Control - I have totally lost it.

By NSnell Latest Reply 2014-03-06 14:00:33 -0600
Started 2014-01-26 11:17:19 -0600

I am having a gigantic issue that I can't seem to get control of no matter what I do. I have plates that are portioned into 3rds, I have all the right foods in the house. I try to eat small portions at least 5 times a day which include the 2 snacks. So far I am finding that I feel like I'm starving and then I start shoveling in the extra foods. I am getting pretty good at fixing food so that I don't have left overs, and that is only because I eat what would have been left over. Arggggg, help me keep that extra food out of my mouth and off of my … .

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shorty1965 2014-03-06 14:00:33 -0600 Report

Keep drinking water and may be get you some crystal light with your food.fix smaller sizes when you cook and add fruit to your dinner that will help also , more fruit and less potato and gravy or pasta.start slow write it down in a book and keep me informed.

shorty1965 2014-03-04 18:41:30 -0600 Report

? What kind of food do you eat everyday give me an idea.
Do you drink a lot of water that helps full you up you drink water a lot?

NSnell 2014-03-05 09:04:24 -0600 Report

Yes I do, but I think not nearly enough. I feel full and sometimes I feel like I am forcing myself to eat. I eat pretty much what ever I want, I (try) to avoid 2 of my absolutely guilty pleasures, and they are potatoes with gravy and any kind of pasta. I am now trying it in eliminate wheat products. I try to keep my carbs below 100 per day and my calories below 1400 per day.

MoeGig 2014-02-12 07:23:00 -0600 Report

Still sticking with my no carb diet, I've lost another 3 pounds as of this morning if anyone's interested. Two weeks ago, I was down 6, today 3 more. From 218 to 209. Nine more to go, and it really is pretty easy. I also go to the gym most mornings on the treadmill and burn 150 calories, but I don't think that makes much difference. Had a triple bypass 14 years ago and just interested in keeping that new plumbing clear. Hope all is well.

NSnell 2014-02-12 09:29:54 -0600 Report

Awesome. I am so happy for you! My husband is a member of the " Zipper" club too. I watch his weight far more than I do mine and I need to pay attention to me too. Fair winds and following seas.

Nick1962 2014-02-12 08:48:20 -0600 Report

Treeadmill does make a difference Moe. I went from 268 to 170 just watching carbs and treadmill walking. Keep up the good work!

MoeGig 2014-02-12 09:56:00 -0600 Report

Quite an accomplishment…my goal of 18 must sound like a drop in the bucket to you…:>)

Nick1962 2014-02-12 10:06:05 -0600 Report

Nope, not a drop in the bucket at all. A fine start I'd say! I only thought I'd drop 50 at best, but I just kept going.

bayridgevet 2014-02-02 17:43:36 -0600 Report

Hello I understand the problem, no easy answers. However drinking more water will definitely help. At least 3 liters a day to stay full. Plus kick up your except use program, exercise elevates mood. Good luck

Set apart
Set apart 2014-01-31 06:42:42 -0600 Report

Love all the info you've been given, I am now using an app to track all my foods, BG levels, etc. I think it's called Mynetdiary it will search for foods, gives you a nice choice of portions, and you can also create custom foods which I have. It's so hard with the temptations of foods we love, like James I never keep poison foods around, out of sight out of mind. I make sure I wear my tighter clothing to remind me what I am working towards, I keep plenty precut veggies in the frig, with hummus, which I love! I am now into plain yogurt, I buy the large container of oikos, add some drops of stevia extract, (love vanilla creme), one cup is filling for me, with 24 grams of protein and 8 grams of carbs. Like Joyce it's up to you, but since food is also linked to makes me feel good, we have to be creative in finding ways so that we are not feeling like were starving, yet not consuming too many calories. Good luck!

