Well I guess I fit right in. The food… it has always been my drug and it is the hardest part for me for sure. My weight is terrible and being on insulin its like being in a catch 22. I,am always hungry and if I feel depressed I want to eat and then I get more depressed and then my sugars are all messed up so you feel even worse. In the last few weeks I have been trying so hard to be good and it is so frustrating… I have been eating so much better and the weight does not want to budge. Thanks for listening.

lipsie 2009-05-28 00:53:09 -0500 Report

Not that I am the right one to give out the advice cuz I do not take it myself very well but please just don't give up, you sound genuwine…it'll happen!! *Hugs* Sheila

Judimar 2009-03-30 23:30:16 -0500 Report

Hi Sheila,

The hardest obstacle I have encountered thus far is eating properly. I don't mean the types of food.. I mean just eating period.

When I was first diagnosised I usually just ate 1 meal a day. If you ever saw me you probably wouldn't believe me, but it's true. There are times I will eat something when I get up for breakfast and then nothing until my husband gets home from work at 4pm and that's on my good days. When my doctor told me I should be eating 3 meals a days and two snacks or five small meals a day I told her no way would I be able to do that but I would try. I am still struggling with it.



2009-04-01 22:14:31 -0500 Report

Hey Judi, I'm pretty much the same way! I don't like to eat alone, so I wait til my hubby gets home. I am being a good diabetic now, and eating is a challenge I'm finding out, cause I'm not one for grazing all day. What I've found for a snack that is only 20 gr. of carbs are yogurt raisins. We get them in the small boxes (like you would put in a kids lunch), and I eat those for snacks. I'm trying to figure out what kinda snacks I should stock the house with. Pop tarts aren't a good long lasting carb, dangit!

Judimar 2009-04-02 02:37:00 -0500 Report

I hear ya there Legs! Pop Tarts are a weakness for me as well. I sometimes indulge in a toaster strudel on occasion too but I don't think that's anymore substantial then a Pop Tart LOL!

Momto3 2009-04-02 17:11:14 -0500 Report

Hi! I have been having trouble with snacks also but found that some yogurts are okay, sugar free jello, string cheese, south beach protein bars, veggies and low fat dressing…I hate to read labels but I find if I stick to these they work pretty well. Ohhh a strawberry cream cheese toaster strudel sounds so yummy…wait - am I swearing on here? Sorry!!!

lipsie 2009-04-03 07:01:52 -0500 Report

I honestly struggle STILL today this way…I don't like to eat regular like that…I can not get it in my head…so yeah I can totally realate..sounds like you are doing better…that's great…good job! Sheila

Two painful feet
Two painful feet 2009-03-30 22:48:25 -0500 Report

Hi! Shelia and all,

I was diagnosed in October 2008 right out of the blue. If my husband James wasn't taking care of me I don't know what I would do. He had to retire to start taking care of me full time You see I'm a polio servivor with some serious medical problems. I went from walking with crutchs to a powerchair. My stomach is paralized(not from diabetes). I had this gastroparesis for 10 years and since becoming a diabetic it is worse. So I'm very sick 24/7. Some days are so bad with pain that is bad enough to need to be on strong opiate pain patches. So James has a hard time getting the right foods down me. On bad days I have liquid supplment that he puts into my feeding tube. So that messes up the type 2 diet. But on good days James tries hard to cook good food for me. But we have a hard time finding food that I can tolorate and that is good for my diabetis. Roughage is good for diabetis, bad for my gastroparesis. Soft food good for my stomach, bad for my diabetis. So we each have our trials with our foods. We have friends they are Japanes he is diabetic on insuln. Also a recent kidney transplant recipeant (as you can see I can't spell:)). To not lose his wifes kidney he has to be on a very strict & limited diet. Also trying to keep on the diabetic diet. So once a month they go to their favorite all you can eat oriental restaurant. When they pull in Rekio gives him some insuln. They go in and have a great time with every thing but salt. This is with the specialist blessing. I don't know If I could live on his diet. So I see why they choose to do this. Sorry for just jabbering on.


