Low Carb High Fat Diet

Im0nGuard
By Im0nGuard Latest Reply 2014-06-25 17:06:15 -0500
Started 2014-06-21 15:07:11 -0500

I have read about how a low carb high fat (LCHF) diet is supposed to help with diabetes, but it seems to good to be true. The answer to most concerns seems to be "eat more fat". It appears that bacon is a good thing in this diet…from a quote from Homer Simpson, "butter that bacon, boy!". Eating full fat dairy, butter on everything, and coconut oil seems to be the norm. I was reading on a different forum, people eating coconut oil by the spoonful as a snack and putting it in their coffee. They are using fat to feel full as a replacement for carbs. Some are admitting that their cholesterol numbers have gone up slightly but that they have become "large and fluffy", and that is good I guess?!
Consuming veggies is rarely discussed, other that only eating veggies that grow above ground…meaning no tubers, etc, not that they defy gravity.
What is your take on this diet, and if you are on it how is it working?
I am not trying to get out of eating "healthy", but at my workplace (where I spend 12 hours a day, and cannot leave the property) access to fresh veggies is difficult. Access to foods fitting the LCHF meal plan are easier, and storage of the foods would be easier.
I am waiting to see a diabetic dietician, but would like more information before then, so when I can finally get an appointment I can focus on the details rather then trying to understand the basics.


10 replies

jayabee52
jayabee52 2014-06-23 18:51:52 -0500 Report

Howdy On guard,
Since fats do not raise one's blood glucose I can see no difficulty in following this for a Diabetes meal plan. I am told that one has to watch coconut oil intake and get one's intake ramped up slowly since too much too quickly can create a "laxitive effect".

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-06-23 08:12:52 -0500 Report

I pay no attention to diets. I along with my friend who is a registered dietitian came up with a meal plan that works for me and eliminates all foods I am allergic to.

There is no valid excuse to not being able to having access to fresh veggies because you work 12 hours a day and can't leave the property. You can take them to work with you. I always took food to work with me, especially when it was very cold or very hot out. I always had a fresh veggie in my lunch. I even took baby carrots and spinach to snack on while working away in my office. I buy fresh veggies, meats and fish and the only fish I eat that is canned is tuna.

You have to find what works for you as an individual. My diet is not based on what anyone on this site says because most of what they say does not work for me. And none of them is my dietitian. I only take advice from my professional medical team. I actually don't care what is working for other people because different things work for different people. I am more concerned with what works for me. I have learned other things from members on this site. Your diet has to work for you. This would mean that it is healthy based on what you think healthy eating means to you.

Although my diet does include, bacon, hot dogs and sausage doesn't mean it is on my plate everyday. I avoid processed foods as much as possible. I just had blood work and got my latest A1C, I am still waiting on my Cholesterol results.

If you try everything that everyone else is doing, you may never find an eating plan that works for you. I always change my meal plan around as I find the need to do so and the one thing not included is a lot of fats and starches. This is what works for me. I would work with a dietitian and focus on eating what you find works for you.

Glucerna
Glucerna 2014-06-22 21:35:20 -0500 Report

Figuring out exactly what healthy eating means for you individually is ultimately the key, not only to managing diabetes but also to improving overall health. Some people do well on a lower carbohydrate diet; others with moderate carbohydrate intake. Activity level, metabolism, overall health and genetics play a role in determining the best diet for you. The American Diabetes Association has guidelines at http://www.diabetes.org/food-and-fitness/food... that can help you start to learn more about carbohydrate, fat, protein and fiber. You can also keep a food record and test your blood sugar to start to see how different foods affect you. All of this information will also be helpful when you meet with the dietitian. It's great you're being proactive. ~Lynn @Glucerna

haoleboy
haoleboy 2014-06-22 17:40:08 -0500 Report

As a point of reference when speaking of a Low Carb High Fat Diet the target daily carb intake is between 20 and 50 grams per day and "high fat" does not mean eating processed foods. There are many healthy 'fats' out there such as those from avocados, nuts, coconuts, olives, cold water fish, eggs, cheese … you get the idea.
Also recommend that you avoid vegetable and seed oils (corn, canola, safflower, cottonseed etc.) and choose olive and coconut oils and butter

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-06-23 08:21:04 -0500 Report

Steve I have found the "recommended" foods are not the foods I can eat. Since I can't eat any kind of nut or nut product, nor foods with a pit, that eliminates, olive and coconut oils, I have to use corn, vegetable or canola.

When I was first diagnosed, I switched to olive oil and couldn't figure out why I was always feeling itchy. It was the olive oil. Strange I didn't get allergic to these things until I got older.

I eat fish when I have taste for it but I eat chicken and turkey all the time. It wasn't easy coming up with a meal plan for me because of my food allergies. Oh well life does go on and I have managed my diabetes very well even with eliminating a lot of the recommended foods.

My first dietitian's diet included a lot of the foods I could not eat. She didn't listen when I told her about my food allergies which is why my friend and neighbor helped me.

Type1Lou
Type1Lou 2014-06-22 17:26:16 -0500 Report

I eat a low-carb diet and limit myself to 120 grams of carb per day. I don't pay attention to the fats I eat but, I wouldn't gorge myself on bacon and processed meats…there are food additives in them that can be harmful. I do eat a lot of all-natural peanut butter in addition to a lot of salads and fresh fruit and vegetables, eggs, lean meats, fish and cheese, always taking into account the carb value of what I eat. My last lipid panel showed 167 total cholesterol, 78 HDL, 80 LDL and 43 triglycerides. Since carbs are the primary reason for elevated BG, reducing them makes sense and will lower BG while also, propably contribute to any needed weight loss.

Im0nGuard
Im0nGuard 2014-06-22 17:59:38 -0500 Report

This is similar to how I eat most of the time now. I have cut WAY back on my carbs, but I haven't been counting them yet. Waiting to see the doctor to get another lipid panel done. Is there a conversion for cholesterol numbers between US and Canada? (Is it the same for BG?). My original triglycerides were 36, and my doctor said "normal" was around 2.

haoleboy
haoleboy 2014-06-22 17:04:37 -0500 Report

Certainly discuss this with your dietitian.

with that in mind … I have been eating full-fat and low carb for quite sometime and I am off cholesterol medication and my last labs were :
LDL - 81
HDL - 58
Total Cholesterol - 148
Triglycerides - 47

I do eat A LOT of (non-starchy) vegetables and pretty much stick to chicken and fish.

"Big and fluffy" refers to the low density lipoproteins (LDL). eating a diet high in cholesterol and low in saturated fats is believed to be responsible for small, dense LDL which is the culprit for heart disease. A high fat low carb diet contributes to large, fluffy (buoyant) LDL which travel better through the blood system … less likely to cause issues.

Keep in mind that "fats" are higher in calories than carbs (9 per gram vs, 4) so if weight loss is a goal you need to take that into consideration.

The usual caveats apply … everything in moderation … and YMMV (Your
Mileage May Vary)

Steve

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