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coragem
By coragem Latest Reply 2014-02-17 21:23:39 -0600
Started 2014-02-05 21:00:47 -0600

Going to see my doctor tomorrow. My test results were Ac1 8.0 and blood sugar 159, I really don't want to start on meds. I am only 50 yrs young. Is it the only way ?
Can't I start a strict diet and exercise first?
Or the cinnamon shot?
Open to advice


14 replies

Grandmama16
Grandmama16 2014-02-17 21:23:39 -0600 Report

I do take Dexilant for acid reflux since I also have Barrett's syndrome. I read the things suggested about statins then went to The Dirty Little Secret about CoQ10, which was, of course, an Ad. The one article said Statins aren't needed for over 70 and that will be me in April. I just don't know what to think.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2014-02-07 10:08:20 -0600 Report

If you just got diagnosed, then I would talk to the doctor about a time frame to try diet and exercise first. Say 3 to 6 months and see how you do. Work on a goal together and that will be the best thing. What you have to do is find things that work for you. It takes time sometimes.

jigsaw
jigsaw 2014-02-07 05:52:43 -0600 Report

If your doctor determines that meds are necessary to gain control of your blood glucose, then that's probably your best choice. High blood sugar chips away at your health, and the longer you allow it to stay high, the more damage it does. That's why diabetes is considered to be such an insidious condition. Even if it turns out that you need medication, it may be possible to eventually eliminate meds with good diet and exercise. Either way, when necessary, medication is definitely a healthier choice then high blood glucose.

Keep in mind, that with proper professional guidance, medication extends health and even life. High blood glucose does the opposite, in a very sneaky way in some cases. I won't pretend to paint a rosey picture. With good diabetes mgmt however, you can live a long and healthy life. You've taken the first major step, by seeing your doctor. Continue to learn as much as you can about healthy food plans, good exercise etc., and get your a1c down to a healthy range, even if it takes meds to do it.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2014-02-06 17:58:11 -0600 Report

Howdy Coragem

Of course consult with your Dr first, but I believe you can manage your diabetes without diabetes meds. In fact I have been doing just that for the past 3 yrs. I had been on metformin at first, and then when my kidneys quit working (needed dialysis) I was put on low doses of NPH (medium acting) insulin. I dropped my last vial of insulin and it shattered and while waiting for a replacement I tried to manage my T2 without meds. I learned that I could mange without meds successfully. I wrote a discussion about it here ~ http://www.diabeticconnect.com/diabetes-discu... Read it and let me know what you think on that discussion.

God's best for you and yours
James Baker

Type1Lou
Type1Lou 2014-02-06 15:56:04 -0600 Report

You may be able to avoid meds by really cutting back on your carbs and following a regular exercise program, but, discuss this with your doctor first!

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-02-06 11:50:30 -0600 Report

As everyone has said, talk to your doctor. He/she knows your medical history and how well you are in control of your diabetes. I don't take medical advice from anyone on this site because they are not doctors. I might try something to see if it workds but I still stick to my plan. A lot depends on how well you manage your blood sugar through diet and exercise. If you choose to try to get it down without meds, it is going to requrie hard work and dedication. If you fail to do that you may have no choice but to go on medication until you can get better control. As for the Cinnamon Shot I have not heard that it works and don't know of any doctor who will do that. You might want to talk to a nutrtionists to help you with meals and meal planning. You should also ask your doctor how many carbs per meal/per day you can have. This will help you a lot when it comes to counting carbs. Diabetes is in no way a one size fits all disease so you have to find what works for you and communicate what you are doing and trying with your doctor and health team.

Nick1962
Nick1962 2014-02-06 08:03:24 -0600 Report

As others said, talk to your doctor (or several if you can). Some will automatically put you on meds, and depending on your participation in your condition, it may be permanent. An 8.0 A1c isn't horrible, so ask your doctor if he/she'll will give you a honeymoon period to try to work it down with diet and exercise first, You will have to put in some work, but it can be done.