lipsie 2009-04-03 06:56:04 -0500 Report

First, I don't care about your spelling…I understood you just fine! I care about you as a person, really I do…even IF I don't know you that well. I must give you a lot of credit though, you have a lot on your plate and your still carrying on. Give yourself a pat on the back for that. And your husband MUST really care for you cuz he has choosen to care for you as much as he can, as it sounds…tell him I said great job. I can not imagine the eatting deliema you have…one works, the other don't wow. I just pray things work out and it'll all come together. You know we all here and this site care are routing for you. We love ya. Sheila

datzme 2009-03-30 11:48:45 -0500 Report

I have to say the hardest things for me has been coping with what to eat and when because I was a mess. Eating better and doing for me not for everyone in my family. I need to come first and not feel bad about it this. But its getting easier since the first boom. I try making this a challenge and I have gone off the wagon already and why do they make Easter candy! argh I despise those mini eggs and now count them out for a snack going I hate you yes I do I hate you as well and then when they are over I have to make my husband hide the bag! lol till the next day.

Momto3 2009-03-30 17:35:18 -0500 Report

I have to agree - Easter is a scary thought - especially with 3 kids in the house…wait - you say you can count them as a snack??? Hmmmm…

datzme 2009-03-31 01:53:24 -0500 Report

my daughter is now in collage and this year she said no easter basket whew.. =) But yes I do have 5 little mini eggs as per carbs for a snack if my sugars are down,

lipsie 2009-04-03 06:46:34 -0500 Report

LOL, okay you got me cuz I already slipped there this month..ack and I can't blame Ty this time. I was waiting for him and it was in front of that darn isle..omg they called my name…SHEILA I heard em' So I had to. lol But counting? But yeah you are so right getting down the eatting seems to be our biggest complaint here. Thanks! Imma try to count..nah, staying away..take care..Sheila

caspersmama 2009-03-30 11:30:46 -0500 Report

I know a lot of you especially the wives and mothers will understand this. My hardest thing to overcome was thinking about ME. I had always been the one that did the cleaning, cooking and taking care of everything for the family. My hubby used to be an over the road truck driver and was gone 2-4 weeks at a time. So everything in the house was my responsibilty plus raising my daughter. He drove from the time she was 5 to 16. So I basically raised her myself. But I finnally, when I was diagnosed, had to start to think about me. I had to take my meds, eat better, exercise. Take time out for me. I had to step back and admit I could no longer do it all. I had too much stress and it was affecting me and my sugars. Then I started having other problems so hubby got off the road. Still drives but is home every day now. My house is not spotless anymore, I might have dishes in the sink and laundry to do but I am happier and most of the stress is gone. I now eat the way I need too. I take my meds on a rigid schedule, I still do things for them but I am back in the equation and that is what I overcame. My health is Number One and then my family.

lipsie 2009-04-03 06:37:08 -0500 Report

I can see where you are coming from kind of…right now don't get me wrong Ty takes care of me but lately not cuz he's been down with his teeth, yes he's Diabetic but no where as bad as me too, anyhow I do the cleaning and take care of bills, groceries, etc. Well he cooks, LOL But he has had to lately and its been rough, not so clean mind you either…but getting us by I guess…lol AND he's got those TWELVE I thought 11 teeth yanked out and ended up with FOUR dry sockets…but he's doing it…I have been walking into the walls around here..I dunno. But I can just imagine what you mean. Glad you are better now too. Sheila

DJ 2009-03-30 08:57:29 -0500 Report

OK, I am with "Legs" on this one..my biggest hurdle is my Endo…We live in an area where there aren't many Endos to be found, and as it is I travel about an hour to go to this Woman and all she wants to do is shove pills down my throat!! I had just prior to seeing her for the first time,lost 55lbs and had re-arranged my diet to eat healthy and was exercizing more..She put me on Insulin and prescribed JanuMet & Prandin(both of which made me horribly sick,and I do not take)and a blood pressure med(I don't have high blood pressure,and yes I know it is supposed to help your kidneys)..so, now I have gained back the 55lbs and more and feel like Crap,and my Blood sugars are somewhat better but not great..I have asked her if there isn't something out there that won't make my sooo violently ill(Pill wise),but still help with my BS's and her answer was.."Everyone takes Metaformin and they all do fine!!"(like it is my fault I can't take it!!) Big time Lie I think, since I have seen many people say they can't take it. I don't know how to over-come this Problem,it seems there is no help for it. Great disscussion Shelia..Thanks

lipsie 2009-04-03 06:31:34 -0500 Report

Omg! This does sound like quite the mess, and yes I am with you I hear of MANY that can not take Metformin. I feel for you, I really do. But what can you do, like you said…where you live. Ulgh…so sorry, really *hugs* And sorry I took forever to write, been sick too. SO not w/ it, walking into walls n crap, lol I am laughing so I don't cry yanno..I go to the doctor today finally though…good luck. Sheila