Glucerna 2014-01-31 15:53:12 -0600 Report

I like the way you're doing a variety of things to change your food habits. You set up your environment so that you have healthy foods easily available, and you're finding healthier foods that you enjoy eating. When we remember that we ate a certain way for years, it makes sense that it's going to be hard work and take some time to change those habits. ~Lynn @Glucerna

elwojcik65 2014-01-29 20:25:18 -0600 Report

NSnell…I just saw your post. I could have written the same thing. After reading all the encouraging words you received, I hope you don't mind, but I am going to use them to help get myself back on track. I ate so much junk today, I feel miserable. Mentally and physically. Let's hope it's a lesson learned. Let's hang in there together and get those new habits started again.

shorty1965 2014-03-04 04:01:24 -0600 Report

Hello I just wanted to say that I have been to that point were I had lost it and ate different things and had to restart my plains all over and I found that when I get a little book and write down what I'm eating it helped me a lot try that and see if it helps.when you get on the wrong path and you start to see what you have been doing you tend to get back on track it my help everyone who have them times when they go off track ' we are not the only ones but that was a big help to me and when you get back on track it makes you feel better when you see the changes you have made and also write down in your book how you are feeling at that point when you see the difference.
Look everybody this thing is a hard thing to do but we have to keep our heads up and take it one day at a time and understand you are not alone we are family and we are here for each other. If you ever feel alone get on here and talk to you're family someone will be there for you don't ever forget that please.

NSnell 2014-03-04 16:29:26 -0600 Report

Thank you shorty1965. I have finally bitten the bullet and now am writing every thing down, and I must say it is almost as difficult as trying to keep on track, but it does slap me in the face as to what kind of garbage I have been putting in my mouth without giving it a thought. It is a positive step forward. Thank you again.

NSnell 2014-01-29 21:48:10 -0600 Report

Dear elwojcik65, hugs to you, please feel free to take what you need. Please call me Norleen and perhaps we can help each other when we need a nudge in the right direction. Please writer to me when ever.

MoeGig 2014-01-29 09:46:39 -0600 Report

After gaining 18 lbs over the summer (while in France), I'm 1/3 of the way to shedding this weight after 3 weeks. Being T1 and on Lantus and Humalog, the only way I can lose weight is to eliminate mostly all carbs. That means only protein, fat, and most veggies—no potatoes, bread, etc. I don't try to reduce my food intake, but all of sudden, I'm not hungry as much and the weight starts to drop. Another side effect is thirst so I drink a lot of water..(I like flavored sparkling)…since your body is now burning fat for energy, you are spilling a lot of keytones…not a problem as long as you maintain you blood sugars. Another thing you have to do is lower your insulin intake…I'm normally on 25 units of Lantus daily and 5 units of Humalog after most meals. With a low/no carb diet, I can eliminate the Humlog and live off the Lantus. Conversely, I know I'm gaining weight when I have to take a lot of Humalog to maintain reasonable blood sugars.

I know it sounds drastic, but I find it a relatively easy diet to follow compared to every other diet I've tried over the years. Good luck.

NSnell 2014-01-29 10:08:11 -0600 Report

I am a true carnivore, so not a problem, I love water with lemon or lime juice mixed with it. Thanks for your insights, they are very much appreciated. Stay healthy!

buffy360 2014-01-28 23:58:16 -0600 Report

Hear you!! You are not alone. This year my a1c went from 6.1-6.5 but am hypothyroid so undiagnosed trying to bring TSH and other numbers down. Isn't it frustrating to feel out of control. Keep it up, new habits can fall out too quickly. Are you journaling your foods. Each time I stop it I lose control. I didn't read all you xx replies but I so understand. Try doing something different in your pattern when you feel overwhelmed, like call a friend, go for a walk, it might distract you long enough to lower the anxiety. They keep telling me how much walking will help…

NSnell 2014-01-29 00:51:31 -0600 Report

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you! I truly need to get in the habit of journaling.

