eating right! blood sugar going higher!

By highlandcitygirl Latest Reply 2014-09-10 20:07:14 -0500
Started 2009-02-02 09:45:42 -0600

i have been following a strickter way of eating for tha last two weeks,but every morning my b s has been steadily climbing. this morning it was 144. been doing the low carb amd good carb thing amd avoiding the bad. whats going on?

23 replies

Lakeland 2014-09-10 20:04:29 -0500 Report

I was warned about being too strict, I mean eating perfectly 3 times a day. I was told the body can think it's being starved & starting to burn the wrong thing & spiking sugars. It was suggested to me to eat proper portions, pick the carb first (eat only one. for example, either bread, or dessert or fruit) then go for the protein & veggie. a must is snack between meals so your body burns evenly throughout the day, like a glucerna bar or carrots. write things down, when I did I was surprised what & how much I was eating. right now my big down fall is watermellon, sure it's healthy it has spiked my sugars to 230. I'm really bad with fruit

anitamusser 2009-02-04 14:05:39 -0600 Report

I have Scarlet Fever when i was 12 or 13. I have heard that viruses can hurt the pancreas which can destroy the insulin producing cells.

Lakeland 2014-09-10 20:07:14 -0500 Report

I had lupron, & I believe it caused my diabetes, I had 3 surgeries do to bad periods & my pre-surgery blood work was always fine, I went on lupron to test if a hysterectomy would help my pelvic pain & next thing I was at 550. I did a search on-line & 1 report showed it caused diabetes, but the doctors won't say that

Carol11 2009-02-03 10:08:57 -0600 Report

I'm on Eltroxin 50mg. I take it around 7AM an hour before breakfast. I test then take NovoRapid to cover whatever I'm going to eat. That bg reading is the one that's climbing the most. You're supposed to wait at least an hour before eating and by then I'm starving. I'm type 1-auto-immune and in my case it was very rapid onset within a couple of weeks and because the immune system is already comprimised that makes it fair game for any other that cares to raise it's ugly head.

rbergman 2009-02-03 10:15:33 -0600 Report

It took 4 months and 57lbs of weight gain before I could convince a doctor that my daughter was NOT just going through a growth spurt because she was tested April 13th when the weight gain was starting and it was normal so nobody wanted to retest her saying she just needed a diet, I finally got a doctor to agree with me that nobody should gain 57lbs in 4 months especially a child, thats when they found her TSH was 84.40, so, even though the test in April was normal by Aug 30th (2nd test) it was off the charts. They did also warn me that it could effect more than one organ or body function, 2 months later in Nov she started giving high random readings, so they said test her 3 times a week and keep track, Jan 22 they said she was Type 2 but that it could progress to Type 1 if the antibodies kept attacking her pancreas…as you probably know as well as I do Carol, there is no cure for auto-immune failure and most times they can't find the cause of it, Laura has been through a battery of tests and no cause was ever found (a lot of things were ruled out such as tumors though thank God). She also experiences severe allergies and takes 2 diff meds a day but they only minimize the symptoms they do not get rid of them. She is also scheduled to have an allergy test done to see exactly what it is she became allergic to that didn't ever bother her before her immune system went out of whack. She also had to get both the Flu and Pneumonia shots and they suggested she get a second round of the chicken pox vaccination since she was only 2yrs old when she got the first one.
This also raises questions with me, how much is too much, for every medication/vaccination given there always seems to be side effects, some right away some later in life, I tend to wonder if taking all of this at such a young age will cause issues later for her.