Anonymous 2009-03-29 21:19:54 -0500 Report

Hardest thing is that I wake up about every two hours at night and eat. I have been honest about this with every physician I have seen, but their only response is to up meds, add insulin which just makes me hungrier, gain weight and start the viscious cycle all over again. Hard for me to live and hard for my husband to watch.

lipsie 2009-04-03 06:42:09 -0500 Report

I dunno much about this w/ insilin..don't ack yeah I do now I think of it, but also with phych drugs I was gonna say…its HORRIBLE, and the weight gain omg..I do hope its getting better for you…or gets better, I really do. Good luck. Sheila

P2putt 2009-05-29 09:21:58 -0500 Report

You r not alone. I frequently have the same problem. I can't offer u a solution becauce I haven't foud one. I do understand your situation.Let's hope someone in DC can give us suggestions.We have to hang in there and have HOPE.Wishing you the very best.Pete

Splender 2009-03-29 20:54:21 -0500 Report

Hi Sheila,

I guess my biggest obstacle now—is wanting to stay on the diabetes diet. I say that because I've been living with diabetes for the last 20 years now and it doesn't get any easier. Yes I go off and eat the things I'm not supposed to but your know—-we all are only human and we are not perfect! There is only ONE perfect person and that is our MAKER.. So when you fall off the bandwagon just pick yourself up —brush yourself off— and start all over again! Your really started a GOOD discussion. I'm proud of you for that!!


lipsie 2009-04-03 06:39:53 -0500 Report

First, ty for the compliment! *smiles* Sencond, great point…just getting ourselves on the right way and if we slip..get right back up..I agree..ty..Sheila

2009-03-29 20:44:09 -0500 Report

My biggest obstacle has to be my endo. Getting him to understand that alot of things affect your blood sugar is ONE HUGE obstacle!

Cricket Crafter
Cricket Crafter 2009-03-29 20:48:35 -0500 Report

I have to say setting and sticking to a regular testing schedule has been the hardest. It is so easy to skip.

lipsie 2009-03-30 08:31:30 -0500 Report

Oh yeah I must totally agree w/ you on this one, I still have issues with this. I have tried the counter, desk, purse, ya name it lol someday…Imma get it down yup! lol Thanks for your response, appreciate hearing from you..nice meeting ya..oh I am Sheila btw…lol Sheila

lipsie 2009-03-30 08:28:32 -0500 Report

Your ENDO did not understand really? omg maybe I am lost cuz that's just something that most everyone know right? Hmmmm Now Imma REALLY wondering, I am assuming he/she did finally…so how are things how with you doctor? You happy w//pleased? Just curious. Thanks! Sheila

lipsie 2009-03-29 20:32:42 -0500 Report

Yeah, eatting seems to be such a obstable, but that is what life is about really, challenges. It sounds as if you both have a good start on things anyhow and I give you that, great job there! Sheila

rbergman 2009-03-29 09:33:27 -0500 Report

Mine would have to be food also. Eating habits, eating the wrong foods, being an junk food junkie, etc etc. It has gotten better but I swear there are times when I go through all the cabinets and cupboards searching for something with sugar. It isn't as bad as it was, and, if I don't buy those things I cannot have, I cannot find them when these cravings hit lol I have actually found that sugar free jello you make yourself, NOT the prepackaged little cups, doesn't taste like sugar free at all and nobody in the house complains it has no taste, so we eat A LOT of jello now lol
But anyway, food is my constant obstacle and probably always will be I'm sure, maybe some day it just won't be a constant thought on my mind.

