So much talk about diabetic diets, which is correct?!?!

valentine lady
By valentine lady Latest Reply 2014-04-28 14:47:00 -0500
Started 2014-04-10 11:13:11 -0500

With so much talk about eating plans and diets flowing all over DC, I thought it might be a good idea to condense them all to one discussion. Which works best for you? For me the Adkins Diet is working the best. It's low carb and high protein. I feel great, how about you? We know how important it is to follow a good eating plan after becoming a diabetic and sticking ton it. Are you having problems? Can we help? Let me hear from you…


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haoleboy
haoleboy 2014-04-18 18:47:32 -0500 Report

to add to the mix … "For people recently diagnosed with type 2 diabetes, eating lots of olive oil, fish and whole grains slows progression of the disease more than restricting fat, according to a new analysis."
http://goo.gl/LyNYue

namaste
-Steve

SkyCam
SkyCam 2014-04-23 12:39:19 -0500 Report

As newly diagnosed as PRE-diabetic, I'm glad I've been a vegetarian since the 70s. Of course, its also obvious I love carbohydrates and this is going to be a real challenge. Just glad I dont have to give up red meat along with everything else. Now to determine how to handle my diet… not easy. Am hoping few carbs and high protein will do the trick. I'm thinking it may be a trial method?

jayabee52
jayabee52 2014-04-23 14:24:06 -0500 Report

yep Sky, that should do the trick.

I am a omnivore and have been following a high protein low carb meal plan for over 3 yrs.

After reading the link steve provided there is no prohibition on red meat, and checking it with what the Mayo clinic said about it red meat is limited to 2 times per month and fish and seafood twice a week. I considered following a vegetarian meal plan but the necessity of having a complete form of protein deflected my attenpt. .

haoleboy
haoleboy 2014-04-23 17:02:16 -0500 Report

yup … a low carb, vegetarian, complete protein was an issue I struggled with. went back to eating eggs, cheeses, fish and chicken (beef on rare occasions)

SkyCam
SkyCam 2014-04-28 14:15:17 -0500 Report

Thanks so much for the feedback. I'm a lacto-ovo Vegetarian and now SO glad I am! I have a lot of homework to do here to determine a complete protein from ??? a non-complete? I'm assuming some sort of protein complexity problem on a Veggie diet? It has served me well for 40 yrs but maybe there is more to it? ????? OR, was it hard to get those legumes, etc in there?

haoleboy
haoleboy 2014-04-28 14:47:00 -0500 Report

trying to get complete protein (the 9 essential amino acids) in sufficient quantities and maintain a very low carb intake just didn't really work for me. (A person can eat only so much edamame).

Glucerna
Glucerna 2014-04-19 19:14:50 -0500 Report

Thanks for posting this link Steve. I think one of the researcher's statements is important: Although we don't know exactly what it is about Mediterranean diets that helps control blood sugar, it likely has to do with high levels of fiber, less red meat, and more olive oil and fish, a good source of protein with unsaturated fat," Replacing red meat with seafood and using olive oil as our primary source of fat are healthy changes. ~Lynn @Glucerna

SkyCam
SkyCam 2014-04-23 12:43:21 -0500 Report

I noticed on the ADA site that it said that a Vegan diet did not come with carbohydrate or calorie restrictions…although my guess is this doesnt mean living on vegan cake! Have you heard anything about the Vegan diet and diabetes?

MoeGig
MoeGig 2014-04-15 10:06:21 -0500 Report

People don't realize that the Atkins diet is really a veggie intensive diet. There are many vegetables we use to call 6% carb which are fine. You just have to avoid the starchy ones—potatoes, corn. As far as fruit goes, the rule I follow is eat the fruit, but don't drink the juice. Sure it's 10-15 grams, but not horrible if you're in maintenance mode. I go on strict Atkins when I want to lose weight. Gained 20 last summer and only have 3 left to go. Also, as a Type 1, aiming for an A1c in the 6's is fine, which translates into a BG range of 80-180. When I aim lower, I get too many low's—which can be very dangerous. No complications after 49 years of doing this. Looks like you're doing great. Congrats!

cdbamerson
cdbamerson 2014-04-14 11:26:25 -0500 Report

I started low carb/high protein last week. I ate my normal carb intake over the weekend and it was a horrible experience! I felt bad and my sugars were all over the place! I was ready to get back to my new normal low carb lifestyle.