GabbyPA 2009-02-03 14:20:50 -0600 Report

You are right to question "how much is too much". There are a lot of schools of thought on that, and without getting all caught up in conspiracy theories...I will just say. Medicate as little as you can. There are alternatives out there and ask your doctor about them. My husband's doctor introduced us to many more natural remidies and so did my pharmacist. Don't be afraid to say no, or at least not now...

rbergman 2009-02-03 14:27:59 -0600 Report

I did tell them no on the second Chicken Pox shot, I mean my Lord we all (or 97.8% of us) had chicken pox as a child and we turned out fine, same with measles and mumps…its just all too commercial anymore, instead of them creating vaccinations for childhood diseases that for the most part don't cause any life long issues, why not concentrate on the big ones, diabetes included!
I was also once told by an ER doctor that for every day a person that has diabetes goes undetected and/or untreated thats 3 days off their lives…this was several years ago but I still remember that. Whether he is correct or not it does make you stop and think.

GabbyPA 2009-02-03 20:26:15 -0600 Report

Wow, what an increidible statistic. That is very sobering. Just imagine, I am sure I had my diabetes for over a year without knowing...that is 3 years lost! What an incentive to get into control

rbergman 2009-02-03 20:56:00 -0600 Report

Here is part of an article I recently found at this web site:

The longer that blood sugar remains out of control, the shorter your life. Insurance statistics compiled by Equitable Life Insurance indicate that 29-year-old diabetics lived 16 years less than non-diabetics, 39-year-olds lived 11 years less, and 49-year-olds lived l0 years less (Goodkin, 1975).

Even if you aren't diagnosed as a diabetic, poor blood sugar control can have just as devastating an effect on your health and lifespan. In fact, people who are undiagnosed or borderline diabetics may have almost the same mortality as regular diabetics.

Pauline B
Pauline B 2009-02-04 13:05:03 -0600 Report

I am sobered to know that I realized things weren't right when I developed "funny" headaches after eating huge lunches at work (free food) so, knowing diabetes ran in the family, had the head nurse check my glucose levels. It read 170. She frightened me into seeing the doc immediately. The day of my appointment, the boss brought in huge Alaska bagels to staff meeting which I ate with gusto. At appt reading was 220. I had just had blood work about a month before that showed everything was OK. If I had not noticed those "funny" headaches, it would have been 7 or 8 years before a Fasting blood glucose reading would have shown up on the lab reports, and by then no telling what damage would have occurred, as I was already taking meds for hypertension.

I read on another website this morning that there's an office test (for docs to use) to perform routine A1c tests on patients that will catch more diabetes earlier. This same site had a link to an online calculator that figures the A1c to an average blood glucose reading. I've read some of you using this figure recently, but didn't know how it was calculated.

GabbyPA 2009-02-03 09:58:43 -0600 Report

Now I am curious. I too just started taking thyroid medicine, and I take it way before I test in the moring. Usually about 2 hours before. That wouldn't make my levels high in the AM would it. I have noticed lately that my numbers are worse than they were when I didn't take any metformin...oh brother.

rbergman 2009-02-03 10:03:11 -0600 Report

Our daughter leaves for school about 30 min after she takes her synthroid and by the time she gets to school she is allowed to have breakfast, my curiosity is now also spiked and I'm going to ask her Ped Endo on Friday when we go see her if that med can change her levels, maybe thats why we were told to test her after supper and not after breakfast, maybe it does elevate the level???? She only goes to school 4 days a week but leaves at 6:50am and doesn't return to bus stop till 5pm, but I can have the school test her after breakfast or lunch if need be, I will let you know what her Endo says on Friday if nobody has figured this out before then.

Carol11 2009-02-03 09:47:20 -0600 Report

So am I. I think, for now, it is the meds for hypothyroidism that I started 5 days ago. My numbers are climbing and along with it the insulin-which is NEVER a good thing. Just what I need, another auto-immune diagnosis-they just keep adding on

