How many times a day do you test your blood sugar levels?

By caragypsy Latest Reply 2009-04-21 11:17:25 -0500
Started 2009-01-12 21:00:38 -0600

My GP told me to only test in the morning before eating. I've read here that most of you test many times a day.
Can someone tell me why this is.

73 replies

aq 2009-04-21 11:17:25 -0500 Report

I test 4x a day before every meal and at bedtime. It let's you know what's going on inside it's the only real way of knowing what's going on. You know your sugar can be down to 60 and not feel it. TEST! TEST!

Richard157 2009-04-19 10:08:35 -0500 Report

I test 12 times per day following the routine that tmana suggested. I used to test less but the more frequent testing has given me much better control with fewer highs and lows. Frequent testing enables me to see the oncoming highs and lows and I get the chance to correct them before they are bad.

Ashalka 2009-04-19 10:07:55 -0500 Report

Not nearly as many as I should. It should be approx. 8 times daily but if i get it done 3 times its a good day. I really need to try harder to do it the way I need to.

freddyg2u 2009-04-18 20:50:08 -0500 Report

I test 7 times a day. My BG is running high in the AM before I eat but once I'm up and moving it drops to a steady 145 to 155, which is great for me. Fred

MMoore42 2009-02-27 00:52:13 -0600 Report

I test 4 times a day, my dr says that since my blood sugar is so out of control that he wants me to keep good records and this way he can look at what time of the day or what days my blood sugar is out of control. Then we can try to pin point what I ate or what was wrong with me that day.

tira 2009-02-26 12:42:57 -0600 Report

i tested nearly 3-6 times,
depending on my needs,
or when i think my bg control has gone haywire =p

tira 2009-02-26 12:42:24 -0600 Report

i tested nearly 3-6 times,
depending on my needs,
or when i think my bg control has gone haywire =p

Amy Togtman
Amy Togtman 2009-02-26 12:27:03 -0600 Report

I test several times a day depending on how i feel if i notice that i'm not feeling right i check my bs and if it is not normal i either take insulin to lower bs or i eat sugar to make my bs go up so I test to see if what i'm doing is working

2009-02-15 23:14:54 -0600 Report

Being on a pump, I test alot, sometimes 7 times a day. If I have a 'sick day', that increases to every 2 hours. I need to know what my sugars are doing!

rbergman 2009-02-15 12:50:45 -0600 Report

I myself am on 7 tests a day, before and after each meal and before bed, sometimes in the middle of the night if things don't feel right and wake me.
An A1C is a 3 month average test that has mostly been done at the doctors office but now can be done at home as well…Wal-Mart carries them as well as several diabetes web sites.
When my daughter was first thought to be diabetic they said test her fasting in the morning only, so thats what I did, after seeing a second Ped Endo, and being diagnosed a true diabetic we were told to test her fasting, and 2 hours after dinner at night. They also put her on Metformin that at the end of a 4week period. For the first 2 wks it was test fasting and 2hr after dinner, on the 3rd week she will begin to take a pill with breakfast so then it will be fasting, 2hr after breakfast and 2 hrs after dinner, as will it be when she is up to full dosage of 4pills (2000mg) a day. We are to also do random after lunch tests during the first week she is taking the 3 pills a day…
As I stated in another discussion no 2 diabetes are exactly alike so our responsibilities like testing can vary a lot.

jtcobjr. 2009-02-15 12:00:25 -0600 Report

i'm told to not test at all, i choose to test 3 times a day. It's the way I learned to take care of myself. My sugar is well controled. I don't take meds anymore, because of that.

rbergman 2009-02-15 12:52:26 -0600 Report

Glad your under control but I don't get being told not to test at all…seems a little on the extreme side lol, I would do as you do if told that, still test 3 times a day.

Kevin L
Kevin L 2009-01-25 16:52:05 -0600 Report

I test once a day. either before breakfast, after dinner or before dinner. I think that some people test several times a dat because they have to watch for lows.

Angie - 14113
Angie - 14113 2009-01-20 07:11:59 -0600 Report

I test my blood sugar 7 to 8 times a day. It really helps me maintain a normal level.

Cathy Swier
Cathy Swier 2009-01-24 23:51:11 -0600 Report

I am testing 3 times a day, my doc wa nts to see how my sugar is doing,and to see if my n ew meds. are working,it helps me to watch what I'm eating also.