Glucerna
Glucerna 2014-04-14 15:13:52 -0500 Report

Sometimes I think we need to go back to an old habit, and experience that it truly doesn't work for us, before we can settle into a new and healthier habit. I like the way you call it your 'new normal'. ~Lynn @Glucerna

Shawn Grant
Shawn Grant 2014-04-12 06:18:46 -0500 Report

I am on the diet called the glucose meter diet. If it makes my blood sugar go above 110 I don't eat it again. If my sugar stays below 110 I eat it again. According to my meter I eat very carb. I eat no fruit, grains, milk, or starchy veggies. I eat meat, non-starchy veggies, and cheese. Plus I exercise a lot. I feel the best I have felt in years. Plenty of energy and no fatigue. I also got rid of my IBS that I had for 20 years.

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-04-12 09:22:57 -0500 Report

Hi Shawn:
Your eating plan sounds interesting, however a bit restrictive for me. I love fruit to much to give it up. Did you create this diet on your own or did you get it from some place? On my eating plan I also don't eat starchy veggies or milk. I exercise 3 times a week. Mine is for weight loss, I take it yours is for maintenance. I'm very happy you found one that works for you.

Shawn Grant
Shawn Grant 2014-04-12 09:55:28 -0500 Report

I used DR Bernsien's book diabetes solution as a guide. Not all diabetics are the same and some can have certain things in moderation others cannot. Your glucose meter tells you what causes your sugar to rise and what doesn't. That is why it is important to test and make adjustments to your food.

There is solid research that show the more normal your blood sugar (70 to 110) is the less likely you will develop complications. Normal blood sugar is foremost (provided diabetes is your only health issue). The most effective way to prevent high blood sugar is to reduce carbs. Carb intake per meal should be low enough so your sugar does not go above 110 at its peak, no exceptions. There is a lot of stuff that is healthy that I eat and I get all nutrients. There is also a lot of stuff I like to eat that I have to do without. Tough! It is far better then being a blind cripple with heart disease.

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-04-13 10:09:00 -0500 Report

Hi Shawn; Vey well said and researched, I might add. You've taught me something today and I appreciate it very much. I keep my BG between 90 and 110. When it goes below 90 I don't feel so well. Lower than 70 and I'm down right sick. Thank you for contributing to this discussion. VL

Shawn Grant
Shawn Grant 2014-04-13 10:27:22 -0500 Report

Glad you keep your sugar between 90 to 110. That is excellent and with blood sugar like that your diet is great. Glad you can enjoy fruit and keep your sugar in control. All of us are different and that is why the glucose meter is important.

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-04-13 10:38:33 -0500 Report

Thank you for that compliment. I completely agree your meter should become your best friend (so to speak) I know it keeps me in line.

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2014-04-11 21:41:33 -0500 Report

Our diet, by definition, is simply what we eat. There are many kinds of diets: healthy diets, weight loss diets, low carbohydrate diets, fast food diets, etc.

There may be better ways to get across the idea that you are eating a healthy, well balanced, nutritionally adequate diet, but that preference doesn't make your use of "diet" incorrect, so no apologies needed!

Personally I think more in terms of lifestyle rather than diet or food plan because to be holistic I really think I need to include exercise, stress management, and all the other components that work along with a healthy selection of food to improve my health.

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-04-12 09:28:29 -0500 Report

Hi Caroltoo; I agree one needs to exercise, practice stress management and all the other components that work along with a healthy eating plan. Great point to bring out.

oldskinandbones
oldskinandbones 2014-04-11 13:16:32 -0500 Report

I count carbs, but don't try to go as low as Atkins. I don't know how anyone could control their diabetes without watching their carb intake and testing 2 hours after eating. You can be surprised, even after having been a diabetic for a long time.

