Where did I go wrong?

By AAHN Latest Reply 2014-07-29 22:01:54 -0500
Started 2014-05-17 17:17:18 -0500

This is my 3rd day of using Humalog. I was doing good for a minute; meaning today. My 3pm lunch raised my BS from 111 to 251. I had a ChicFilA Asian salad with honey sesame dressing and decided to eat a sm bag of SmartFood popcorn. The salad dressing has 14gr sugar / 16gr carbs. I think the dressing was a mistake. It also had mandarin orange. I thought the popcorn would be ok w/9gr carbs and 1gr sugar. Could not drinking enough water effect your BS? Any advice?

15 replies

IamBubbely 2014-07-29 22:01:54 -0500 Report

Yes…water..water and more water. That was also something that helped me get to where I am now from the depressed mess that I was…!

AAHN 2014-05-17 23:43:32 -0500 Report

I agree. Both members and yourself are helpful I really appreciate your responses Right now this carb thing is a little overwhelming. I've been ignoring my diabetes for months. You see I had a grave misunderstanding of my situation.

Type1Lou 2014-05-18 10:26:25 -0500 Report

I was diagnosed Type 1 in 1976 but it wasn't until the early 2000's that I started getting serious about the carbs I eat. The turning point for me was reading Dr Richard Bernstein's book "Diabetes Solution". He is a Type 1 himself and developed a very low carb nearly no carb approach to managing his diabetes. While I indulge in more carbs than Dr Bernstein would advocate, his book opened my eyes to the BIG role played by the carbs we diabetics consume and it motivated me to reduce them. Learn as much as you can…try not to be overwhelmed…take it one step at a time. This is a great site for support and information. Glad you're here!

jayabee52 2014-05-17 23:58:53 -0500 Report

You're no different than me when first Dx'd in 1995 AANH. I had ignored my T2 for about 1 yr and had a lot of learning to do about carbs.

But please stick with us and ask questions and you will learn a lot of things about a lot of things, including carbs. In fact I believe that the only foolish or stupid question here is an HONEST question which is NOT asked!


Nick1962 2014-05-17 19:39:31 -0500 Report

Lou knows her stuff, between her and Steve (haoleboy), you’ve got some dead on answers. The only few things I might add is (1) unless you planned on getting some good exercise in after that meal, you way overdid it in both sugars and carbs, and (2) as you’ve already indicated, you’ll have to learn some on carbs and foods in general.

Popcorn might seem safe, but the carbs are all basically “empty” carbs, meaning they bring virtually no additional nutritional value. The carbs in the salad (if we do away with the crispy wonton strips and dressing) come partially from the breading on the chicken, and the additional nuts and wonton strips. Because the chicken and nuts come with a good deal of protein (which the body wants), those carbs tend not to be absorbed as readily. And yup, the honey sesame dressing – not a good choice. Carb for carb, you’d probably been better off with the grilled chicken sandwich. And as Steve alludes to, that salad would probably be two portions for me. The added popcorn – might have just as well had a slice of white bread with butter - almost pure carbs going straight into the bloodstream.

As a T1, I know you can’t “experiment” with your diet without some potentially serious consequences. Hang around and ask questions – some of us T2’s have had that luxury and have had some fun doing it for you.

haoleboy 2014-05-17 19:49:31 -0500 Report

have you noticed spikes when eating popcorn before? corn and rice always spike me something fierce. I just avoid them completely. seems we all have our 'kryptonite' as it were … maybe yours is popcorn too.

Nick1962 2014-05-18 12:14:48 -0500 Report

Yup, corn and rice in all forms. Like James says, some forms worse than others, which really sucks because I grew up in the Midwest and cob corn was a weekly diet staple in the summer. Fritos are pretty much my kryptonite for sure, but since I've been serious about my diet, the recovery is much better when I do opt to take the hit.

jayabee52 2014-05-17 23:47:54 -0500 Report

Corn and rice also spike me as well, but not popcorn.

On another occasion I looked up: Corn, sweet, white, frozen, kernels cut off cob, boiled, drained, without salt on Nutrition self ~ http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetable... and discovered that had a carbohydrate count of 58 (per 284 gm serving). Whereas plain old airpopped popcorn for an 8 gm serving size pulled down only 6 gm of carbs. A lot of difference there.

So perhaps popcorn by itself is not fo be feared as much as you think. Of course YMMV.

I have been unable to find the nutritional listings of the smart food popcorn. (Darn Frito Lay for hiding that info)
Plus she didn't mention which variety of smart food popcorn she ate and how much of it. Some of those choices would seem to be not so smart for a PWD.

Nick1962 2014-05-18 12:11:56 -0500 Report

James, I did find Smartfood popcorn on nutritiondata.self, but there seems to be no plain flavor - all white cheese or other and all at least 14g carbs per serving with little protein.

AAHN 2014-05-17 23:36:10 -0500 Report

I do know that French fries spikes me, perhaps I will add popcorn to that list. I glance thru a book I have that popcorn does cause a rapid BS increase

Type1Lou 2014-05-17 17:49:52 -0500 Report

Are you dosing your meal-time insulin based on the total carbs you are eating at any meal? This is a must if you are to control your BG's. Your doctor can help you determine how much insulin to take based on a carb ratio that works for you…we're all different and there's no "One size fits all". (My ratios range from 23 grams of carb to one unit of insulin to 25 grams of carb per unit depending upon the time of day. I use an insulin pump and am considered more sensitive to insulin than most people with a sensitivity factor of 100 and 110, again depending upon time of day. The sensitivity factor indicates how much one unit of insulin will drop your BG.) Eating out is a challenge. If you know where you'll be eating and it's a national chain, most of them have websites with the nutritional values, including carbs, of their menu items. I always check this before going to a restaurant like Appleby's or Chili's. You'll be surprised by how many carbs are in some items you thought were "safe". I use Humalog in my pump and was using Novolog and Lantus when I was on MDI (Multiple Daily Injections). It wasn't until I got serious about accurately counting the carbs I was eating that I gained better control.

AAHN 2014-05-17 18:41:44 -0500 Report

Last week was my first endo visit. He gave me a chart and told me to start with 5units. Comparing my BS levels (lunch to lunch -dinner to dinner) and increase 1 unit increments because my before/after reading should have a difference of 40 or less. I see the endo again in 3 weeks.
Okay so while I'm comparing BS levels… I need to get an understanding of carbs…like amount and value I also take lantus at night

haoleboy 2014-05-17 17:47:53 -0500 Report

the salad and dressing totaled 40 g of carbs (25 g of sugar) almost 1/2 again as many carbs in the salad as in the dressing … that would do it for me (but then I'm type 2 not using insulin)


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