GabbyPA 2009-01-19 14:33:22 -0600 Report

Testing is just a part of my daily routine now. I always test right when I get up, usually before my exercise. Then I test before breakfast. I used to not test again until before dinner then after dinner. Now I am experimenting and trying to tie down my ups and downs and things that cause them. So I am testing before and after every meal and before bed. That is the one I forget the most often...but I have a chart and it helps me set goals for my before and after levels. I Keep pushing it lower and striving for better control

Investor 2009-01-18 14:32:38 -0600 Report

Hello I test once a day unless I start feeling strange.
When I was told that I was type 2 my Ac1 was 13 and way out of control four months later it is 6.5 but I still watch what I eat and stay active.
Life i good today and I enjoy living it.

Saphire 2009-01-18 13:27:30 -0600 Report

I test 4 - 6 times a day. I do this to know what my bs is and to keep it under better control. Throughout the day my sugars are all over the place and inorder to know how much insulin to take I need to test my bs.

highbs 2009-01-18 10:15:17 -0600 Report

Up until recently, I tested very seldom. I had gotten very lazy and because my sugar was always way too high (300+ in the morning) and nothing worked until I started taking Lantus insulin once a day.

But things changed early this month when I had a near-death experience. I was on blood thinners and Celebrex and I also had not been faithful in getting my blood checked for thinness (Protime).

I began bleeding internally because my blood was too thin and the Celebrex had caused an ulcer, so I was rushed to the ER and admitted to the hospital.

My sugar was also high — over 500 — and after an injection for pain, they found me face down in bed, not breathing or responding. They had to revive me.

I now pay more attention to my BS and Protime! I had no idea it could be so easy to die in my sleep!

tmana 2009-01-18 09:18:58 -0600 Report

There are several reasons for testing, and these will determine to some degree the frequency to which one needs to test.

To get a basic idea of one's A1c (long term blood glucose), a morning fasting reading (for all pwd) and an evening reading before dinner (for T1) or 2 hours after dinner (for T2) will give a rough estimate.

However, since most diabetes-related damage is due to both high overall blood glucose levels and fluctuations in blood glucose level, one needs to know how food affects blood glucose levels, and to adapt one's diet and insulin intake (if appropriate) accordingly. Readings taken just before, and approximately 2 hours after, eating (anything!) will give you some idea of what your food choices are doing to your blood glucose levels. If you are on an insulin regimen that includes mealtime insulin, the before-meals check, plus being able to estimate what you will be eating, should help you manage your insulin properly. The after-meal check will tell you if you correctly estimated your food (all types of diabetes) and insulin (if on insulin) to minimize spikes in your blood glucose levels. (If you are not on insulin and consistently read high after meals, you may need to change your diet — either specific foods or portion sizes — or your medication regimen, or both.)

If you feel low, or off, testing will confirm whether you need to eat something, or whether you're feeling similiar symptoms due to stress or other reasons. Additional tests when you are sick or stressed — especially if you are T1 or on insulin — will give you information to more tightly monitor your blood glucose levels.

One should ALWAYS test before getting behind the wheel of a motor vehicle, and every couple of hours on long drives. Hypoglycemia is one of the greatest driving hazards that people with diabetes can pose to themselves and others, and should be avoided at all costs. (It is also a good idea to keep glucose tabs or something similar in the glove box.)

Also, people who use a continuous glucose monitor (CGM) need to finger-test more frequently to calibrate the sensors of the CGM and to get accurate spot readings (the CGMs lag and are more useful for trend analysis and for hypoglycemia unawareness).

The counterbalances to all of this are the cost of testing supplies, test-site soreness, and the feeling of obsessiveness. If you can manage to check this frequently without either going completely broke or feeling cornered by your diabetes, it is best to do so. In the end, you will probably end up with some compromise between the least amount of testing and the most amount of testing, with some day-to-day variability.

sbose 2009-01-18 09:13:55 -0600 Report

I am now on Insulin Pump, which is a GREAT help of managing blood sugar level.
Please check with yopur doctor.
If you need more information, I could give you some info.
Also the same company providing another great tool to monitor 24 hrs blood glucose level.

Its a great great help !!