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-04-12 09:59:47 -0500 Report

Hi oldskinandbones; I agree Atkins does stress very low carbs. I keep mine from 40 to 60 carbs daily. I am loosing only about 2 to 3 # a week rather than 6 or 7 that Atkins says you will loose. That's just to strict for me and not healthy as I see it. I enjoy a good piece of fruit or even 1/2 piece of toast for breakfast. This way I get the benefits of a pretty good eating plan and stay healthy to boot. I test 2 hours after eating and of course as I said I watch my carbs. Good point skinandbones…

jayabee52
jayabee52 2014-04-11 17:22:11 -0500 Report

unfortunately skinand bones some do try to do it. I have trouble understanding that mindset but people try other ways.

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-04-11 11:46:34 -0500 Report

TO ALL THAT HAVE REPLIED TO THIS DISCUSSION: I stand corrected…instead of using the word diet plan I should have used something like "eating plan"…because I'm on a weight loss diet I used diet, not thinking. I do apologize. Eating healthy is the goal for each and everyone of us as Diabetics. So tell us about your eating plan, we're all interested. Hugs to all…VL

tojoluvr
tojoluvr 2014-04-13 17:56:56 -0500 Report

@valentine lady..a diet is not an eating plan to me. it is what it is..a diet. don't be concerned with the "title" you use.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2014-04-11 12:01:04 -0500 Report

Howdy Sweetness.
I am as you know a proponent of not using the word "diet" except in limited situations, that word is commonly used and understood in discussions like this to mean the same thing. I see no need for apologies sweetness as the word diet is commonly used in this fashion and understood even by word snobs such as me.

I don't see a problem with what you wrote initially, even though I prefer an alternate term.
Hugs back to you!

James

oldskinandbones
oldskinandbones 2014-04-11 13:19:14 -0500 Report

True. I have had diabetics think I was talking about weight reduction when I used the word diet. I thought all diabetics realized their diet was really managing their diabetes with the food they ate, but not so.

Nick1962
Nick1962 2014-04-11 08:31:41 -0500 Report

Good question! At one time there was a “model” diabetic diet, but it has slowly gone away with our changes as a society. Back as recently as the early 80’s, our available palette of foods was (in comparison to today) pretty limited, so it was easy to contain a diet within certain parameters. Convenience foods, availability, fads and so called “nutritious” options all served to muddy up what we all thought we knew about a healthy diet.
It seems to me that we are currently in a discovery phase with no real absolutes anymore, and that “model” diet of years ago can no longer apply because there is no “model” diabetic any longer.
It seems pretty clear that a low carb lifestyle is the clear winner as a “diet”, but my personal opinion is that we adopted such a high carb lifestyle of late, it’s really just a return to what should be “normal”. Whether the ADA officially “adopts” this as a diet regimen would be the real test I think.

Glucerna
Glucerna 2014-04-11 13:58:40 -0500 Report

The latest nutrition recommendations from the Diabetes Association state that there isn't one set eating pattern that works well for every PWD. There's some general info here: http://www.diabetes.org/newsroom/press-releas... and the entire article at http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/earl.... The guidelines also strongly recommend an overall healthy diet, especially one that reduces risk of heart disease as well as manages blood glucose levels. ~Lynn @Glucerna

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-04-12 10:20:36 -0500 Report

Hi Glucerna; Great point…to cover the risk of heart disease. No one has mentioned that including myself. This is most important. Thanks for bringing it up.

jigsaw
jigsaw 2014-04-12 07:38:46 -0500 Report

I've tried a few different food plans during the twenty years that I have had diabetes. Most seemed to have some benefits and possibly some risks.

As of recent years, I have been following much of the concepts that you have pointed out and shared. They fall in line with the opinions of my doctors, dieticians, and diabetes educators. The stubborness that I exhibited by following other diets and not listening to these professionals, dissipated a number of years ago. I feel better then ever, my diabetes is well controlled, and I have avoided diabetes related complications to this day.

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-04-12 10:10:50 -0500 Report

Hi Jigsaw; I'm sure you have followed many eating plans over the past 20 years. Some good , others not so good. However, whatever you follow has kept you healthy and free from what I call Diabetic Hell. There is so much that can and does go wrong with diabetics you should be very proud you've stayed healthy. I'm proud of you…

Nick1962
Nick1962 2014-04-11 15:03:05 -0500 Report

Thanks for those links Lynn. Maybe “Nutrition Therapy” is the new paradigm replacing what we came to know as a “diet”. That study in your second link was the basis for the class I took – minus diabetes. I hope though with time (ADA only published this 6 months ago) this will become “distilled” enough for the general population to absorb effectively.