rbergman 2009-02-03 09:52:54 -0600 Report

Oh Carol your right up my alley now. Our daughter (7yrs old) was diagnosed with Hypothyroidism back on Sept 11, 08, she takes Synthroid 0.75mcg (micro grams because it is under 1 full mg). Here is what we were told about that med. She has to take it first thing in the morning and no soy products of any kind for at least 1 hour after taking the pill and no vitamins, minerals or supplements for 4 hours after taking it. After she was on it for 6wks they did a TSH that was in normal range at 3.6 (her diagnosed level was 84.40 first test and 132.9 second test, these were 12 days apart). Anyway, her pill doesn't seem to interfere, however, she does fasting BG in the morning and then doesn't test again until 2hrs after supper at night. I have not tested her in between time because there has not been a need to do so as of yet. Am curious what med and dosage your on, and did they tell you what caused your Thyroid issues? Her's is due to her autoimmune system failing, which is also how she developed the diabetes.

rbergman 2009-02-03 09:45:02 -0600 Report

I posted this on another discussion just this morning but maybe it fits better here lol

We had a late dinner last night, around 7pm, Laura usually does her BG aroun 8pm because we try to eat no later than 6pm (living on and running a ranch doesn't always allow that) anyway, around 9pm her BG was 207, I figured she didn't clean her finger well so we picked a different finger, used the alcohol swab and retested…210. Her levels have been so great for the past 4-5 days and then this happens and I cannot figure out why. This morning her fasting was 121 which is good, yes, but usually her fastings are in the 90s, so whatever effected it last night was still making it higher this morning. She isn't one to sneak food or candy or such and I don't have any in the house anyway and I counted carbs and she had what she has always had since starting this diet, actually a little less. We go to the Ped. Endo. on Friday so I'm not going to panic at this point but it sure makes me wonder why such a drastic change. She was also harder to get out of bed this morning though she went to bed at her normal time and said she didn't sleep good and even had a nightmare which is unusual for her as well. Being diabetic is hard enough but dealing with my own and hers both is a real stresser to say the least.

GabbyPA 2009-02-03 09:39:36 -0600 Report

Another thing to look at is that you might actually not have enough carb at night to get you thru unitl morning. Are you eating a nite time snack?

2009-02-03 05:57:49 -0600 Report

I hope you feel better Barbara. You know I still can't figure out this BS thing and it drives me crazy. Don't stress, it sounds like you are doing all the right things. I hope your BS comes down which will take a lot of this stress off you! Your friend, Angie

Pauline B
Pauline B 2009-02-02 12:52:09 -0600 Report

How long have you been diabetic, what meds do you take, when do you take your meds, and how much do you exercise. Seems to me that 2 weeks of this is enough of a trend that your doc should be advised so he/she can make some adjustments. It's frightening when things don't go as you wish them to, especially when you do everything right.

Do you weigh your foods, especially the carboyhydtaes? I know it's a pain, but recording what you eat, with weight, calories, and carb count gives an honest picture.

I say this as I decided that I wanted to drop another 10-15 pounds, and it's the only way I can do it. I use a free computer program called to log the data.

2009-02-02 11:49:51 -0600 Report

Don't have an answer off the top of my head but I'd agree to watch portion sizes on anything with carbs in it. Maybe keep a food journal for this week and write down everything (and I mean every morsel) you put in your mouth and how much of it you ate. Just for a week or even a few days might give you a clue as to what is causing it. AND it might not be food related.. could be stress, could be illness coming on, so I'd do the food diary to make sure and take a deep breath and relax. See if it helps. :)


highlandcitygirl 2009-02-02 12:20:53 -0600 Report

i have cut all my portions in less than half. for lunch i just have half of can ot tuna, or a boiled egg five triscuits and a lite string cheese and i have been eating more veggies, the right portion of meat and good carbs. if it is stress then i am going to be really sick soon!

Anonymous 2009-02-02 09:52:34 -0600 Report

What about your portions. When I am high it is usually from my portions. I eat on a salad plate. 1/2 veggies or salad. 1/4 protein, 1/4 a carb like brown rice, couscous or a small potato. My portions get out of whack when I go out. Portions at a restaurant are so big. I tend to take half of it home for lunch the next day.

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