Labsmom 2009-01-17 22:23:40 -0600 Report

I test 2x a day, morning and 2 hours after evening meal unless I have had a meds change and then I do it 4 or 5 times.
I also have high blood sugar levels in the mornings (160's) and normal to low (46-60) in the late afternoons. My doctor is trying to get my morn levels down but it seems to drag my others too low. I take my meds in the morn and before bed. Lantus also before bed.
Anyone have any suggestions for getting my morning levels lower or things I should have checked or look out for?

lcf74 2009-01-17 23:16:25 -0600 Report

I am Type 1 so I test at least 7 times a day. I take synthroid and was told to wait at least one hour to eat after taking it. My BG will go up if it is below 100 when I get up. Unless it is real low I take a shot when I get up. Will test again before I eat. Will test before I eat anything and that is the last thing I do before going to bed.

DLM 2009-01-17 23:43:53 -0600 Report

Hi Labsmom, I read your post about your sugars being high in the morning and that you take Lantis at night, I don't know how much Lantis you take at night, but maybe you need to take more to have lower sugars in the morning.
I am type 1 and I also take Lantis at night. I take 8 units at night and my sugsrs in the morning range from 95 to 110 which is really good.

Sandi C
Sandi C 2009-01-17 19:22:50 -0600 Report

I am using an insulin pump,and I check when I get up in the morning. If I am high I let the pump calculate and inject
my insulin if need be if its alright I have breakfast then count my carbs and check again 1 or 2 hrs after I eat and the pump and I do our thing again. I have to check before and after meals, and before I go to bed and when I get up in the mornings.
You have to check your blood levels thru the to to keep track of your levels because you are eating off and on thru the day, and you may have some levels of stress, or anything else that may cause you levels to either rise or even just as bad to drop real fast. In checking you levels at times through the day also lets you get some idea if your medications are working. If I were you I would do some further research on the matter.

mary stevens
mary stevens 2009-01-17 18:52:25 -0600 Report

I have to check mine 4 times a day and sometimes I have a low after midnight so I try to keep mine above 180, if it it lower than that I have a reaction before I get up in the morning. I take 21 units of Lantus before bed and also 1000 mg. metformin and 15 mg. glipizide during the day along with watching what I eat and work 4-5 hours a day.

JaredLahti 2009-01-17 18:47:52 -0600 Report

I tested 2 times a day for the first 6 months but since October my A1C has been at 5.6 so I am testing 2 times a day for another week and then I get to start testing once a day and as long as everything stays in the normal range I will be allowed to reduce it to once every couple of days.

sparkysmom 2009-01-17 18:19:48 -0600 Report

My new Dr told me to test first thing when I wake up in AM, Before a different meal each day, an hour after that meal and before bed at night.

Pauline B
Pauline B 2009-01-17 18:07:40 -0600 Report

My diabetic doc said that because my A1c hhad been between 5.5 and 5.7 for over a year I needed to test only once a day, and wrote the prescription for only 1 test/day. I have good medical insurance coverage. Then my internist ordered Niaspan and one of the side effects is increased glucose readings. When the prescription for test strips needed to be renewed I asked my internist to renew it for 3x/day testing. I always test fasting, and then whenever I think about it during the day. I've been Type 2 for over 10 years so know the triggers, and basically, if my 2 hour post-prandial reading is over 180 i've eaten something I should not have. I see the diabetic doctor more for other endocrine reasons.

shepherdsrgrt 2009-01-17 17:27:22 -0600 Report

I'm type II and experimenting with Byetta. Also still on long and short acting insulin. Seems like a bit much. I have to test before/after each meal and at bed time. 7 times. The insurance apparently doesn't agree with my doctor because they only allow a certain number of strips/lancets. I run out mid way through the month. No wonder so many people can't get it under control.

Sacrobear 2009-01-17 17:00:12 -0600 Report

I have always checked my blood sugars 4 times a day. That way I can see if the medication is doing its job. I now do it 7 times a day because I am taking Symlin via Pen just before eating a meal and it appears to be doing the job of not allowing sugar to rush in my body after eating. I can only do this by taking a Blood Sugar test 2 hours after eating.

swimmomkt 2009-01-17 16:22:05 -0600 Report

what you want to know here is not how many times everyone else checks their blood sugar levels, you appear to know that already. I can tell you this much. I only check my blood sugar levels once a day as well. That is because my A1c levels are good now, and my blood sugars have been stable.

grandmafox 2009-01-17 15:55:31 -0600 Report

i have type 2 i take novalog 70/30 3 times a day so i hane to test 4 times a daay to make sure that i am on track . i

lccb 2009-01-17 15:37:00 -0600 Report

There are several reasons to test your sugar more than once a day. Certain medications has adverse affects on your sugar level. For me steriods definitely keep my sugar levels up once I recive a steroid shot and I must maintain regular checks or my sugar goes sky high over 500.. Therefore I have to increase my insulin accordingly.