buffy360 2014-01-29 20:25:32 -0600 Report

Have smartphone? MyFitness, LoseIt and there's one specifically for Diabetis that I can't recall fully, Go…meals? Also if you like to write, I recommend HealthMinder who makes several versions; loss, maintenance, JR (which I am considering because its more visually oriented), and one for general conditions and changes. My GI thought it was great. It was a commitment to myself and I could prove what worked or didn't, for me. Included logging vitals (weight, BG, BP, sleep), medications and supplements taken, let me know what you think of it. It's not on FB, find it online easily. "Don't sweat the small stuff".

theladyiscrazy 2014-01-28 19:59:07 -0600 Report

Are you hungry after every meal or just certain times of the day? I know for me, evenings are when I am the hungriest. It is taking time for me to "retrain" my brain (and stomach) but it is one small victory (and some failures) at a time. Also, when you start "snacking", is there a trigger? If I am bored, I EAT! If I am upset, the same thing. Sometimes recognizing it is the beginning. Another thing I have found, is figuring in (if you are tracking carbs) allowances for "sweets/treats" or whatever you want to call them (sometimes alternatives or healthier versions) HELPS tremendously for me. To know that I can still have chocolate when those cravings hit, but just in a wiser setting, helps me not feel deprived. One last thing, I am not looking at my eating program as a 'diet' as much as I look at it as a Health style change or a life style change. Just wording that differently, does help (at least for me).

NSnell 2014-01-28 21:08:41 -0600 Report

My "blind grazing" is usually after dinner. I have 2 things that usually will curb the grazing and that is something salty and with a tang, I try to keep a jar of muffalatta in the fridge or a jar of green olives or a dill pickle or 4 small pieces of chocolate, I like the chocolate about an hour before bed time. Boredom is absolutely a cue.

theladyiscrazy 2014-01-29 06:50:17 -0600 Report

Knowing is half the battle. You might not start off being able to fully stop it, but you may make a great choice the next time. Then it will be twice a week, then threes, etc until he had good choices every time. Yes, night is hard for me, as I mentioned as well. Last night was the first night I did not have a snack. However, I did have dinner at a later time. I will try it again a couple of times to help decide what is the better time to eat. Speaking of that, try to eat around the same time each day. The same for meds, try to take them around the same time each day.

Silicone eyes
Silicone eyes 2014-01-28 10:04:24 -0600 Report

We have all been there, Cheetoh's are my evil temptress. For me, I've tried to not look at extremes, make small improvements and build on them. There honestly was a time for me when I drank a 6 pack of Miller Lite a night. Not the best thing, right? No, but it was better than a 6 of Molson every night and a stepping stone to having a treat here and there. Foods for anybody can be a habit and habits are easier replaced than dropped. Now I drink iced tea and have an occasional adult beverage.

EJMac 2014-01-27 00:23:59 -0600 Report

Hi You must know that you aren't alone with this struggle. I have committed to lowering my A1C from 7.9 to 6.5 or under and lose 25 lbs. I hate feeling hungry. Mostly it happens in the evening after dinner. I started taking a PGX fiber pill right before dinner with lots of water and it seems to be helping. My blood sugars are great, but I've only lost 2 lbs in the past 3 weeks. Good thing my first concern was the blood sugars. You hang in there. I think the 2nd & 3rd weeks are the toughest. Like James said it takes time to set up new habits. It we keep on doing our best, we WILL reach our goals eventually.

NSnell 2014-01-27 08:10:48 -0600 Report

Thank you, the encouragement I have received is overwhelming. I have never had the courage to ask for help before, fearing rejection, but this experience has proven me wrong. I am looking forward to getting back on track. I will check out the PGX. Thanks again.

Dr Gary
Dr GaryCA 2014-01-26 20:49:02 -0600 Report

HI NSnell,

Glad you checked in. And I see that you have lots of support from other members who understand what you are going through.

It sounds like you might be experiencing some emotional triggers for eating. If so, it could help to understand what motivates the over-eating -- in addition to plain old hunger -- and start to find some ways to cope with these triggers. Here are links to a couple of articles that might help:

It might also help to get some support in setting limits with yourself. Is there anybody in your house who could help you maintain your diet?

