Let me get this straight...

By Momto3 Latest Reply 2009-09-23 17:49:03 -0500
Started 2009-03-27 13:12:04 -0500

Okay, as you all know, I just found out last week about my diabetes. Okay, at the risk of sounding ignorant…
1. If you don't eat a snack at bedtime your BS can be high in the morning
2. If you DO eat a snack at night it may still be high in the AM
3. If you eat the WRONG snack at night it may be high in the morning
4. If you eat the right foods during the day at pretty much even intervals it may stay lower but if you eat the wrong foods or DON't eat anything it will go up?
So my question is should I or shouldn't I eat and when, pray tell should I eat it???

69 replies

shastadiabetes 2009-09-23 17:49:03 -0500 Report

Depending on what you eat, what type of foods they are can regulate you Blood sugars at night, day time and when ever. Eat the foods you are suppose to eat and avoid foods you are not suppose to eat. Stay away from concentrated sugars at all times. Ask your Doctor or Caregiver for information if you can't control your sugars.
Be Diabetic and Survive. Don't live a Double life!
Visit LuLu.com/books and look for 43yrs The Juvenile Diabetic Lifestyle and keep Diabetes simple.

Brenda Kruse
Brenda Kruse 2009-04-09 19:31:50 -0500 Report

I absolutely love your discription of the big "D". It isn't a funny situation, but you are hilarous! Believe me, humor will go a long way toward dealing with the different situations you'll encounter. I will pray for you as you adjust! Blessings! Brenda

shastadiabetes 2009-04-07 00:17:24 -0500 Report

Hello all people leading the Diabetic lifestyle. It seems Diabetics concentrate on what went wrong and why. If you don't record your Diabetic experience then the only thing wrong, is if you repeat that procedure and continue with it thinking that your Diabetic Treatment is under control. Concentrate on what you need to do by taking and logging your "Diabetic treatment" that you design for your-self that works. Look in the past to keep on the straight and narrow. The path that leads to Good Diabetic Management is called the Diabetic Basics. It envolves every-thing you learned finding out you were a Diabetic and sticking to good Diabetic procedure. Your Doctor or care giver, nutritionist and every one round you completing your Diabetic lifestyle is what keeps you in check. Diabetic Check.Remember to record and establish a sick plan with your Doctor or caregiver. Stay calm and collective gathering new information every time you feel it applies to you. Stick to proven facts and live a healthy Diabaeic Lifestyle.

Edie 2009-04-07 21:52:30 -0500 Report

Thankyou for that information. My Dr. never told me what to do if I am sick. I found out on my own what I needed to do to get thru the days when I don't feel well each sick day can be something different wrong and needs a different approach to that day. So be careful what you are told may not be what you need to do at that time. Good Luck on your Sick Days Plan. You may need several Plans for different sick days.

Jerry M Bell
Jerry M Bell 2009-04-06 16:21:52 -0500 Report

i am a veteran treated in the centers they way of handeling nite snack is 3 hr after supper if bs is under 115 mm/dl you get one panel; of graham cracker and 8 oz 2 % milk

Edie 2009-04-07 21:48:28 -0500 Report

When I was working inthe Nursing Home we always gave a half a sandwich and a glass of milk at 2 PM and then after we got the residents ready for bed we gave then a fruit smoothie and either a small dish of Ice Cream or 4 small squares of graham cracker we always busted them into 4ths that way they thought they were getting more than they were. I still do that here at home for my bedtime snack when I eat the Graham Crackers.
For the Smoothies I would use a Gal Milk Jug and pour 1/2 of it into the blender with 3 cups of plain yogurt and 2 cups of fruit any kind you want and 3 cups of Vanillia Ice Cream Mix it well pour into the milk jug and add to fill the jug with more milk. Shake real well and pour into 2 Milk jugs and fill again both of them with Milk. I put one in the Frig for the evening snacks and then used the other one for the afternoon snack. The Night shift Nurse told me with my Smoothie they didn't have to give milk of mag to any of the residents on those nites I made the Smoothies. LOL Use Fresh Fruit or even the Canned ones and the juice from the cans even if its the syrup kind. Have fun with this one.

lois hutchins
lois hutchins 2009-04-06 14:29:27 -0500 Report

Girlfriend I am STILL struggling with that.
Do not despair, do the best you can and hang in there!
I felt like diabetes is the sentence of death, but it isn't if you eat right.Pratice makes perfect.
God bless

Angel1204 2009-04-05 18:59:49 -0500 Report

Hi, I'm CJ. I have had diabetes for 29 years and it runs heavy on both sides of my family. When I had my last child I was in gestational diabetes but I thought it'll go away after he's born.

