still a long way to go ...

By haoleboy Latest Reply 2014-06-12 12:02:10 -0500
Started 2014-06-08 22:46:52 -0500
great cause, great effort by those involved but some ill-informed reporting
… guess they just don't make Journalists like they used to


28 replies

Type1Lou 2014-06-12 12:02:10 -0500 Report

While diet and exercise are major factors in CONTROLLING all types of diabetes, "poor diet" does not CAUSE Type 2 diabetes as stated in this article. Otherwise, the incidence of diabetes in the US would be vastly increased. It's sad that this reporter lent credence to an erroneous stereotype.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-06-11 12:53:23 -0500 Report

Steve, I apologize to you and everyone for my conversation with the eva person. I am no longer talking to her. I do not like it when someone takes it upon themselves and try to force their ideas down someones throat then give orders telling me what I can do. I don't follow those kinds of orders especially from someone who is of no importance to me and not a friend. Again, I am sorry for this.

Trudie Ann
Trudie Ann 2014-06-09 10:01:07 -0500 Report

Thank you for this post. It's good to hear that so many people joined in for the walk. I like hearing others are becoming more aware of the problem. I also agree that the reporter needs to be more informed about what they are reporting. He/she especially needs to learn more about type 2. and that there are so many reasons for becoming diabetic, which they are finding more reasons/causes everyday. For example genetics. My favorite saying is not all diabetics are overweight/fat and not all overweight/fat people are diabetic. Although being overweight is common in many diabetics, it is not in all diabetics. We have a long way to go before we find all the reasons for becoming diabetics. All we can do is our best. Eat a balanced meal of healthy food, and exercise as much is safe for each individual.

haoleboy 2014-06-09 14:24:50 -0500 Report

I was morbidly obese … my mother died from diabetic complications as did her mother … but I am still not convinced that those two factors are the 'cause' of my diabetes. Only 2 of the 5 children in our family have diabetes and my mother was the only one of the 4 kids in her family to have it.
I certainly think that the two may somehow be involved though.

evaziem 2014-06-09 10:44:59 -0500 Report

I agree with you, Trudie Ann, about the genetics. I would repeat:
"Not all diabetics are overweight/fat and not all overweight/fat people are diabetic."
I am one of them. I am 5'3" and 116lb.
I've been searching but could not find the genetic marker for diabetes…
Does it exist? Maybe has not been discovered yet.

jayabee52 2014-06-09 11:27:20 -0500 Report

Howdy Eva
It may more be like there may not be one genetic marker for T2, but multiples. see ~

Trudie Ann
Trudie Ann 2014-06-09 13:50:26 -0500 Report

jayabee, I read and enjoyed the article you posted here. I don't really understand genetic markers. evaziem, and jayabee, I do know my geneology on my Mothers side, and a lot of their medical history, but nothing at all on my Fathers. Not even his parents names.I have tried to find out. I even went to the Indian data base but found nothing. He said one time that they were removed because his mother left the tribe and " married a white man" So there could be genes from his side of the family since indians are at high risk of getting diabetes.

evaziem 2014-06-09 10:38:58 -0500 Report

The problem is the "balanced diet" may mean so many different things to different people. Sodas, cookies, cakes and other sweets may be considered as good for you!

The respected LPI (Linus Pauling Institute) recommends 5-6 servings of "whole grains" a day!!!! I wrote them a letter that because of this recommendation I am cancelling my subscription. LPI is not respected by me anymore…

Pegsy 2014-06-09 12:52:21 -0500 Report

I barely eat that many servings of whole grains in a week!

evaziem 2014-06-09 15:07:04 -0500 Report

Is LPI in bed with grain growers?
I have had no a gram of grains since Nov 2011 when I saw online video "The bitter truth" with Dr. Robert Lustig, M.D. of California University that Paleo diet can reverse diabetes 2…

haoleboy 2014-06-09 15:44:21 -0500 Report

I have yet to reverse my diabetes … and no, I do not follow a primal diet.
I eat oatmeal 2-3 time a week and whole grain 'crisp breads' occasionally …
everything in moderation
I thought you had said it did for you.

evaziem 2014-06-09 15:49:12 -0500 Report

I was pre-diabetic but after implementing the Paleo I keep my A1C in normal range.
I AM CONVINCED if I would eat pizza, grains, sweets, I would be on insulin now. I tried pizza and measured… not good! I will never have a bite of pizza (any bread) or cake or cookie, ever!

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-06-10 18:37:56 -0500 Report

A lot of people who are pre-diabetic will not become diabetic. My mother was pre-diabetic and never developed diabetes. I changed her diet. I do not believe in the Paleo Diet and I know that Diabetes cannot be reversed.

evaziem 2014-06-11 08:39:09 -0500 Report

How do you call what happened to your mother, not a reversal?

Let me ask you, was she still pre-diabetic or not? Very important for me to know how it works.

Also you said you changed her diet. How? It would be helpful to know.

evaziem 2014-06-11 10:39:35 -0500 Report

Everybody must be pre-diabetic before the real onset of diabetes, but may not know it.

Perhaps, when a pre-diabetic would take an aggressive action like your mother, he/she may never develop the real disease.

So it's important to test BGL, especially if there is a family history and apply, what I call, a dietary intervention.

evaziem 2014-06-11 11:09:01 -0500 Report

I do not know what you mean.

This is a public discussion and other people read it and are being addressed.

haoleboy 2014-06-09 15:55:37 -0500 Report

I'll agree with you on processed flours and sugar. neither are in my 'diet'
I have no beef with the paleo diet… just don't try and tell me that genetically it is the way we are supposed to eat (somehow ignoring the changes to our species over the past 10,000+ years)

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-06-10 18:39:38 -0500 Report

Not giving up my beef. I don't have a vitamin K issue either and I was raised eating kale. However with certain medications, some people cannot have green leafy veggies. My aunt couldn't have kale, collards, lettuce, cabbage or other green leafy veggies because of her medication.

evaziem 2014-06-09 09:05:54 -0500 Report

About D2—No cure is possible unless people would change their eating habits. Thanks to a 50 year long campaign that "eating meat and fat is bad," the population switched to more and more carbs with a record high consumption of sugar in sodas, snacks, cookies, cakes and ice cream for deserts—must have a desert!!

The high fructose corn syrup (HFCS) is added to prepared foods so people would like them and buy and buy more…

The spin about the whole grains being so good for you is the crown jewel of this misleading propaganda that makes people sick and the tsunami of obesity and diabetes 2 are examples that it works…

There is more besides the obesity and DT2 and high carbs diet:
"One of the primary underlying causes of high blood pressure is related to your body producing too much insulin and leptin in response to a high-carbohydrate and processed food diet."

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