Momto3 2009-03-29 13:29:22 -0500 Report

That's funny you say that maybe food will someday NOT be on your mind all the time - I am CONSTANTLY planning meals and thinking about food! What am I going to eat and when, etc. Last night hubby and I went to a buffet at the Turning Stone Casino near our house…phenomenal food and what a selection!! While in line I had to actually STOP worrying whether there was going to be anything left when we got in there!! So that felt good - not worrying. When we got in there I immediately made a salad and got some sushi as an appetizer, then went back up to fill my plate…with vegs , a slice of prime rib, some fried shrimp(naughty!) a slice of nasty chicken parm (didn't eat it) and ONE piece of pineapple chicken about the size of a chicken nugget. Then a piece of sugar-free blueberry pie. Point is, I think, that even though I could have pigged out on pastas, potatoes, breads and rice, I didn't and I was SO full afterwards I was even wondering what to make for breakfast!!! I don't think it's a bad thing to obsess about food - but I am going to try to obsess about the RIGHT foods, not the stuff I have learned I CANNOT have!!!

lipsie 2009-03-29 03:14:40 -0500 Report

Well being you all wrote yours' I figure it's my turn right? lol
There are so many you could write my I did say first, so … I was just diagnoised but not on medication. My doctor…if that's what we really want to call her, *AHEM* She was omg, I could not get anywhere w/ her. I was sharing a apartment w/ friend, thank goodness cuz the girl was my life saver. My sugars in a period of two weeks were above 300…mainly over 500…I was NOT eatting nothing, I was sick on the couch, could not think, I was out of it. She had me at the emergency room numerous times durning those weeks, where they would get it down..I would go home w/ NOTHING. My doctor did put me on oral medicine in the middle of all this..messed with it off n on, refused insilin, etc. I had and have a history of mental problems, suicidal behavior..attempts, etc. Finally, I just said to my friend I will just tell the emergency I would rather be dead then live like this. This way it was a sorta sucidal threat, BUT because of my medical problems. I KNEW once I got in their phsych ward (mind you I HATED having to resort to this but I had NO life otherwise) that they would monitor my sugars themselves…have to deal with it, THEN it would be so bad as it was, call the specialist finally. Of course that is what happened. And that's when I wsa put on insilin twice daily. Plus orals to at that time. Update, year or so later sugar bottomed out…took off all diabetic meds. NOW, on oral meds and insilin sliding scale. So, that was my first mess to overcome I would say. And from there they're many other things, lol. Thank you all for answering my questions. Just curious, its interesting and some may learn from another. Love yas all! Sheila

batteling type 2
batteling type 2 2009-03-29 02:44:19 -0500 Report

the worst for me is eating correctly. and saying no to all the stuff i crave. i give in but i binge alot…

lipsie 2009-03-29 02:58:45 -0500 Report

Wow, I think the whole list here said eatting. But you do the binginb eh? Yeah that's dangerous. It totally gets you off track and with Diabeties we all need to have some type of system with our eatting habbits, regulars times, decent meals, plan maybe where you can exercise around eatting, etc. I really wish you luck on that! Sheila

Petrea 2009-03-29 02:25:55 -0500 Report

I am still having problems with portion size even after all these years having diabetes. I know how it should be, but I guess I just don't have the self control.

lipsie 2009-03-29 02:55:41 -0500 Report

Now I am going to admit Ty and I have not really started are dieting. We have to shop for some things…we did get some things but we need more, anyhow MY big concern is the same. Portion size. I am not sure how to work on this one either. I am use to just pigging out, getting TOO full, I don't know my limit..or rather don't listen eat. Is that how it is for you Petrea? Thanks for writting also! Sheila

Petrea 2009-03-31 02:16:50 -0500 Report

Another thing is I hate to have a little dab of leftovers. If I put it in the frige it seems like it isn't eaten so I would rather eat the dabble than put in the frige because I HATE cleaning out the frige afterwards.

Avera 2009-03-28 23:16:08 -0500 Report

The biggest problem for me is still trying to eat correctly without cheating.

From time to time I just totally fall off the wagon. It is never for long periods of time. Sometimes it is just a quick moment in time,,,I am at the store and HAVE to have a candy bar. Most of the time I don't give in and that good old will power takes over and I am safe. BUT sometimes I buy and eat that candy bar. Then I have to work twice as hard to get back on track.