Stay in touch with us, my friend. You are not alone.


NSnell 2014-01-26 21:02:37 -0600 Report

Thank you Dr. Gary; I do eat when I'm stressed and I know it. If I look at it closely, it would seem I am always stressed and it is a vicious circle. Being full does not stave off the craving for "something" and I don't know what that something is, so I keep grazing.

Dr Gary
Dr GaryCA 2014-01-27 18:44:15 -0600 Report

Hi NSnell, so it sounds like what you might want to focus is on is how to deal with all of that stress. Learning how to relax and not let it all get to you would help. Do you have a way ot talking with a counselor? Getting some counseling, to have a fresh perspective on how you are handling stress, and learning some new coping skills, could help a lot. Just an idea. Really sorry to hear you are so stressed.

NSnell 2014-01-26 20:47:43 -0600 Report

Dear jazzyiphone, dagger1234, gabby and every one else who took the time and made the effort to help me. You are all so awesome and I can't tell you how wonderful you are. Because of your efforts, I feel strengthened in my resolve to make some people proud and I have decided that the first person on my list will be ME for a change. I have to be selfish don't I. Thank you all again.

dagger1234 2014-01-26 20:24:10 -0600 Report

I have had trouble with that too. What my problem is, is I hate eating the same thing over and over. I will eat left overs but will eat it once In the morning, a snack or a diff meal during lunch then eat my left over at dinner. Give your palette something different so you don't feel like you're eating to eat- eat to be energized.

GabbyPA 2014-01-26 20:13:14 -0600 Report

Sometimes I keep things that are not my favorites in the house. When I don't really like it, I don't crave it, I don't eat it. If I have safe foods in the house, then I can do much better.

The other thing that helps me a LOT is keeping very busy. Then I eat a lot less because I'm not bored.

jayabee52 2014-01-26 17:13:26 -0600 Report

Howdy NSnell
I believe you can establish better control!

A few questions to start: How many carbs are you eating? Are you eating breads? I have read (and believe) that eating simple (starchy) carbohydrates can be addictive. I got a lot better once I gave up all breads, potatoes, pastas and anything made from any kind of grain. It wasn't easy at first, but I got better the longer I followed my meal plan. I have written up my meal plan and will share it with you should you request it. I lost 65 lbs in 5 mo, managed my T2 without diabetes medication (generally no more than 130 mg/dl fasting BG) and achieved an A1c of 5.5. I have followed a modified version of it since 2/2011

NSnell 2014-01-26 18:04:26 -0600 Report

Dear jayabee52, wow, CONGRATULATIONS! I try to avoid carbs, I don't eat bread very often and I try to avoid pasta and potatoes, but given the opportunity, I will pig out on them. I am allowed 35-40 carbs per meal, so I should not be having this problem. I think my biggest problem is - should I be concentrating on the amount of carbs OR should I concentrate on the calories?

jayabee52 2014-01-26 21:11:34 -0600 Report

I have found that it is better to concentrate on the carbs. Fat has calories (9 cal per oz) whereas everything else including carbs has only 4 cal per oz. But you will find that if you eat an oz of fat you will not raise your Blood Gucose (BG) levels all that quickly ( it will eventually become changed to glycogen in the liver, but that takes hours. If one consumes i oz of carbs (especially the simple carbs) the BG spikes rather quickly. One of the things we are all about is to keep our BG levels from going too high.

Fats may do other nasty things to us but it but it takes its sweet time doing it. So for me the greater danger is with the carbohydrates, especially the simple ones.

I believe that YOU CAN control your eating. It may take a bit of will power to go the 30 or so days to form a habit, but once you become habituated to this way of eating, it eventually becomes like 2nd nature. I also do tricks in my head. I am given commodity foods in my low income apartment complex. I receive things which for either my Diabetes meal plan or my Dialysis meal plan are no nos for me, so i tell myself this is poison for me, and I give those things away either in the complex or will give them to my church for distribution througn the social services agency connected to my denomination. But for me those items are poison.