Not! One thing that I have learned over the years (one of many) is that food is not the only thing that triggers to make it go up. Stress, illness, and even the weather. This was told to me by a doctor and I have lived it. So don't go by just what you eat—-but monitor by the other triggers, too.

Hope I haven't bored any of you. I look forward to caring and sharing with everyone.

God Bless,
Have a wonderful, blessed week.

Edie 2009-04-05 21:30:43 -0500 Report

I sure can relate to that. Everything triggers your Sugars not just one or two things. Good Luck on Controling it now and in the Future.

tickles1244 2009-04-09 18:29:37 -0500 Report

I tend to be on the low side of Diabetes, but one thing for sure is not only is eating right a sure thing but keeping stress out of your life as much as you can is a big plus to your management of Diabetes.

Edie 2009-04-05 15:41:46 -0500 Report

I got a plan from Prevention called the Flat Belly Diet.
When I asked my Dr. what Diet Plan he wanted me to go on he said 40% Carbs 30% Protein and 30% Fats well guess what The Flat Belly Diet is 50-60% Carbs 15-20% Proteins and 30% or less Fats and this diet also gets rid of the fat around our Major Organs. I love this as it follows some of what others across the boards have been saying they eat and alot of what they eat is in here. So I am getting everything I need to follow this Diet for one Month on hand that way I won't need to go to the Store if I need it and find out the money is short. Rodale Books has it and alot more books that we can use as well. They have one called the Dtour it is written just for Diabetics and when I get this one done I'm getting it also to see how close they are to each other. Have fun using these books from there.

malecat 2009-04-04 17:26:36 -0500 Report

i was friends with a gal in minnesota that would eat lemon marange pie than took her ilente insulin an woke up serveral hours later in a insulin reaction found out this insulin has pre programed release point so even though she compsated for the sugar in the pie no suger there when next dose kicked in she liked thing that were sweat but bad for some one diabetic to eat this was 1984

shastadiabetes 2009-04-04 14:43:20 -0500 Report

Hello, if you decide that your Blood Sugars are running High in the morning dispite of what you do. Try eating a snack that is according to your bed time blood sugar. I would need to know what time you are checking Bedtimes and what you are taking in R-Insulin to regulate it at night. Depends on what type of Regular Insulin you are working with and what snack is involved, maning do you check again at 4:30 in the mourning and are you taking Insulin at this time to bring it down, your Blood Sugar, as advised. Are you doing any late night exercise?.
Are you sticking to the Basics, meaning NO sugar? Get back to me at shastadiabetes@yahoo.com small or go to 43yrs the Juvenile Diabetic life style and click the opening link and then get back to me. I have had diabetes for 45 yers and I want to share what Iknow with you. May God Bless you and your loved ones.

tickles1244 2009-04-04 13:16:45 -0500 Report

Diabetes seems to design itself to every person differently,I tend to be on the low side my bg usually in the 80s or mid 90's I eat a snack of crackers by Special K multi-grain and 4 slim jims beef sticks before isleep at night it seems to keep my AM readings low.I believe its diet know how.I take no diabetes meds, but I do have to be careful of extreme lows.

NEStraka 2009-04-04 13:54:30 -0500 Report

Hi I'm new to the group but not to diabetes, I have had type 2 for about 5 years.I have learned it is best to follow the food groups with the help of a dietician. But the one thing that I would really recommend to others with diabetes is exercise, exercise, excersie. I have lost 70 lb since being diagnosed. I usually walk 3 miles/day. In the winter I have to walk somewhere inside. But even if you have to walk up and down two or three steps a couple times a day, or walk back and forth in your home, that will help. Take care of yourself. Watch your feet, top and bottom, for sores, blisters, slices, and get them taken care of. Sores are slower to heal now that you are a diabetic, so take care of sores, if need be go to the doctor. Nancy

tickles1244 2009-04-04 14:18:09 -0500 Report

thanks for info, some times its refreshing to hear how other people are coping with this disease..take care now and I will try to get some excercise into my life.