The best thing for me to help with this problem is finding yummy low carb recipes and cooking them. Since I started doing this, even though I am still a junk food junkie, I am better able to NOT fall off the wagon.


lipsie 2009-03-29 02:52:41 -0500 Report

Avera girfriend, Lemme tell ya, you definately show that you are a junk food junkie, LOL BUT … BUT Do NOT get me wrong I LOVE THAT about ya, lol. Because you come up with the best recipes ever! EVen if they're not junk food..you never let me down with your recipes, thank you for all your time doing that btw. And in my eyes, ok..so you cheat on occasion, it happens, just pick yourself back up though, don't fall into a hole or anything. You are a awesome woman, I really respect you! *Hugs* Sheila

P2putt 2009-05-29 09:29:47 -0500 Report

Avera your recepies are great. I only have one problem with them I run out of printing paper .lol.Pete

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lipsie 2009-03-29 02:47:30 -0500 Report

I am so sorry you are also having these same issues as it seems most all of us. You sound VERY mad at yourself though? Or just a figure of speech really? Don't beat yourself up over it cuz that won't help matters either. Heck, probably make em' worse with us don't ya think? It'll all come toghether, its just gonna take time. Remember they're recipes here on this site, let me tell you they sound yummy, I have to get my money and I will find out on some…just work with it…we all can work together really. Anyhow, thank you for responding…msg me if ya want…*hugs* Sheila

MeiMei 2009-03-31 11:58:58 -0500 Report

As you can see from the responses you are not alonw in this. I too, have this problem. Change at this age is hard, esp after a lifetime of eating habits, altho I can't say I didn't eat well. I grew up in a household where my mom made very nutritious meals (being a nutritionist). Altho in my case it was not what I did or did not eat.

Momto3 2009-03-28 15:34:35 -0500 Report

Hi Sheila! Good question and it's nice to see we are not alone in the obstacles we have to overcome!! My biggest one so far is remembering that now I have to eat breakfast, and a good one, not a bagle slathered with cream cheese or a BIG bowl of Cinnamon Toast Crunch! I have never been a breakfast eater, so this is a tough one!

lipsie 2009-03-29 02:39:26 -0500 Report

Yanno, that is the worst! I have all along had issues with eatting breakfast…and still fight with myself. I don't like the "normal" breakfast foods" or if I do want something its like you said the bagel…with all the cream cheese, lol..but yes sounds like healthy eatting it a HUGE thing to a lot of us eh, thank you so much for your answer! Sheila

caspersmama 2009-03-30 11:39:40 -0500 Report

There are many times I do not eat "breakfast" foods for breakfast. One day I will have veggies or a salad. Or left over fajitas. Who said you had to have bacon and eggs for the morning meal. I sometimes have breakfast type foods for dinner. Why do you think IHOP is open at night? LOL

2009-03-28 15:27:08 -0500 Report

Hi Sheila, I think the hardest obstacle that I had to overcome was portion size at meals. I still sometimes want to eat more because as we all know if you are still hungry it's hard to push away.

2009-03-28 15:08:56 -0500 Report

Sheila, it's been a couple of things for me. First, it was giving myself the shots and watching the clock each and every day to make sure I didn't miss one. The second thing was getting it through my thick skull that food CAN hurt you. I had always eaten what I wanted whenever I wanted it. Thank God, I had never eaten sweets so that part was not a problem. I still have problems with trying to cook, figure out carbs, stick with the diabetic diet. I of course did push it a couple of times and ate what I wanted and my BS went through the roof. It's finally all sinking in and getting easier. But it was not easy in the beginning. Hugs, Angie

lipsie 2009-03-29 02:29:22 -0500 Report

We are quite a like on that level. Neither really cook per say, at least thats my empression from your writting. lol But I have not been big on sweets, I have those occasionally cravings though. My falling point is carbs..the pasta and the tators…anythings with tators..other than sweet potatoes. Thanks for you answer! Sheila

Ashalka 2009-03-28 14:00:17 -0500 Report

Mine is still taking my meds on schedule, The eating right has gotten much easier still not great but so much better. But that shedule…

lipsie 2009-03-29 02:26:16 -0500 Report

I am still having issues taking my meds on a schedule, even before I had Diabeties I had meds for other things I never adapted to schedule very well. But good to hear you are doing better with the eatting. Great! Thanks! Sheila

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