ElizabethSC 2009-01-17 15:08:31 -0600 Report

Some People are different from others, like me my doctor told me to test before meals and after and at bed time. It all depends on your doctor.

cammers 2009-01-17 14:52:35 -0600 Report

I am type one, and have been working really hard over the last 12 months to get my HbA1c below 6.5%. On that basis I've been testing 10-12 times a day. I used to be lucky to test twice a week, so it's a big step change for me!

DiabetesDiva 2009-01-13 11:12:43 -0600 Report

I think it depends on your level of the disease. I am a type 2 and was diagnosed with a blood sugar level of 155. I test 3X a day: before breakfast, 2 hours after breakfast and before dinner. Testing is a good reminder for me to eat healthy.


Anonymous 2009-01-13 10:37:39 -0600 Report

I am type 2. I test once when I get up, before a meal and before any meds. Then before lunch and then 2 hours after. Then before bed. Sometimes if I do not feel right I will test more, but usually only 4 times a day.

2009-01-13 07:00:55 -0600 Report

I test normally 5 times a day. The reason is I was on human insulin and I my BS was getting to a dangerous low each day. My doctor changed my insulin to a non-human insulin last week and I am still testing a lot to see if it has helped. So far it has, it has only gone below 50 twice in a week which is great compared to what it was doing. (Now I'll be checking in the middle of the night because I believe it is still dropping at night, I just didn't know about it) Thanks! Angie

Debe Pendice
Debe Pendice 2009-01-13 07:09:13 -0600 Report

I have now checking at 3 AM. Not fun at all.

Meridian - 26751
Meridian - 26751 2009-01-13 09:58:35 -0600 Report

Hey Debe, that's what time I have to get up for work.

2009-01-13 10:49:00 -0600 Report

Lol Debe and Ken, we can all chat at 3am since we're all up now! Angie

2009-01-13 10:52:52 -0600 Report

Sorry to comment again. Debe I checked at 3am this morning and it was 40 and was having those horrible nightmares. I checked it again around 6am and it came up to 101 after drinking a cup of orange juice. (I drank the OJ at 3am.)

Debe Pendice
Debe Pendice 2009-01-13 11:09:26 -0600 Report

I was told to drink milk when my BS gets low, I didn't think it would work and it actually does. I only drink skim milk..

Anonymous 2009-01-13 11:18:42 -0600 Report

Wow, I have never heard of drinking milk. I drink a little Cherry Coke. Or I eat a handful of gummi bears. Or a snack size candy bar.

toadie 2009-01-17 14:55:04 -0600 Report

When you feel shaky do you take your BS? And if so is it low? Just because you feel low doesn't mean it's low, it's just your brain reacting to not having all of the sugar it's used to when you are eating right, taking your meds., and checking BS levels 4 x's a day.
I wish I could afford to take mine 4 x's a day I do what I can.
I been eating way better, and trying to do more.

My problem is I have sleep apnea with the Diabetes Type II and I am obese. So, yea it's very hard, but I feel better ever since I went back to the doc, got on the right meds. and been thinking more clearly.
Hagn Kimm

MeiMei 2009-01-13 12:15:36 -0600 Report

The protein in the milk is what helps. Protein helps keep the blood sugar even over a longer period of time, not too high or too low. Sugary drinks are for immediate relief of too low bs, but they should always be followed up with complex carbs or protein or a little of both.

Debe Pendice
Debe Pendice 2009-01-13 05:44:25 -0600 Report

I am testing to get the pump for a month 7-8Xs aday, but almost done with it. But I do check 4Xs daily. Breakfast, Lunch, Supper and before bed…Debe

Bluebutterfly 2009-01-13 05:16:00 -0600 Report

I test three times a day. I test before breakfast,before lunch and before I go to bed to see if I need a snack.I am typell. My endo has me testing three times.