Momto3 2009-04-04 12:17:55 -0500 Report

Wow, this is all so amazing to me - all this support is wonderful…it also makes me realize that although we are all different -different ages, sizes, races and genders, from all different backgrounds and even how different foods affect us all differently - that we are still all going through the SAME thing together and I thank you all for being there to supposrt not just me but each other. Hey Jocelyn - that's quite a run on sentence isn't it. Teach??? Love you all and thanks again!!!

cedarwolf 2009-04-04 12:16:56 -0500 Report

I quite literally feel your pain. I was allowed to go to testing twice a day but keep having spikes in my blood sugar readings depending on what I eat and when I eat it. I'm working on the low carb diet (I get 210/day) and I've dropped almost 50 pounds so far but I have yet to figure out the magical mysteries of eating cycles. And I've noticed that past a certain point, every "expert" says something different about what to eat, when to eat, why to eat. You have to rely on your own research much of the time and go with what works best for you.

Edie 2009-04-04 11:56:56 -0500 Report

I just go one day at a time and then it is still trial and error as we go. I have been a Diabetic since 1972 and I was 16 then. LOL
When you find what works for you use it if it don't work for you then try something else.
We have several tools on this site to help us. Check them all out and use what feels good to you.
We have one discussion on exercise and diet for April under Other you can join us there and post what feels right to you.
Welcome to the site.

James_N_Claudia 2009-04-04 11:43:25 -0500 Report

My answer to this universal question is SALAD! Plain ol lettuce tomato cucumber salad with a little of that spray on salad dressing!
SALAD is the Answer to the UNIVERSE…I think!? Least that's what my darling wife thinks!

freddyg2u 2009-04-04 10:48:01 -0500 Report

After reading your post,the one thing you must do,is stay focused on your diabetese. Once you get organised and in the correct frame of mind, it gets easier.
A snack, most have sugars but you can buy sugar free goodies at your favorite market.
Remember always to be patient with this disease and it will be okay once you get in control of your eating habits. Never
deny this either as it will haunt you forever. Keep learning about it, all you casn and this site is the GrandDaddy of them all. Be happy, Freddyg

MarkD - 14539
MarkD - 14539 2009-04-04 12:40:01 -0500 Report

But did you know the low carb foods have less carbs and sugars than the sugar free foods??? Watch what you eat. Everyone is different, I am proof of that. I eat no breakfast until 10-11 am then eat a light lunch @ 2ish and then a small dinner @ 6pm with no snacks in between and my numbers are staying right in range.

Edie 2009-04-04 12:47:16 -0500 Report

Yeah some days I find I can go all day with out eating and then other days I have to eat. My numbers are never the same any given day and when I don't eat my numbers some times drop other days they go up depending on how I am feeling that day.

Flybob 2009-04-04 10:44:23 -0500 Report

Just wanted to add my thanks to all the thoughtful answers. You help more than just the original poster…
…and, good luck to the original poster…

JS - 32502
JS - 32502 2009-04-04 10:40:42 -0500 Report

Dear Momto3, Education is the key. Learn everything you can. This website is great, I wish I had found it earlier. These are REAL people with REAL experience. Yes it is a frustrating lifestyle, yes it can be depressing. Yes you will probably lose control at some point, but NEVER give up! It keeps you guessing and just when you think you know what's going on things change. READ everything and adapt it to what works for you! You will find that everything affects your BS. How much sleep you get, exercise, stress it all affects you. Keeping positive is very important. Tell your friends what is going on with your condition so they can help you. Don't be embarrassed to share with them. It is ok to say no to dessert or to ask for only a bite. They will be happy to make choices that you can share. So yes, question all those things you are but do them and record how they affect you and be stronger even when you think you fail. Learn and go on. Good luck

MeiMei 2009-03-31 12:15:36 -0500 Report

Not much to add to the discussion. I was diagnosed type 1 about a year and a half and am still trying to figure out what makes my blood sugar go up or down. What you need to do is go to see a diabetic educator and nutritionist. They will be a good resource for the basics. Then it is trial and error as to what you can tolerate. I have found that for me I eat three meals a day and one snack before bed. Mostly veggies and some meat. Very few high carb foods, rice has a tendency to really make my blood sugar soar.