BTW you may call me James.

NSnell 2014-01-26 21:24:34 -0600 Report

This is great information, I like the idea of labeling things as "poison" to me. I never thought of it like that, but you are absolutely right! Thank you for allowing me to call you James, I am Norleen.

jayabee52 2014-01-29 15:15:28 -0600 Report

May I call you Norleen?

I do things like that all the time. When I first embarked on my new eating plan to try to manage my Blood Glucose (BG) without the use of diabetes meds I thought of that as my "experiment" That way if I didn't accomplish what I desired out of that exercise, I didn't fail. the experiment just didn't pan out as I had hoped. Plus if it failed I DID learn something, Kinda like when someone remarked to Thomas Edison about all his failed experiments on finding the material for the light bulb, he said "I have successfully found 5000 materials which did not work"..

So rather than beat myself up for a failure, which I easily do. I put a better, more positive spin on it and it helps me a lot.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-01-26 16:16:59 -0600 Report

In my opinion, the control has to start with you. We can offer thousands of suggestions but until you make the changes you need to make, nothing we say is going to stop you.

If you haven't spoken with a nutritionist, do so. He/she can help you build a meal plan that will help you to feel fuller longer. Odds are you may need to change the kinds of food you are eating.

It could be the smaller meals that you are eating. This could cause you to possibly not eat enough food because you are spreading it out over longer periods of time throughout the day. If you are active, you are burning off the carbs and calories of the smaller meals which will leave you feeling hungry. I eat three meals a day for the simple reason the 5-6 small meals left me feeling like I was starving.

When I was diagnosed, my doctor put me on a 1200 calorie per day diet and told me how many carbs per meal I can have. I lowered the calories to 1000 because I am use to those kinds of diets. I can have 60 carbs per meal. I asked why so high and he said he based it on my height and weight and the fact that I am always busy doing something. I rarely make it to 60 carbs per meal.

For snacks I use cheese and crackers, a fruit cup, low fat yogurt, an apple, or the very small Halo tangerines. Since I am now on the Weight Watchers Points Plus Diet system, I calculate everthing I eat and stay within my points for the day. They give everyone 49 extra points which I never use. I have added their lowest point snacks which are not sugar free but they have low carbs. Because of what I eat which is mainly meat and veggies, I can have their snacks with no problems and I am rarely hungry.

NSnell 2014-01-26 17:05:17 -0600 Report

Dear Just Joyce, thank you for being so frank, and you are correct, it all boils down to one person ME. I have seen a nutritionist. Again, thank you for your thoughts.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2014-01-26 17:20:41 -0600 Report

I am so glad that you have. You may want to have another talk with the nutritionist. Sometimes we have to change our meal plans and what we eat.

NSnell 2014-01-26 13:49:49 -0600 Report

Dear Choffmann81, thank you so much for responding, that in itself means a lot. Eating more salads is an excellent way to go. I don't care much for dressings, but salt, pepper and lemon juice is good for me. Thank you again.

Choffmann81 2014-01-26 12:08:14 -0600 Report

NSnell, It is always difficult to cut calories. I've been trying to lose weight recently myself. I want to decrease my basal insulin rate. Some things that I have tried are eating more salads because I can eat a higher volume without the calories. I track every calorie I intake even if I have have have something to increase my bloodsugar level. I don't deny myself some of the things I like to eat. Like last night I had a baked potato with 1oz of cheese, 1 serving of light sour cream and some bacon which was 440 calories all together and kept me pretty full. My bloodsugar was good at 91 this morning when I checked it. If the cravings are too much for you then you could try having low-cal snacks around. If you have a sweet tooth you can always try eating cottage cheese with pineapple and walnuts. The important thing is to hang in there. Your struggle will be worth it in the end. You'll have a better healthier life. Keep up the good work.

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