Thyroid and Sex Hormones and Diabetes

By GabbyPA Latest Reply 2014-06-27 16:26:14 -0500
Started 2014-06-15 10:41:36 -0500

This bit of very interesting information that came to me from evaziam, a new member here. Hormones play such a huge role in our lives and we don't really think about it much. Well, here is some food for thought. This is her experience:

"My topic is the connection between hormones, especially sex and thyroid hormones and diabetes. I want people to know that if they would balance their hormones, they could have improvement in their glucose blood levels.

As we get older, our production of these hormones goes down. This is a known fact.
So many people get tired and are given antidepressants without checking their hormones.
I read that experts estimate that 1/3 of population had low thyroid and they do not even know it.
One of the reasons is that their docs do not test and the other is that docs do not know much about how to test, what to test and how to interpret the labs. My husband was one of them. Now he is perfect. I have had a thyroid problem and learned a lot of it.
Most docs test ONLY TSH (thyroid stimulating hormone) which gives some idea about the thyroid's condition. TSH is the pituitary's hormone. Pituitary gland is an overseer of the thyroid. When the thyroid is OK, the pituitary "sits" quietly and does not send much of its signal (hormone) and TSH is low. When the pituitary senses that the thyroid works too little, it "screams" "Give me more of your hormone!" and the value of TSH is higher.
TSH can be from close to zero up to 100. A good range is up to 1.5, however depending on the lab, the upper range can be as much as 4.5 which is incorrect. A person with TSH greater than 1.5 is hypothyroid.

There are other thyroid test that give a full picture of the thyroid functioning:
—Free T3
—Free T4
—Reversed T3
Do not take my word for it. I am giving you a summary. Check this web site.

I know less about it but I am learning now since I read about it and my doc confirmed it.
Sex hormones and diabetes are connected. As we have less and less sex hormones in our bodies (BOTH MEN AND WOMEN) we tend to get diabetes (and dementia and other conditions).

Sex hormones are NOT only about the sex, but the entire body's functioning—-all is connected and works with a concert…

Never, ever take any synthetic hormones, but their bio-identical versions. I asked my doc and he gave me a compounded formula and I've been on it for about 10 days AND I SEE THAT MY GLUCOSE WENT DOWN FROM 120s TO 90s AND 100s!!!!!!!!!!!!"

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evaziem 2014-06-27 09:45:12 -0500 Report

New addition.
See this article about how balancing the thyroid hormone can help prevent the heart disease in people with diabetes:

They are talking about taking pure T3 hormone, an RX called Liothyronine and its very tiny dose, like 5 mcg (micrograms) a day. The beauty of this RX is that it's bio-identical with its naturally produced thyroid hormone. Also, this T3 is the one that our cells have receptors for—meaning T3 can be absorbed into cells, not the other Ts.

This T3 is not often prescribed by docs, but it should be at least for a limited period of time. Normally, if your thyroid is found to under-produce its hormones, a doctor would prescribe Sythroid or Levothyroxine. These are synthetic and NOT bio-identical pharmaceutical creations that contain only the T4 hormone which may not be the best choice. This is especially important if one has a problem with T4 to T3 conversion, this RX is not very helpful (see the diagram linked below). Good docs give Armour Thyroid from a pig gland to their patients.

Little reminder about thyroid and its hormones:
Thyroid gland needs iodine (most people are deficient and this is one of the problems with thyroid) that we consume to produce its hormones known as T4, T3, T2, and T1. The numbers in these symbols represent the number of atoms of iodine whose chemical symbol is I.
Thus T4 has four atoms (I4), T3 has three (I3) and so on.

For example
T4's summary formula is C15H11I4NO4. It's called thyroxine
T3's summary formula is C15H12I3NO4. It's called triiodothyronine

Please ask me any questions you might have.

evaziem 2014-06-16 09:22:01 -0500 Report

Like I wrote before, never take synthetic hormones including the thyroid Rx.
I was on the synthetic synthroid, levothyroxine etc. for years before my new doc Dr. Randy James opened my eyes and gave me ARMOUR THYROID made from a pig thyroid gland. It contains all thyroid hormones: T4, T3, T2, T1 and calcitonin. The numbers in T4, T3… indicate the number of iodine atoms in the molecule—-that is why iodine is so important!