Glucerna
Glucerna 2014-04-12 18:48:58 -0500 Report

I'm glad the links I posted are helpful, and I really like the term 'nutrition therapy' instead of diet. Maybe you'll start a new trend! ~Lynn @Glucerna

Nick1962
Nick1962 2014-04-12 18:54:20 -0500 Report

Seems the trend has already been started.
I really do think - as much as I hate catch phrases - nutrition therapy is a more accurate term.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-04-11 11:15:40 -0500 Report

Nick, industry guidelines do not fit everyone's health needs. If we look back over the years, we have seen how eating has evolved. Fast food restaurants are in almost every neighborhood. Their idea of healthy food is deep fried and greasy. This changed to their "healthy" items which is still fast food but with something green or grilled. The food industry promotes foods quick to fix. Ads on tv depict kids coming home from school and putting mac and cheese, pizza rolls or a hot pocket in a microwave. All high in carbs, sodium and calories. Mom is shown serving a mound of mac and cheese with a few green beans and they sit at the table smiling.

I won't even mention all of the fad diets. Each person has to be more vigilant when it comes to diets. I know Valentine means well but we can't help people with diets. Diets are too individualized and often based on ethnic backgrounds. Not everyone eats the same foods or prepare it the same way. Eating habits have to change. This is easy for some but not everyone.

I don't think people should fall for all the diets that come on the market. These days just about every celebrity comes up with a diet. They have personal chefs to cook for them and personal trainers they work with every day. They are now taking the Sensa diet off the market. Fad diets do not work and to fall for them is asking for trouble. They tell you how to lose weight fast but not how to keep it off. Nutra System and Jenny Craig sends you meals that you can just as easily prepare yourself. Who knows when these meals were cooked.

I agree there is no "model diabetic" these days. People have other illnesses along with diabetes and the model from days gone by no longer apply. What is needed are programs that actually teach people how to be self sustaining with diabetes. How to care for themselves and how to communicate with their medical teams. I think this is what should be industry standards.

Nick1962
Nick1962 2014-04-11 12:15:48 -0500 Report

You’ve kind of expounded on my thoughts there pretty well Joyce. I think Valentine just put this out there as an abstract discussion kind of to compare notes.

For a long time I thought nutritionally we’re all going south in a hand basket, and until we can get the population to agree on a general “healthy” diet (and I use “diet” as a noun here), we’ll never be able to craft the sub-diets for folks like us. I’m now thinking that expectation might be backwards, and that we – the ones shunning all the fads, pre-made and convenience foods - are actually showing what a real “healthy” diet is in practice.

Jenny Craig and the like have their niche – I call them swimsuit diets. Get you to dump just enough weight to get into one – which is fine for the temporarily challenged folks. But like robertoj mentioned, for us it is a lifestyle change, because, well diabetes isn’t temporary. I think that notion confuses many.

Agree wholeheartedly education is needed, but I guess exactly what and from whom is the big question. Frankly I got better advice on how to manage my condition from a general healthy living/eating course (which never once used the word diabetes) than I’m hearing most get from so-called educators. I’m optimistic change is coming though – soft drink sales fell this year, I see less pre-made entrees in the stores, pharmacy chains are starting to look at what they sell, and at least here locally we have food and vending standards for schools. I think we suffer from a generational shift a little too. Us mature folks weren’t designed or educated to live in a the instant gratification society our kids now view as normal.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-04-11 12:43:27 -0500 Report

I think the education class is great for newbies it is a place for them to start. Those of us who have been traveling the road, learned methods that work for us.

The problem is society is a one size fits all thing. Everyone should be fit, beautiful and thin enough to hula hoop with a Cheerio. The damage is done because no one seems to realize that society is made up of individuals who may never be thin based on their standards.