Carol11 2009-04-01 14:23:28 -0500 Report

I've found that brown rice, for me, doesn't spike nearlyu as high as white rice. It has a nice, nutty taste

roger 2009-04-02 18:00:37 -0500 Report

any food that i look at makes my sugar go up. so i am trying to go for a walk right after dinner to help . and the dogs like it to

Edie 2009-04-04 12:02:59 -0500 Report

I have been to several in the past and I have found that what I learn from here is more help than they ever were.
I love this site because everyone on here has knowledge of one sort or another and it all helps in the long run one way or another. Read it all and learn as you go.

tabby9146 2009-03-30 18:01:44 -0500 Report

I can't add anything to what anyone else has said. I was diagnosed in early Nov. It took about two months before I could tell with any food, just what to eat and how much. I have a snack between b'fast and lunch and another between lunch and dinner. Sometimes it is peanut butter and two sheets of graham crackers, other times it is fruit and yogurt, or a high fiber cereal that is also low carb. Sometimes it is a Kashi TLC bar or South Beach bar. Make sure you exercise! If your sugar isn't too high, exercise should bring the BS down. The diabetes educators told me that the best time to exercise is one hour after your biggest meal, whether that is lunch or supper. Make sure to get protein, a little fat, and fiber in each meal. Measure out your food until you can eyeball it and know how much a cup is, or 1/2 cup,etc. Good luck to you!

caspersmama 2009-03-30 10:58:23 -0500 Report

After 14 years of being diabetic I have finally found what is working for me. I have been on every med and even insulin but now I take 2 different pills a day and it is working. Morning sugars are between 89-101 and evening at bed is between 120-130. which for me is great. My next A1c should be way lower than 7.0 this time. Eating 4-5 small meals a day is working for me and exercise is the key. I do 1 mile on the bike in the Am and 1 mile at night. I have been trying to take Casper to the park more for walking and it helps. Every little bit helps. Even cleaning your house will get you moving. Vacuuming is good exercise too. It is walking. Just an example of my 4-5 meals yesterday was for breakfast I had a bacon on a grand biscuit and coffee. Snack was apple slices with peanut butter. Lunch was a salad with tuna on it. another snack was 7 Triscuits and Laughing Cow cheese wedge. and then for "Dinner" I had brussels sprouts and couscous. Bedtime snack was some graham crackers and a 1/2 glass of milk. Sugar this morning was 90. You have to find what works for you. Test and then re-test 2 hours later after you eat to see what happened. Keep notes of what and how much you ate and what your sugar was so you can see the pattern. After much trial and error you will learn. Some people can eat ice cream and not have a problem. I cannot. Others cannot eat oatmeal but I can. Hope some of this has helped you and good luck.

lipsie 2009-03-31 06:54:49 -0500 Report

You are on point there, ty and I have to figure a balance for us out…that's great idea thanks. Sheila

Edie 2009-04-04 12:17:28 -0500 Report

What are the names of the meds you have been on for your Diabetes. I would really like to know and see if I have used any of them.

caspersmama 2009-04-05 11:28:00 -0500 Report

I am taking Amaryl 2 times a day 1 in am and 1 in the evening. In the afternoon I take Actos.

Edie 2009-04-05 12:04:34 -0500 Report

I never heard of any of those. My Husband Bill is just starting to take Meds. for his Diabetes and it is Jamumet never heard of it either till he got it.
With the way money is right now we need Bill getting his Medication more than me as he is the one working or trying to. I will fight this along the way with Diet and Exercise till we can get my meds the right way. Till then I will get what I can from my Dr. only.

GabbyPA 2009-03-29 09:33:45 -0500 Report

Sorry, but I just had to chuckle. This is me. My husband hears this list from me everytime I think I have it figured out and then I find I don't. It is a quandry that I suffer with too. For a while, one serving of vanilla iceream with walnuts was working. Now it doesn't. I am trying a glucerna bar before bed to see if that will work. It seems to for now, but the key to my lowering it is EXERCISE. I do it in the AM, but I have been having trouble (well, that is called laziness) getting an evening routine in as well. I know it will help...sigh...I just have to do it.

Momto3 2009-03-29 13:16:46 -0500 Report

I think we all have a bit of the "lazies" in us and I think that is what my problem is too sometimes. Is there some way we could check in every day with each other to make sure we are doing some sort of daily exercise? I think the encouragement from each other would be great!! (I have to give it to you that you are at least doing a morning routine!!!)