There is a very active Yahoo health group I belong to:
Everybody is welcome.

evaziem 2014-06-16 09:06:08 -0500 Report

There is a new science about our genes but doctors do not keep up with it (mine does) and do not test for it.

It turns out that many people have a defect in MTHFR gene. It does many bad things. One of them is that your body does NOT absorb vitamins B (low vitamin B12 causes dementia and older people get shots—it works winders) unless it's in its methylated form. My husband has this defect and I buy him:

tinkerbell54 2014-06-16 06:21:41 -0500 Report

I know this for a fact they do . I have hypo thyroid years & it doe affect our diabetes & our sexual hormores to. It took me 81/2 years to gt pregnant with Rain due the fact that my body did not produce a enought male hormomes to get pregnant . & the doctors told me I would never have a child but that was not the but on Oct.31, 1996 I found out I wqas pregnant with Rain my ob & gyn & my doctor can't explain how I got pregnant with Rain but GOD can . Ruth Tinkerbell54

palmal 2014-06-15 20:35:00 -0500 Report

So glad someone talked about this. I said many years ago, the doctors were not doing the complete test for thyroid. Since going to an endocrinologist I learned this from her. And the other things except for the hormones, I have learned too. Now it is time to learn more! Thanks so much for this.

Trudie Ann
Trudie Ann 2014-06-15 17:38:27 -0500 Report

Thank you Gabby for this discussion and for the web sites. I am going to ask the doctor tomorrow at my first endo appt. if I need to get tested for TSH and several other things that other people have brought up. I have felt that there was a link between diabetes and our sex hormones since I was first diagnosed as type 2. It has always been a question in the back of my mind, so now I know to ask. Thanks again.

theladyiscrazy 2014-06-15 13:29:10 -0500 Report

It is a great read BUT when dealing with a doctor that is "by the medical book" only, there needs to be a medical doctor or evidence to back it up. I am running into this problem myself.

evaziem 2014-06-27 10:11:00 -0500 Report

We need to stand up to these docs. We run our medical care and we use docs in this process. I learned this not long ago and feel liberated. I go to my doc and tell him what I want and he does it.

My liberation moment was when my new doc recommended me a web site . I bought their book. This book may not be the best resource on thyroids but it covers this important aspect of self-directing one's medical care… I "fixed" my thyroid and my husband's thyroid.

Also see New Addition I posted today.

ria 2014-06-15 12:43:53 -0500 Report

Great Article Gabbie not every Dr know what's is the right test to do .i was treated with Dr Cats in Beverly Hills but he pass away few years ago he was genius teaching in Ucla .. It take a good endocrinologist to find out if the person have it or not .

evaziem 2014-06-17 09:11:03 -0500 Report

The beauty of this new era is that we do NOT need an endocrinologist but a doc that would prescribe tests that we need and who would give us the RXs we want. You can be your own endo! I found a doc like this.

Actually, Dr. James recommended to me this web site I mentioned above:

I bought their book by the same title and it WAS MY LIBERATION MOMENT! Before, I thought that docs are gods and they know everything I need and they do everything in their power to help me. They are people who err. I know the best my own body and my husband's body and I conduct our care with the help of my doc. I AM THE DRIVING FORCE of our care. I do my research and come to my doc with proposals.

With the internet, there is some much good info to be found. One of the best sources is Dr. Mercola. I've been reading his articles since 2000.
There is a box in the upper right hand corner to type your email address and receive daily info.

Trudie Ann
Trudie Ann 2014-06-27 12:39:34 -0500 Report

Evaziem; The comes back not found.
The other site was helpful and informative.

evaziem 2014-06-27 16:07:30 -0500 Report

My son who was 18 at that time found Dr. Mercola about the year 2000 and I've been reading his articles ever since.

Dr. Mercola was one of the first ones that posted their medical advice. Many others followed and all say the same: no sugar, no grains, no processed foods if you want to be healthy…

Type1Lou 2014-06-15 11:27:21 -0500 Report

I have personal experience with the thyroid influence. After my endo reduced my levothyroxine dose from 137 mcg to 125 mcg, I noticed better BG readings even though I hadn't changed diet nor exercise. See my June 4 discussion here "Diabetes and Thyroid" Good control is all about keeping our bodies in balance.