How healthy can we eat???

By artqween Latest Reply 2014-05-20 18:37:38 -0500
Started 2014-05-09 16:20:33 -0500

Hi Peeps!!!! :), Happy great Health to all!!
How healthy can we eat??? Your suggestions,… Recipes, thoughts,
I recommend cook with 0 calorie cooking spray canola oil flavor, avoid fats in the
meat department, lots of high fiber foods:
oatmeal, v-8 juice, prune juice,…
broccoli, cauliflower,…

As we all know eating is really healthy
foods and when.. is just as vital as taking
your d2 rx , insulin,..

And lowering your greasy food restaurant
visits possibly ?? I know I!!!! Not that right???

24 replies

artqween 2014-05-20 18:37:38 -0500 Report

In my opinion there only one way to eat the healthiest way..
grease free, fat free,
fry free, not so much sugary treats such a bowl full of ice cream, and hill top filled with extras bringing possibly your blood reading to a possible
300 plus when you get it tested by a test strip??

It's just possibly sticking with the food parimid and what Lady Obama recommended a while back? Lots of high fiber veges, lean beef, turkey, chicken if ur Dr. say fine depending on your severity of your condition??
And some fruits ( in small portion) (depending on your condition of diabetes) maybe good for diabetes of course, plez check with ur doctor first??
Never give up gang

jayabee52 2014-05-10 12:15:08 -0500 Report

Howdy Qween,

One of the things I noticed in your discussion above is you asked for our "suggestions,… Recipes, thoughts". Then as I read down through all the posts answering this discussion, you seemed to try to pick a fight with those who answered with their thoughts on the matter.

I, like Joyce, also cannot eat oatmeal, even the "steel cut" or "Irish oatmeal" as even that spikes my Blood Glucose (BG) too much for my liking. So even though I really like to eat oatmeal, I have determined through testing that it is not something I should eat.

You of course may be different as we each respond to the same foods, drinks and medications differently. One of the things I suggest you do to find out which foods and drinks "play nice" with your metabolism and which do not. I have posted a discussion where one can find out which foods and drinks spike you and which leave you with a relatively slow rise in your BG levels. You can find that here ~ Should you read through this, please do me the kindness of posting your thoughts on the process.

God's best to you and yours

James Baker

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-05-11 12:39:42 -0500 Report

James I got the same impression. It was like the foods she listed were foods we should eat because she said so and didn't like the fact that we said the foods were not good for everyone.

Who is she to tell me that butter will kill me. So will a bus, train, falling in the bathtub etc… If I want butter from time to time I am going to eat it. My doctor doesn't have a problem with it.

Don't tell us what to eat then try to pick a fight because we don't agree. Each person has a right to agree or disagree.

artqween 2014-05-10 13:35:19 -0500 Report

????? so I am not allowed to disagree? Or express :(??? That's one side…

jayabee52 2014-05-10 13:38:08 -0500 Report

of course you can respectfully disagree. That is what JJ said. However so many times you say stuff which many ppl know is incorrect.

I often feel embarrassed for you when you spout off stuff that you about which you seem to know little to nothing.
Like once you suggested that "cottage fries" were good for a newly Dx'd Person with diabetes (PWD) to eat. Every cottage fries I've ever seen is made of white potatoes cut up coarser than french fries and deep fat fried. (Deep fat frying is WAY worse than JJ eating butter). So often your advice is not only wrong but can be downright dangerous. Then it is up to those who know better to try to correct your erroneous information, lest someone be led down the wrong path.

Glucerna 2014-05-09 22:19:46 -0500 Report

Would it be easier if there was one set way of eating that promoted health and worked for everyone? Until that day comes (if it does) each person needs to figure out what is best for their individual situation. The current research is showing that a Mediterranean-style of eating promotes overall good health and can also help manage diabetes. ~Lynn @Glucerna

Nick1962 2014-05-19 14:35:25 -0500 Report

You raise an interesting point Lynn. There is actually one set way of eating that promotes health and we need only look to the animal kingdom (and some human cultures) to see it. I spent many years on a farm and truth be told, very rarely were the animals sick. One of the reasons was because they instinctively ate what they could process, and did so every meal, every day. Feline and canine diabetes doesn’t occur in the wild, nor does obesity. Our domesticated pets suffer from these issues because WE decided what they should eat, and started feeding them all sorts of grain based foods, which is not their native diet.

Many world human cultures have thrived the same way (and still do) by following a limited, repetitive diet. In some cultures (like the Australian Aborigines), the introduction of white flour (from the western world), marked the beginning of the end for them health wise.

For myself and my diet, I’ve found I can maintain a decent BG level as long as I maintain a routine diet (M-F my meals are almost always the same), but few people are willing to give up the variety they enjoy.