GabbyPA 2009-03-30 08:01:24 -0500 Report

We have a post called "Exercise and Diet (insert month here)" We have not been as diligent, as only Edie and I seem to participate. But if we have some new blood in there, perhaps you will inspire us all. Check out the march one. It will close tomorrow and Edie usually starts a new one the first of the month. So April will be next and maybe we will get back to making it work for us. Edie and I are going to do evening walks together...she is up north and I am down south, but we are going to be reporting there. So please join us.

Momto3 2009-03-30 10:04:52 -0500 Report

Gabby - being new to this site I am not sure how to get there to your post but would love to join!!!

Edie 2009-04-04 12:20:42 -0500 Report

Thankyou Gabby for getting the word out about our discussion. Eveyone is welcome to join us and help keep us going in the right direction. All are welcome and I would really like more to join us. It gets kind a boring if not to many on there to give us a push every now and again.
Your Friend Always;

pop2 2009-04-05 13:44:29 -0500 Report

exercise can be done sitting on the couch watching tv just take a minute do 15 or 20 sit ups stand do 15 or 20 bend touch your toe. make exercise work for you on your time, then you do some type of exercise every day what ever you are able to do. just don't over do it.
now if that got you going its time to get on your exercise machine 20 to 30 minutes if you are able to do so any kind of exercise I do dailey has helped me control my blood sugar diet and exercise helps in controling bs.because of all the problems that diabetes can cause it is good to keep in good physical health.I have been diabetic over 20 yrs I have been on insulin about 15yrs or longer.

zobel 2009-03-28 23:24:58 -0500 Report

i am still writing my book on my diabities and its nearly 20 yrs.
be happy when your close. sometimes you do well sometimes you dont

keep your chin up carl

2009-03-28 07:45:40 -0500 Report

Mom, I still consider myself newly diagnosed. Like several others said, test, test, test. You will go through a lot of test strips but it's well worth it to find out how your medications and food are working for you. You will probably find you need to make adjustments to your food and medicine. If I had not tested like crazy, I would be in the hospital with the terrible lows I was having. I realize you are Type 2, I am Type 1, but my insulin has been adjusted numerous times. It's just trial and error. Do the best you can, keep you log, and talk to your doctor. Make sure your doctor actually takes time to look at your log and see when you are having trouble. (I mean what time during the day, fasting., etc.) You'll be fine, it is like a very hard math problem! Good luck! Angie

2009-03-27 22:34:54 -0500 Report

Diabetes is kinda like some of the mysterious math subjects: it just is.

I'm in agreement with sparkysmom: Isn't diabetes wonderful

roger 2009-03-28 19:40:42 -0500 Report

no it is not wonderfull! it takes over every thing you do ! just like when you have kids and just like a kid doing somthing wrong you still " gotta love it" just the way it is!

2009-03-28 21:44:15 -0500 Report

But kids grow up and move out!! Diabetes is here to stay.

CD 2009-04-04 10:26:59 -0500 Report

No longer can you be spontaneous. My life revolves around how many carbs? what king of carbs? and test strips, finger pokes and injections. What a drag! but then I am still here with my family after almost dying from an e-coli infection which destroyed one kidney and nearly the other one. After 3 year I am doing very well. God bless you all.

sparkysmom 2009-03-27 18:07:56 -0500 Report

Isn't diabetes wonderful?

Edie 2009-04-04 12:23:04 -0500 Report

Yes it is a stroll thru the park so stop and smell the roses once in awhile. LOL
It gets to be a pain in the butt most days for me. but the trick is not to let it get you down.
Be a clown and keep on moving. It helps me to joke about it sometimes.