Meridian - 26751
Meridian - 26751 2009-01-13 05:03:03 -0600 Report

I am Type 2. I test twice a day. The first test is in the morning as soon as I get up and before I eat or drink anything. The second time is two hours after my lunchtime meal begins. For me this is roughly 12 hours between testing. I take my morning meds right after the morning test and my evening meds within a couple of hours of my afternoon test. Aside from knowing what my sugar is both in a.m. and p.m., testing like this keeps me thinking about what I am eating or snacking on all day long.

toadie 2009-01-17 14:52:25 -0600 Report

If you are testing 12 hours a part like that does that mean you are eating 12 hours apart? Because if so that's not good, Diabetics should eat at least every 5 hours. I check my BS when I can afford the strips I do not have insurance, so therefore there is nothing I can do about that.
I am getting free supplies while they are trying to find my Indian GGmother on the Indian Heritage Rolls, pray they do because then I get everything free for the rest of my life.
Hagn Kimm

Meridian - 26751
Meridian - 26751 2009-01-18 04:51:51 -0600 Report

I have a snack about 5 hours after breakfast. Then I eat lunch about 5 hours after my snack and then supper about 5 hours after lunch. So I do have something at roughly 5 hour intervals. Plus throughout the day I always have something I'm sipping on, (water, coffee, tea etc.).

jaclyncrystal 2009-01-13 02:24:59 -0600 Report

Cara thanks for reading my mind, I have been testing up to 5 times some days, think I am over testing, I am going to check with my dr. on the 14th. jackie

sexyswamprat 2009-01-12 23:32:51 -0600 Report

I test 4 times a day. Once before I eat and then 2 hours after I eat. Sometimes I test more. If I'm feeling hypo, doing a expirement, snacked on something I know I shouldn't have. It's really important to always know where your blood sugar is at. You should test as many times as you feel comfortable with. Your doctor really said once a day? I would definately question that. Seems kinda odd.

dyanne 2009-01-12 23:19:59 -0600 Report

I test about 4 to 5 times a day. Always before I eat and then I may test more if I feel that I am just not feeling right. I have also been told I test to often, but it makes me feel better maybe my fingers dont agree with me LOL !!!!!!

MeiMei 2009-01-12 22:03:16 -0600 Report

I am a type I so I have to test more often than most type II's. I test at least 4 times a day. Before breakfast, 2 hrs after lunch and dinner and before bed. I also will test before and sometimes after exercise and whenever I feel "funny". When I first moved to Missouri I went to a GP who felt I was testing too often, but then he didn't know what a carb unit was either. Needless to say I changed docs immediatel!!

2009-01-12 21:51:22 -0600 Report

I test twice a day at different times of the day. This week i started before dinner and after dinner, last week I did before lunch and after lunch. etc… I am doing a test for my doctor for 3 months as he's a new doctor and wants to see if I have any trouble spots. So far the only trouble I can spot is when I eat something I know I'm not supposed to.. like birthday cake in too large of quantities!!! LOL I know not funny. But that's the reason for testing more often to see how food, exercise and stress and other life happenings affect your numbers. I've been diabetic for a long time (Type 2) so I know what I can and can't eat and how food affects me but for someone new to this, it's the best way to learn.


dj7110 2009-01-12 21:35:09 -0600 Report

I use to have to test twice a day.. but since having to add humalog insulin have to test 4 times a day. I take humalog prior to my 3 meals and lantis at night. The amount of humalog I take is based on carbs I'm going to eat as well as current b/s reading. I'm type 2 insulin dependant.

oetiki 2009-01-12 21:19:59 -0600 Report

I test 5 to 7 times a day and the reason that I do it its because by testing only once a day it doesn't tell me how my sugars are reacting to food, exercise, stress and etc. Its good to test two hours after a meal to see if your sugar is back to your range or its staying high for too long. Talk to your doctor to determine your before and two hours after meals blood sugar range. If you don't mind me asking do you know your last A1C?

caragypsy 2009-01-13 19:55:17 -0600 Report

until I found the site I had never heard about A1C's. I still do not understand it. My BS in the morning is almost always high. Cara

2catty 2009-01-13 20:54:43 -0600 Report

Yeah that's when I get my highest reading also. The A1c test is a lab test that gives the Dr. and yourself a clearer picture of how your blood sugar has been over the last 3 months. It is more accurate in detail.

toadie 2009-01-17 14:48:32 -0600 Report

The reason your BS is high in the am (fasting) is because our liver stores sugar (especially at night), and so you may need to have your liver enzymes checked and if they are high you may need more BS meds. to lower that sugar at night.
Hagn Kimm

stacy curry
stacy curry 2009-01-17 21:21:34 -0600 Report

I check my blood sugar 8 times a day and i take 5 shots a day being a diabetic is like having a 24 hour job.

