My meds cause me false sense of security................

By Red-Sox-Rich Latest Reply 2014-01-27 19:17:50 -0600
Started 2014-01-06 19:52:54 -0600

My first major med was Lisinopril for high blood pressure. I felt it "kept me safe" so I could eat whatever I wanted. I didn't lose the weight I needed and just plugged along.
Fast forward 8 years and now I am on Metformin. I am Type II. I really started strong losing 16 lbs. and all looked pretty good. My numbers were in the low 100's. All is well, right?
I am using the meds as a crutch to continue bad habits. Have any of you experienced this and what do you do to break this awful habit??
Thanks, Rich

35 replies

Red-Sox-Rich 2014-01-13 18:12:24 -0600 Report

So a brief update. Today I was able to get my exercise in and healthy meals as I start to commit to better health. I wanted to thank everyone who replied. Many were inspiring and some scare the hell out of me. So now it's time to own up !!

Chopstix 2014-01-13 13:59:28 -0600 Report

Don't feel too bad about yourself. Mine was lisinopril, metformin, diabeta and lipator at the same time. After much research I decided to go as much natural and fat free as my job, over the road truck driving, would allow. It was not overnight but I managed to go from 250 lbs to 220 then to 210 last year. January 2013 I injured my hand but it bleed under the top layer of skin. At some point that came off and I guess part of the clot stayed inside of me and possibly caused my three heart blockages on 18 February. 22 April 2013 I had bypass surgery where as I was put on insulin. While healing, I started losing weight again! My weight went down to 179 lbs. Now is has been staying about 185-190. Went back to work the end of September and then the Government put me on disability the first part of November. Go figure. I guess was because the EKG I had in August showed old heart damage that was unknown to me or my doctor. The almost funny thing about the heart attack was I had just passed my physical the week before…

Skatinlayton 2014-01-12 11:05:07 -0600 Report

Rich, I was hospitalize in July of 2012 when diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. My numbers were through the roof. They said if I had waited one more day I would have been commatose and close to death. Well this scared the crap out of me. For the next year I logged everything I put in my mouth. Took 3 shots of insulin plus one at night daily. I got better. I went of my mealtime shots and was doing fine. But then it happened. What I had feared all along. I got used to it. I got lazy… I quit watching what I was eating. Boom… I'm back on My shots at three times the dosage that I was. I guess what I am trying to tell you…and tell myself is that it takes will power. Just like dieting… Dealing with all these drugs will only get better if we stand up and do something about it.

Red-Sox-Rich 2014-01-12 13:46:03 -0600 Report

Man, Thanks a lot! Along with the other excellent replies, yours has me ready to stop saying " next week". With the support of family,friends and this community, I am ready to get it together… count on that !!

Sweetbutterfly 2014-01-09 20:57:48 -0600 Report

I am so overwhelm with all this information the more I read the more scare I get. How I am going to improve my diabetes if I though I knew everything, I have type 2 and I weight 130 pounds when I was diagnosticated with D and as soon I got into Avandia I got up to 150 pound and now I am 187 but I do not go over or I do not lose any weight and in top of that I have Gastroparesis, Fibromyalgia, IBS and Osteoarthritis. I am glad I do not have heart or kidney problems but it made sad that sometimes people do not understand what we going through everyday trying to control diabetes. I do not longer take Avandia only lantus and Novolog. I need your help!

Glucerna 2014-01-10 20:55:31 -0600 Report

You're right that it's often overwhelming dealing with diabetes management. That's where this group is really helpful and supportive. I also encourage you to work with a diabetes educator who can answer your questions and help you figure out the best way to improve your overall health. ~Lynn @Glucerna

Dr Gary
Dr GaryCA 2014-01-09 19:55:40 -0600 Report

Hi Rich!

My diabetic clients have often talked about how they have gone through a similar stage in their treatment. Just wanting the medication to do everything and denying the need to make diet and lifestyle changes. I tend to hear this more often in terms of how newly-diagnosed people view their treatment. But they also described feeling so much healthier and in control when they got serious about their self-care.

Very interesting and honest post!


Red-Sox-Rich 2014-01-09 20:14:42 -0600 Report

Thank you Dr.
Being in a supportive community has already helped me cope with my diabetes in ways a spouse or friends, with good intentions , can not understand. Thank you all for replying.

Graylin Bee
Graylin Bee 2014-01-08 18:42:36 -0600 Report

After observing how my mom-in-law ( and other T2 diabetics) kept eating whatever she wanted and her insulin kept getting upped and complications increased when I was diagnosed I didn't want to follow that path.
It has been almost a year since I felt the annoying tingle in my toes that warned me I had overindulged in carbs the day before. This was my early warning system that nerve damage was happening. I did not want it to get worse.
It has been about 2 and 1/2 years since I decided to stop the metformin. I hated that I had to eat extra carbs just to keep from crashing, suddenly. Or, going to high if my body chose to ignore what the metformin was trying to get it to do to process the extra carbs.
By opting to try diet control only, it seems I am staying more level and at a more consistent good BG level. And don't have to worry if I might be one of the unlucky ones that manmade drugs cause further problems to deal with. I figure my odds of winning the mega millions probably is the inverse of my odds of getting a med induced complication.

denipink57 2014-01-08 04:52:05 -0600 Report

i just tweaked my diet. i made sure i was eating only really healthy foods so even if i ate more than usual no damage was done.