We have vending standards for schools here. The problem is we also have corner stores that sell to kids on their way to school so they load up on the junk before school or take it in their lunches. We even have school time store laws which means store owners are not suppose to allow kids into stores during school hours. They do and sell to them. In some areas the police are trying to crack down on this.

I agree the mature folks are not the instant gratification. We are not the 'Me" or "entitlement" era. I see so many young people who think the world revolves around them and they have the nerve to demand everything and don't want to work as hard as we did to get what we have.

I sat in a meeting Tuesday with a group of 30 somethings who were the most misguided group of people I have ever seen. They have great plans and no idea how to implement them. Those of us in the meeting who are experienced community leaders tried guiding them and told them what they had to do to implement their plans only they didn't want to hear it. They wanted our statistics and when asked what they wanted to do with them, not one of them could answer. They didn't know. They just knew that we operate off of them for grants but they can't just have them. I really don't want to be around when they start running this country.

Something has to be done. Who is going to do it and how it will get done is a mystery because the young people today are not equipped to do it until they get out of the instant gratification phase.

haoleboy
haoleboy 2014-04-11 21:05:29 -0500 Report

My son is 29 and his wife 25, I live with them so I am around the younger generation a lot. They and their friends are a whole lot more nutrition conscious than I was at the same age. They are also incredibly hard working, family oriented and spiritually centered. I realize my perspective might be skewed … but from my vantage point things will be just fine when they start running this country. Maybe even better off.
(my parents generation was convinced when us hippies took over it would be the end of the country too)

namaste
-Steve

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-04-13 10:48:24 -0500 Report

Hi Steve: It does the soul good to be around the younger generation. Helps to reminds us that life can and is wonderful. Yours sounds great. I agree our parents thought us Hippies were going to ruin the country. I couldn't understand that theory because I wasn't a hippie. LOL

Nick1962
Nick1962 2014-04-12 18:58:34 -0500 Report

I've got a 29-year-old step daughter and work with a few 30-somethings. Might be just my circle, but most are pretty "health aware". My only worry is when did we stop teaching males how to be men?

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2014-04-11 22:04:22 -0500 Report

Yes, I've had that experience with my son and his wife also. No concerns about the soundness of their judgement.

… now some of their friends a few years ago may have been a different story, but they may have just needed time to mature. Who knows. Each generation seems to have a wide gamut of views and abilities.

haoleboy
haoleboy 2014-04-11 21:57:32 -0500 Report

one of my biggest regrets … but I was only 15 at the time. I was living in the DC area, a friend ( a year older) went with his older brother. to say he was held in god-like status would not be exaggeration
.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-04-11 22:26:30 -0500 Report

For the 5 year anniversary, one of the radio stations announced a Woodstock Radio Concerts. People were calling in asking for tickets and how to get to Woodstock. Somewhere in listening, they missed one word, "Radio" it was hilarious.

My homeroom teacher played Jimmy Hendrix version of the National Anthem and I was the only one in the class who knew who was playing it.

I just heard about the Airosmith concert and Slash is joining them. I love Slash playing his guitar.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2014-04-11 07:18:13 -0500 Report

I am enjoying a paleo style of eating. Keeping out the gluten and keeping the carbs low but with lots of veggies. At first I was kind of nervous, but doing it is really easier cooking and that is a big win for me.

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-04-11 12:01:14 -0500 Report

Gabby: With this type of an eating plan my brother lost 95#. Unfortunately I cannot adopt this type of eating plan as I live in an Assisted Living situation and they prepare our meals. If I were living alone that's what I'd opt for, your eating plan.

carmalgurl
carmalgurl 2014-04-10 22:53:09 -0500 Report

I am having issues finding a diet right for me. I am type 1 but was recently diagnosed in the past 2 months and feeling kind of clueless. I am not sure what to eat and what not to eat

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-04-11 14:25:27 -0500 Report