MMoore42 2009-02-27 00:55:35 -0600 Report

A1C's is a lab test that gives your dr a better idea what your blood sugars have been like over a 3 month period. If you have a high A1C that means that for the past 3 months your blood sugars have been in a high range. It helps your dr also better control your medications.

Kathy Cook
Kathy Cook 2009-01-17 14:52:54 -0600 Report

I think that it's important to test more than once a day. My doctor's prescription for testing supplies says 3x a day, but lately I've been testing more. I agree with Oetiki. It is important to see how your blood sugar reacts after you exercise & eat. I also test before & after I eat something like a chocolate bar. I did that the other day (a King-sized Hershey dark chocolate bar, no less). I found that it didn't affect my level much at all. But that's me. I don't know what that kind of thing would affect others. You have to find out for yourself.
By the way, I don't recommend eating a king-sized chocolate bar.

It is best to talk to your doctor about this. It's also good to consult a dietician. I see one every 6 weeks.

Anonymous 2009-01-18 09:47:37 -0600 Report

About the candy issue. Most people think diabetics eat alot of candy that is what made them diabetic. Not true, it is the carbs because most candy is low in fat, and it does not affect me alot either. My problem is I live in the South and I like "our" food. Grits with cheese and butter, cornbread, gravy and biscuits, fried chicken and fried green tomatoes. I love good old mashed potatoes with gravy. Candy is nothing, I like food. But I have found now that I am more controlled with portions, I can have a little of any food and be OK. It has taken years to reach this point! Finally things seem to be working."Knock on wood".

MMoore42 2009-02-27 01:02:08 -0600 Report

That's good that you have learned to control you blood sugar!! I would like to know your regimen?? If you don't mind, do you exercise, do you eat small portions several times a day or do you eat 3 good meals a day and then eat 3 snacks? My dr told me to do the latter of those and it's just not working for me. I've tried several different things but I still can't find a way to keep my sugars under control. My sugars have been ranging way to high in the lower 300's and I'm scared that it's going to affect my kidney's before to much longer. I usually have to urinate frequently especially at night when I'm trying to sleep!! So if anyone out there has some suggestions for me I would greatly appreciate your input to my problem!!!

Pauline B
Pauline B 2009-02-27 12:37:37 -0600 Report

I am active, 66 years old, and have been Type 2 for over 10 years. I take 1000 mg metfromin twice a day. I am lucky with my diet in that I eat between 1500 and 2000 Kcalories a day, and maintain an A1c of 5.5. Just had labs Wed so hope this hasn't changed. What your doc suggested seems like too much food. My doc suggested to keep carb count between 150 - 200 grams a day, and when I kept track, I realized that I usually ate about 150 grams. I focus on eating less processed foods buit am not fanatic, and eat many meals away from home… I love cheeseburgers & fries and Mexican. Cannot eat Italian or much Asian because of the PAsta and Rice (I don't eat the Spanish Rice that comes with Mexican combo meals). Eating lots of vegetables fills one up but adds few Kcalories. I'm a nutritionist by profession and worked in small hospitals where I had to often write diets for diabetics, renal patients, and other patients when the dietitian was not present (the dietitian then had to approve the diet— which she always did). Knowing what to eat, and WHY has helped me a lot maintain my own good health when diagnosed with diabetes. Loving to eat good foods… and in huge portions… was my downfall. I learned…

I, too, am worried about kidney failure, because the ceatinine is higher as I age, but doctors all say keep the blood pressure and blood glucose under control… changes in diet will not make a difference. I eat more red meats as I have 3 kinds of anemia that are not as easily controlled as the diabetes.

Best thing to do is to put on hat and gloves and get outside and go for a walk… if one is able to. In Seattle the sun is shining and I want to spade a plot of ground for a new rose garden.

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