Brenda Kruse
Brenda Kruse 2009-04-05 16:54:00 -0500 Report

Check out the discussion on movies that make you laugh. There's some great ideas. I need to remember to add one, too. My husband just turned on "RV" with Robin Williams. I had forgotten how funny it is. I'll be praying for you as you adjust! Blessings! Brenda

lipsie 2009-03-27 16:12:23 -0500 Report

By golly lookies like they all got some answers for yas already not that I am the one to tell this, I am also learning this stuff…I usually eat when and what I want. *sigh* lol Good luck hun! Sheila

jsd2005 2009-03-27 15:29:51 -0500 Report

You should eat a snack at least 4 times a day and at bedtime, You just have to watch what type of snack you eat. Usually, crackers and peanut butter and and a small piece of fruit, like a banana and milk will do at bedtime.
Snacks during the day can consist of protein, milk and some type of cracker or 1/2 of a sandwich, Turkey is good.
I find it difficult to eat that much, but it does make a difference. It helps maintain your blood sugar throughout he day.
Good Luck and I hope this helps.

Splender 2009-03-27 14:57:52 -0500 Report

One of the most important thing I found out is to take one day at a time—one hour at a time—one moment at at time. Then before you know it you have just about everything figured out and whoops!—-something else comes up again BUT guess what? You know how to handle it and it will be easier. Hang in there and with you questioning and getting answers and getting a diabetes educator you'll be a pro in no time.


kdroberts 2009-03-27 14:18:43 -0500 Report

"should I or shouldn't I eat and when, pray tell should I eat it??? "

You need to take a few months to figure that out…eat, test, review, adjust. After a while you will find what works for you.

Carol11 2009-03-27 13:33:34 -0500 Report

That's pretty well it!. D does whatever it wants, whenever it wants. As the CDE said "that's just the way Diabetes is" to any and all of those questions when I asked. You muddle through as best you can.

2009-03-27 13:32:30 -0500 Report

Welcome to the roller coaster. Don't try to learn this all at one time you'll drive yourself nuts!! As for the morning blood sugar, everyone is different and different things work for different people.. just remember that through all of this learning.

If you haven't been introduced to a diabetes educator or dietician please ask your doctor to refer you for the basic education on how, what, and when to eat. They'll most likely teach you carbohydrate counting there. Carbs are what cause blood sugar to rise, some more than others and you'll learn what affects you along the way so hang tight and don't panic.

What you need to do for starters is test yourself.
Tonight at dinner time.. before dinner wash your hands with 'warm soap and water' (insert warm water and soap lol) and test your blood sugar. Write it down.
Eat your regular dinner and enjoy yourself.
1 hour after dinner again wash your hands and test your blood sugar write it down
2 hours after dinner repeat
3 hours after diinner repeat.

I know that's a lot of test strips and finger pokes but that's how you'll learn how food affects you and what you can eat and in what quantity. You'll want to do this when you are introducing new foods. It only takes a little while to get a handle on the foods you regularly eat and how they affect you so this isn't a 'forever' thing.

Eat regular balanced meals every day. Breakfast, Lunch, Supper and 2-3 snacks in between. I save my fruit for snacks and have a piece of string cheese or a couple of nuts with it to balance the protein and carb.

You'll get it, just take one day at a time and try to stay relaxed.

Any questions just ask.

rbergman 2009-03-27 13:38:46 -0500 Report

ummm judy…warm soap and water? Where do you find warm soap? lol just kidding excellent advice as always!

2009-03-27 13:44:41 -0500 Report

Warm it in the microwave!! And then when you are done.. you can use it anyway you wish… I used to put soap in my kids mouth when they lipped off… c'mere… LOL


rbergman 2009-03-27 14:11:12 -0500 Report

I only had to eat soap once as a kid…omg that would be instant child abuse these days lol…but once was enough to teach me NOT to say such words around my granny ever again…it was Lava soap, gotta be the worst kind there is to taste, but not doing a taste test to find out…any volunteer's??? lmao

vgarrison 2009-03-31 13:05:07 -0500 Report

Yah it only took once for me as well…too bad it was liquid dawn…yep i burped that up for about 3 days…YUCCKKK!!!!!!!

Edie 2009-04-05 17:39:13 -0500 Report

I was given lava soap as a kid also for the swear words and no I didn't learn my lesson the first time it took several times, because my brother and younger sister would tell on me. LOL
Also had to eat phelsnaptha soap and Lava was the worst one I ever had.
When Gram Jones came to visit she brought a new bar of Phelsnaptha soap with her my younger sister use to just go up and take a chunk out of it and laugh at Grams.

lois hutchins
lois hutchins 2009-04-06 14:39:01 -0500 Report

I gave dawn dishwashing liquid to my grand kids for lying to me ,they blew bubbles for three hours!!! LOL, LMAO,