Glucerna 2014-05-20 16:41:08 -0500 Report

You bring up something really interesting Nick. Having more choice in our food is wonderful, but on the other hand perhaps that's the reason why so many people struggle. We know that taste is the primary reason people eat certain foods, and that if we're exposed to a high-salt, high-fat, high-sugar processed food diet as children, those are the tastes we learn to prefer. I'm glad you've found a system that works for you. ~Lynn @Glucerna

artqween 2014-05-10 06:52:05 -0500 Report

???? fruit that is recommended by ur dr. for
particular diabetics. Publix brand org. Oatmeal has no sugar nor fat in it. FYI. Just checkd. :-/.

jayabee52 2014-05-10 12:20:20 -0500 Report

The issue is not sugar or fat in the oatmeal, The issue is carbohydrates. Many of us are spiked by the carbohydrates in the oatmeal. If you are not spiked by the carbs in oatmeal you are fortunate. In my answer above I suggested a way to check your BG levels for many foods. .

haoleboy 2014-05-10 12:19:04 -0500 Report

it's not about the sugar content of foods … it's all about the carbohydrates. grains and most fruits are high in carbohydrates and should be avoided or eaten in very limited quantities.
have you been diagnosed with diabetes? if so you need to consult a diabetes counselor or a dietitian for assistance in meal planning.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-05-09 17:39:31 -0500 Report

I use vegetable oil, real butter now and then, V-8 juice is high in sugar and salt and Prune juice is almost pure sugar. Oatmeal though heart healthy is high in carbs. I eat read meat for the protein.

The only thing I agree with is broccoli, cauliflower and olive oil.

Each person has to eat what is best for them and your suggestions are not good ones.

artqween 2014-05-09 17:43:27 -0500 Report

A well known Dr. recommended oatmeal and grits.
Oatmeal is heel sugar what are talking about. It's recommended by the heart association? To lower numbers. Really??

jayabee52 2014-05-19 13:36:13 -0500 Report

The heart Assn is looking at HEART HEALTHY foods there, not diabetes friendly foods.

BTW I googled "heel sugar" and could not find any significant references. So what do you mean by "heel sugar"?

haoleboy 2014-05-09 18:29:45 -0500 Report

oatmeal, like other grains is high in carbohydrates, but has a fairly low 'glycemic index' which means for some people the carbs will be converted to glucose slower than some other foods.
to control my cholesterol I have eaten rolled oats (avoid 'instant' oatmeal) almost every morning for the past 18 months, but I'm fortunate that my bgl returns to normal levels soon after eating (exercising after breakfast helps)

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-05-09 18:02:24 -0500 Report

(1/2 cup) of cooked steel-cut oats has 150 calories, 5 g protein, 27 g carbs, 2 g fat and 4 g fiber

following a low-carb diet, oatmeal, like any other grain-based food, constitutes a rich source of carbohydrates. Each person can process foods differently and since oatmeal is carb rich and it is a grain, not everyone can eat it. So yes it will help with cholesterol and heart health but it is not good for all diabetics. I can't eat it.

haoleboy 2014-05-09 16:36:23 -0500 Report

we can eat very healthy by avoiding canola and using coconut oil, olive oil and butter instead,
red meat in moderation (3-4 oz. portions) … an excellent source of protein.
all about high fiber but …
oatmeal is high in carbs.
V8 is high in sugar and sodium
prune juice is WAY high in sugar
but I do agree on the cauliflower and especially broccoli.

Eat healthy, unprocessed single ingredient foods as much as possible and avoid fast foods like the plague.


Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-05-09 17:40:45 -0500 Report

I agree with you Steve. I don't know where he got his information because the carbs are high in what she suggested. I eat real butter and drink whole milk in moderation and with food allergies I can't use any kind of nut product.

artqween 2014-05-09 17:30:38 -0500 Report

Actually thats the opposite using butter, can kill ya.
Butter is loaded in fats plus.. :0
Canola is a necessary oil that your skin needs for elasticity… however eating lean meats is a plus though..

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-05-09 21:45:57 -0500 Report

Getting hit by a bus can kill only it will be faster than butter killing you. Mineral oil is also good for the skin. I mix it in body lotion.

If a person eats 2 pieces of toast with half teaspoon of butter everyday that is not going to kill them. Eating a pound of butter every day will create a problem health wise.

Eating foods in moderation is not going to kill you but while the oatmeal is good for the heart and cholesterol, it will raise your blood sugar depending on how fast your body processes the carbohydrates in the oatmeal. Each person can be different. It raises mine. I will not go near the instant kind because that is definitely not good for you.

haoleboy 2014-05-09 17:53:16 -0500 Report

perhaps organic non-hydrogenated canola.
moderate amounts of quality butter have numerous health benefits.
"fat" is not a bad thing, they are essential for good health… and diabetics would benefit from eating fats … nuts (and nut butters), avocados, olives (oil as well), and cold water fish. moderation in all things …


haoleboy 2014-05-09 17:56:50 -0500 Report

I must add … if it works for you and you can keep your cholesterol, blood pressure and A1c in normal ranges … then go for it!