Hi carmalgurl: I too made suggestions on your discussion site but I wanted to take the time now and have a little chat with you. First of all, you didn't say if you need to loose weight or not. But rather that you are Type 1. You need an eating plan that will suit you from now on. Get yourself a book on Diabetes, to teach you all about what you need to know about diabetes. Next ask your Dr. to help get yourself into a class to help you learn about diabetes and how to eat. These classes should be free as their set up by the Dr. make sure their run by a Registered Dietitian. It's awful to feel clueless, especially when it comes to something as serious as diabetes. For the time being may I suggest you get a carbohydrate counter book. Look at your labels for the carb intake. Keep these low, around 120 carbs per-day will maintain your current weight. Keep your proteins high, eat lots of vegies. But, please don't forget to get into a class. That's most important here. Keep in mind, from now on sugar is a no-no!!! Not your friend…hope you keep on Diabetic Connect as you will learn a great deal here. There are some wonderful people with wonderful ideas and experience. Lots of experience. I also hope I've been of some help to you, if nothing else know I'm in your corner rooting for you. Hugs, VL

carmalgurl
carmalgurl 2014-04-11 20:02:41 -0500 Report

thank you, yes I am looking for a meal plan to help me lose weight. I just recently went to a class and it was as informative about the foot to eat as I wanted it to. It was with my doctors office and it wasn't it free unfortunately but the breakfast was good I guess I can't complain :)

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-04-11 20:29:03 -0500 Report

Hi carmalgurl: May I suggest you look up jayabee52"s discussion about his eating plan. He lost a large amount of weight from it. It follows the guidelines closely to the suggested diabetic eating plan. Or you can try Atkins, you go to www.Atkins.com. It's entirely up to you. Keep me posted though, I'm here for you. Hugs, VL

valentine lady
valentine lady 2014-04-12 03:41:56 -0500 Report

I have that link for you for jayabee52's discussion site…that is as follows:
http//www. diabetic connect.com/diabetics-discussion

Type1Lou
Type1Lou 2014-04-10 17:13:23 -0500 Report

I'm an avid low-carb proponent. It works for me although it's not an easy diet to follow. I limit myself to 120 grams of carb per day. By doing this, I've been able to maintain my weight at 120 lbs and get my A1c back into the 6's.

robertoj
robertoj 2014-04-10 14:33:40 -0500 Report

To me it's not about diets. It's about a lifestyle change.It may include meds, eating healthy and physical activity. I see diets as focusing too much on weight loss and looks. It can be discouraging and lead to eating disorders, health problems and undue stress. Some people don't eat enough carbs to be healthy. It's good to pick your carbs wisely.

Trudie Ann
Trudie Ann 2014-04-10 13:40:07 -0500 Report

I also agree with the other post's everyone is different, for example take allergies. Some people are deadly allergic to peanuts. So continue to read labels and take lots of notes on what seems to work for you and what doesn't. Remember the portion control, and also exercise they are both very important. Your portion size may not be the same as mine and what exercises work for you may also differ. We Are All Different. If you have excess to a dietician show them your notes on foods and exercises, they can make suggestions for you. You are doing the number one thing that will help. You are asking questions and you are trying to find out what works. Listen to what works for others, but never forget that you are an individual and unique. God Bless You, You are in my prayers,

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-04-10 21:03:03 -0500 Report

Trudie, I had food allergies long before I was diagnosed. I can't eat raw tomatoes, any kind of fruit with a pit. No Nuts of any kind. No grapes, bananas cherries, in fact the only way I can eat tomatoes that do not bother me is ketchup.

My meal plan is totally different because a lot of foods are eliminated. My neighbor is my dietitian and she did my meal plan. The person my doctor sent me to was useless. she ignored my allergies and did not read the doctors notes.

I wrote down every question I had for my doctor. I read everything I could read on my own. I found a plan that works for me. I am not a note taker. I graduated from college without writing one note. Don't ask me how lol

jayabee52
jayabee52 2014-04-11 00:36:36 -0500 Report

JJ I expect that you TOLD your Dr about the useless dietician he sent to you and why she was useless. (if you didn't you wouldn't be the JJ I have known) I hope she got fired for putting a patient in jeaprody like that.

jigsaw
jigsaw 2014-04-10 13:35:46 -0500 Report

Any diet that includes low carb, will help to control blood glucose. Unfortunately, some low carb diets may not take other nutritional needs into account. I agree with the basics of every dietician and nutritionist that I have talked with. Variety, in the correct portions, modified to an individuals needs, and listening to your own body, is the key for me. Of course any food plan should include mainly, healthy natural foods. Variety of healthy foods, that includes most healthy food groups helps to insure that nutritional needs are met.