Grandmama16
Grandmama16 2014-02-06 02:22:07 -0600 Report

Hi there, 50 yrs young…I'm pushing 70 and over the years have worked up to 12 meds. I was diagnosed with diabetes 2 years ago and take 1500 mgs of Metformin but also cromium and cinnamon caps which I've discovered bother my GERD, plus fish oil, vit B6 & 12. And a multi. I recently asked my pharmacist about meds affecting BG levels and the blood pressure ones I've taken for years do. Why don't Drs know this? Anyway…if you are given Metformin take it slow. Dr gave me 4 to start and it played havoc with intestines so I stopped. Later I started taking 1 a day and worked up to 3 now and I'm fine. Still, my BG is all over the place, yet a1c is down to 6.6. Now Ins says I have to control cholesterol so have started slow on Lipitor which I'm not too happy about. I'm frustrated that the 2 diets conflict, and I can't take many Vegs or fruits. I feel totally stuck. Can't have much bread, or potatoes, and no rice or pasta. Can have meats, cheese, even butter for diabetes but that's bad for cholesterol. Had very little yesterday of anything. I'd say start counting carbs…40 or so per meal, and try cinnamon & cromium pic. It might keep you away from meds. Welcome to the site.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2014-02-15 21:08:47 -0600 Report

Howdy Grandma

you said: " I recently asked my pharmacist about meds affecting BG levels and the blood pressure ones I've taken for years do. Why don't Drs know this?" The Drs rely on the Pharmicists to do the informing.

I note you take a statin (lipitor) if you ABSOLUTELY need it please think about adding Coenzyme Q10 (CoQ10) to your suppliment regimen. For more see the article here ~ http://www.sott.net/article/262308-Statins-de...

There are also those Drs who think that statin use might even be unnecessary for those over 70 ~ http://www.newsmaxhealth.com/Health-News/stat... So if you can get off of a statin it might be better for you. I had been put on one by my Dr a while ago but I didn't have any high bad chol numbers. When asked Dr said "It is prophylacic for diabetics" (for my protection). I have been off the statin ever since I learned that it depleted my Co Q 10 and I have not experienced a rise in my chol. numbers since.

I have both T2 and have Chronic Kidney Disease for which I need dialysis to keep me breathing. So I know the frustrations of meal plans (aka "diets") for two different diagnoses.

Praying God's best for you and yours

James Baker

Grandmama16
Grandmama16 2014-02-15 23:44:28 -0600 Report

My Ins insists on my taking the statin and like you said, it's done for my protection but Dr said I can cut the 10mg pill in half. I don't know what my number is but years ago it was 260's… Not good. I went on a statin and got it down to 166, then went off. I might try CoQ10. Just as with the Cinnamon I take, and Joyce said, we don't know if we're getting the real thing unless it's regular vitamins. I take a pres of Vit. D once a week. Not sure about taking herbs for the same reason of not knowing it's purity and if it conflicts with other things. They can be powerful in the wrong way
That's it for tonight. Take care.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-02-06 12:04:05 -0600 Report

Grandma diets can conflict if you are treating more than one problem. I don't use supplements because after reading that most of them do not contain what they should, I decided I am not taking anything that I cannot say what it really is. My former boss is an RN and a certified holistic nurse who told me to stay away from all of the supplements that others tell you to take and use natural herbs. She said supplements can have an adverse effect on medications you take. After talking to my doctor he basically said the same thing. They both said that supplements can be overused and the body may not need them.

The best way to determine carbs per day is by asking your doctor. Each persons carb intake can be different.

I had to lower my cholesterol and control my diabetes at the same time. I started on a medication to control cholesterol and like you said it was conflicting at first. I was wondering what to do. I have a friend who is a certified nutritionist who put together a diet that worked for me. I was able to get off the cholesterol medication after about a year.
I eat bread but rice and pasta are eaten based on what my glucose levels are.

I am now using the Weight Watchers Points Plus program. After talking with my friend my diet has been adjusted to accomodate this. I have noticed my numbers are much better after two weeks and I am losing weight. However, each person has to do what works for you. If what you are doing is working for you, this is great. Good luck with the high blood pressure and cholesterol.

Grandmama16
Grandmama16 2014-02-15 23:58:01 -0600 Report

Hi there, I hope my dietician can help me with the diabetes and cholesterol conflict…and acid reflux…and not being able to eat a lot of veggies. So much for Weight Watchers. We went out to eat tonight and I ordered a chicken fried steak skillet with gravy and I only ate half…mostly the eggs on top, some of the meat and a few chunks of potatoes. Hubby ate the rest. He only has Parkinson's to deal with. He's doing well with his meds. My BG was 157 later. I have gone from 7.4 to 6.6 on my A1c tho, despite my addiction to buttered popcorn. Bye for now.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-02-16 16:58:32 -0600 Report

I have acid reflux and my doctor gave me medication for it. You really need to talk to your doctor. I eat chicken fried steak once a near but I ask for the gravy on the side.

Harlen
Harlen 2014-02-05 22:54:38 -0600 Report

Hello and welcome
See what you doc has to say but with an A1c of 8.0 you may need more then just diet
You may not need then if you can cut the carbs way back
Each of us are different
Best wishes
H

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