Spiced Allie
By Spiced Allie Latest Reply 2014-04-27 09:37:13 -0500
Started 2014-03-25 19:08:47 -0500

I have recently lost my health insurance and can't afford it (and in fl I'm not eligible ). Recently I have high blood sugar in the morning. I hear that it's based in what you eat at night but I have also recently changed my diet to remove /lower the high GI carbs. Yet I still can't seem to get it. I know my level should be around 70-90 in the morning with fasting. I have gone to drinking mostly water with little to no soda (which super hard). And I take my Metformin all at night as prescribed. I take cinnamon 4kmg to help but without a doctor or my annuals I can't get a good gage. I'm not looking for a diagnose but some idea would help me feel that I am going in the right way. Also I have found in the last few months I have unknowingly lost approximately lost 60+lbs. Any ideas if that would cause the odd early morning spikes?

Please help


Tags: blood sugar

13 replies

GabbyPA 2014-04-27 09:37:13 -0500 Report

Congratulations on the weight loss. That is how it kind of happened to me as well. I also suffer from morning highs and while I do find them completely annoying what I strive to do is just eat an almost carb free breakfast and that can get me going in the right direction again. Of course, starting lower in the morning makes for better numbers though the day, but I do what I can with what I am dealt.

One other thing that may help is exercise in the evenings after your meal. I have found that doing that helps me achieve better AM readings. If I do at least 30 minutes of intensive activity after my last main meal, it kind of keeps me going through the night and if my liver dumps, the benefits of exercise help combat it.

LauraS 2014-03-28 10:23:24 -0500 Report

I live in NJ and the food store ShopRite give out free generic diabetes meds. I take metformin and glipizide and it's completely free. I don't have insurance either. Try an internet search of your state to see if anyplace offers free or discounted meds. Good luck.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-03-26 09:10:59 -0500 Report

Look at health clinics in your city or county that offer sliding fee scales that are income based. When the grant ran out at my job I was offered COBRA. It is not offered to people who quit their jobs but it is very expensive. Go to Social Services and apply for Medical Assistance and the SNAP program.Medical Assistance is now easier to get because of Obamacare. Lots of people are now applying for it even if they were refused previously. Did you ask your doctor if he could work with your with a payment plan?

The odd early morning spikes are called the Dawn Phenomenon aka a Liver Dump. The liver is like your own personal EMT, when it senses that your blood sugar is too low it "dumps" some glucose into your system to raise the numbers. You can prevent this by eating a protein before bed. The protein can be any food such as leftover meat from dinner,

You have to be more responsible without a doctor which means you have to stop buying soda. It is only hard for you to stop drinking it because you buy it. If you don't buy it, you won't drink it. Soda is fast acting carbs that go right to the blood stream and it has high levels of fructose.

I take metformin at night also. I do not take cinnamon because I don't believe in taking supplements that I know really aren't going to work. Changing your diet will cause you to lose weight but you can also maintain your diabetes with exercise even without a doctor. Good luck

Spiced Allie
Spiced Allie 2014-03-25 20:57:21 -0500 Report

I can't because I recently had to quit my job to avoid unneeded drama. I honestly can't afford anything. It's a long story but know it was super poop what I experienced. I have gone to the gov site but the monthly is too high with low deductibles or vice versa. I'm more than sure my lack of prospects don't help with the stress. I'm gonna do my best to manage until so I might be spamming this forum a lot for suggestions.

@haoleboy- the ACA is great but if you can't afford even the cheap option of $7/mo with its deductible of $6.5k the ACA is kinda pointless. As far as the liver dump. I will look into it more so I can get an idea what may help.

Thanks again :)

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-03-27 11:35:19 -0500 Report

I am President of a Community/Police organization and Vice President of my Community Association. Always drama. I ignore it or put a stop to it. I could probably work in a mine field and wouldn't be bothered. I don't let other people stress me out. I am too old to be dealing with other peoples drama and I certainly would not allow them to cause me to stop doing anything. I have Brain To Mouth Disorder so I shut them down. You can apply for Medical Assistance on the gov site or on the one for your state. some low income health centers have grant funding for people who have no income. If you live in a major city call the local health department some of them have free health clinics. All you have to do is call them and find out. Another source for information is Homeless Shelters. They also have resources and may be able to refer you somewhere for medical care. I tell people in the community all the time that you don't know what is out there if you don't ask.

Right now you may think you have a lack of prospects. Keep your head up and stay positive. Dr. Gary just posted a discussion last week "Finding a job, keeping a job. And living with diabetes. Any ideas or inspiration to share?" There is a lot of insight in that discussion. Rachel Chavez posted "University of South Florida Diabetes Stress Relief Study" Read those.

There have been discussions on the site about Liver Dumps. Everyone has them and protein helps. I eat protein before bed and I don't have liver dumps anymore. good luck

haoleboy 2014-03-25 23:34:44 -0500 Report

sorry it doesn't work for you, it certainly saved my cookies, but then with my limited income I qualified for the no cost option.
ask away … there is an amazing amount of knowledge and experience in this community.


Spiced Allie
Spiced Allie 2014-03-25 20:13:17 -0500 Report

thanks for the reply. I have tried the peanut butter and still had a high BG in the morning. Also I have type 2. I have the high side but thankfully never higher than 180. I did have a few mornings where I would have night sweats which after research I found to probably be the liver dump you mentioned and as soon as it started it went away. Much to my chagrin I guess I will have to wait until I can get insurance and checked. Thanks again :)

jayabee52 2014-03-25 20:34:43 -0500 Report

Unfortunately Allie, not all solutions work for everyone. Perhaps someone else can answer your discussion and it will work better.

Do you mean you can't get insurance under the provisions of The "affordable care act"?

jayabee52 2014-03-25 19:37:53 -0500 Report

Howdy Allie
Sorry you qualify for this shindig, but since you do, I'm glad you're here.

You are correct in what you hear about it having to do with what you eat at night, but maybe not the way you might think. What happens is if you are having a bedtime Blood Glucose (BG) level of 80 to 100 mg/dl you may go low (hypo) during sleep, due to your resting metabolic rate. This happens to People with Diabetes (PWDs) and people who aren't. What happens then is that one's liver dumps glycogen (similar to glucose) into our bloodstream. It just dumps it indiscrimanately (therefore is called a "Liver dump") This is a fail-safe our bodies have so we don't die during sleep. It is not a problem for those who do not have diabetes because the excess glycogen is covered by insulin being excreted int othe bloodstream by the pancreas. For us who are insulin impaired we note a rise, sometimes quite a signifigant rise in our BG levels.

I also had high fasting AM BG levels. I spoke to my Dr about it and he suggested that if my BG was under 130 mg/dl, I eat a complex carbohydrate paired with a protein. I believe I remember him suggesting Graham Crackers paired with peanut butter. I tried it and it worked well for me. 2 or 3 apple slices slathered with peanut butter works well also. I tried it and

Try that my friend and see if it will work for you.

God's best to you and yours