Sly Kitty
Sly Kitty 2014-04-10 12:17:47 -0500 Report

The one that works for you. It certainly is mindboggling for sure. For the past 15 years I have been reading labels and ingredients, but only became diabetic the last 4 years and that is when I really learned how much, when and what to eat. I had been doing it right for most of my life and when I stopped paying attention that is when I became diabetic. This disease really requires your constant focus and if you forget for a minute to pay attention, it will remind you and hopefully not too late. best Wishes.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-04-10 20:53:24 -0500 Report

Diabetes for you might require your constant focus and if you forget to pay attention, it might remind you. I do not under any circumstances allow diabetes to be my constant focus. I will not allow it to control my life. I know what to eat, how much to eat and with exercise, I am doing great. I test every two days or if I feel low. I am almost never high.

I am to the point where I eat whatever I want because I know what will happen. I had a Milky Way today then walked the dog. It did not cause a high because I walked. I don't eat candy everyday. It is a special treat and chocolate calms my nerves when things get hectic.

After the first year of being diabetic and self education and communicating with my doctor, I was doing so great he gave me a "Diabetes Free" day. I can eat whatever I want on that day. I don't go carb crazy. I can't wait for Sunday morning so I can have a Lemon Pastry with my coffee. I vend at a Farmers Market with my sister. I eat my pastry then walk down one side of the street and talk to the vendors and up the other side. I have to walk two blocks to the bathroom and two blocks back. That pastry does nothing to my blood sugar because I am moving around. I love not being tied to diabetes. I have diabetes, it does not have me.

Sly Kitty
Sly Kitty 2014-04-11 06:04:17 -0500 Report

I believe we are not focused on our health and is the main reason we end up with this, like many other conditions. I am not in denial that I became diabetic due to my not focusing on what I consumed and how much of it. Even when we are aware and knowledgeable as to how to do it right does it mean we actually do it the way we should. We tend to be in denial of the seriousness of this condition. Just sayin'…

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-04-11 10:22:16 -0500 Report

Who are the "WE" you are referring to because not everyone fits into your categorization. I want a list of the names of everyone who you are referring to in your "WE" statement. If you can't name names then you CAN NOT say "WE" about anything. When you use the word "WE" as an all inclusive situation means you think just because something happened to you had to happen to everyone else. If you knew anything about diabetes, you would know that it is also hereditary. Even infants can become diabetic just like infants can be born with heart problems. Was that caused because they didn't focus on what they were eating or their health?

Even if you had stayed focused on what you were eating does not mean that you would not have developed diabetes. This means you are blaming yourself. I don't deal with that kind of foolishness because I have it. How I got it is not important. How I take care of it is very important.

You can not sit back and lump people into a situation simply because this is what happened to you so you need to change the "we" to "I" because you do not have the right to speak for anyone when you use the word "WE" in an all inclusive situation.

If athletics can develop diabetes just like they can get cancer or develop heart problems. What does that say about their eating habits when they are more than likely the most healthy people in this country.

You said "We tend to be in denial of the seriousness of this condition." I have never been in denial. There are also people here on this site who were never in denial. This is why when you say "WE" you are putting people in situations they were never a part of.

So can you please back up what you said with research and data to prove your statements? You have a right to your opinion, however, I have learned that when people say "WE" I have found they are actually talking about themselves and to deal with it they believe everyone has had the same problem which isn't true…just saying…

Sly Kitty
Sly Kitty 2014-04-11 17:47:12 -0500 Report

OK, I am referring to my many friends and family specifically. I do have acquaintances and friends, and frankly I don't understand why you have become so defensive of my stating my opinion and experiences and the experiences of others I have discussed this with. I refuse to be bullied on this site and assumed we could practice freedom of speech.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-04-11 21:49:29 -0500 Report

You kept saying we this and we that. I need to know who the "we" were. You should have specified that you were talking about your friends and family. Even they might not agree with you.

Oh please, just because you were asked to clarify what you said does not mean you were being bullied and if you feel that way, that is for you to handle.

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