Red-Sox-Rich 2014-01-08 05:31:23 -0600 Report

This all is a work in progress. My problems seems to be that stress knocks me back a step but I now know to keep fighting.

denipink57 2014-01-08 06:26:33 -0600 Report

you know what Red? i make many steps backwards, the point is i am always working towards my goal and since i have been working away at it so much now the steps forward are there more than the steps backward. it is all about progress and identifying where the problem lies. once we are 100% honest and can become entirely committed to going towards where we need to be we are then doing what it takes to succeed. it all takes time and lots of effort. never stop trying and you will get there. otherwise you can just stay stuck and i doubt very much that you will settle for that.

jigsaw 2014-01-07 18:00:36 -0600 Report

After reading all these excellent replies, there is only a few words that I can offer. Allow me to be as gentle as necessary. We all need to kick ourselves in the butt every now and then. You're in good company!

GabbyPA 2014-01-07 17:15:53 -0600 Report

I see it happen a lot. Sometimes people who take insulin just eat what they want and increase their dose. Or the oral meds make us feel a relief that causes us to let our guard down. I know for myself, before I was on meds, I worked like a fiend to try to get my levels down. I have to keep working like a fiend, even now that I am on meds, because to be honest, they don't really do much for me. Nick helped me a lot with getting into his mindset of diet and exercise.

Red-Sox-Rich 2014-01-07 18:14:09 -0600 Report

I feel like there are many people in this community to go to for help. One day I hope to be able to be as helpful to others. Thanks all for the advice!

Nick1962 2014-01-07 16:20:23 -0600 Report

Hmmmm, where have I heard this before. Oh wait, that’s me in 2007.
I honestly thought that once you have high blood pressure, high cholesterol and diabetes, that was it – you’re doomed for a life on meds. Being overweight all my life, I pretty much gave up any hope of seeing retirement (like most of the males in my family). On 5 meds, pushing 280 lbs. and a back so shot I couldn’t walk across a parking lot, I figured my days were numbered and I felt like the end couldn’t come soon enough. Talk about depression. I was not a pleasant person to be with.
My new chiropractor was pretty blunt with me – she said she’d continue to treat me, but I’m only making her boat payments. I got the hint and took her “healthy eating/biggest loser” course (begrudgingly).

Today – over 100 lbs. lighter, only on one “maintenance” med for blood pressure due to age and family history, stellar results on all my lab work (and not just “for my age” stellar either) and doing things I never thought I’d be doing. Luckily the hole I had dug for myself hadn’t gotten so deep I couldn’t climb out.

My advice – keep away from the edge of that hole and do what’s in your power to stay away. Once you slip even one foot in, you’re in for mental, physical, and financial issues that only compound. I’d make it a goal to get off what meds you can, because as you get older, those doses never get smaller (or cheaper). I’m assuming you not only want to see, but also enjoy old age right? Don’t let what you’ve worked all your life for slip away. You can be buying insulin or a trip to the Bahamas in 10 years. As a T2, what you do now will determine which it will be.

Red-Sox-Rich 2014-01-07 18:12:30 -0600 Report

Wow, my eyes are wide open. You really got my attention. I need to stop feeling sorry for myself and stop procrastinating. Thank You Nick.

jigsaw 2014-01-07 18:02:53 -0600 Report

Nick, your story is nothing short of amazing! I know, I'm definitely impressed!!!

Nick1962 2014-01-07 19:29:50 -0600 Report

I won't say i was given a second chance, more like a last chance. The only thing I'd say is amazing or impressive is I wised up.

dagger1234 2014-01-07 14:08:35 -0600 Report

No one should depend on their meds and use it as an excuse to still do bad with their health. It may help now but eventually it will catch up to you. I'm glad u are realizing u need to do something about it, and I'm glad to read others horror stories turning then straight. That's what sometimes happen when you think it'll never happen to you etc because that's what happened to me not caring about myself..if lead me to having diabetes!

Red-Sox-Rich 2014-01-07 18:09:16 -0600 Report

Thanks dagger,
You would think it would be easy to just change because your life depends on it. Like Glucerna said maybe it's because I am hoping it would go away. Time to step it up.

Glucerna 2014-01-07 14:04:38 -0600 Report

I appreciate your honesty Rich. Everyone has a different reason for avoiding taking responsibility for changing habits to improve our health. It could be fear, stubbornness, a hope that it will all go away if we ignore it, or that changing habits takes work and effort. I think you're on the upswing and are ready to make changes! ~Lynn @Glucerna

jayabee52 2014-01-07 02:22:41 -0600 Report

Howdy Rich
When first Dx'd in 1995 I was kinda like what you describe. I took metformin but didn't really watch my food intake.

You may get along OK for a while, but eventually your numbers will creep up into the mid 100s to low 200s. You'll tell your Dr and s/he will probably up your dose of met (up till the max dose of 2500mg/day) or will try another medication which has a slightly different way of working. When those eventually fail you may be put on insulin injections. All the while you may well be doing damage to your body and developing complications.

I believe that if I had gotten serious about what I was putting into my mouth, I may not have the complication of burning diabetic neuropathy in my legs and every step would not be painful for me. I

I came to my belief about eating too late in my life with T2 to head off many of my complications. I have learned how to manage my diabetes through what I eat and avoid eating. I had been injecting NPH insulin 2 x/d but no more. I don't take any diabetes meds to manage my T2.

I have written up a discussion on what I do to manage my T2 without the use of diabetes meds. I will share it should you ask me.

I pray you take heed to those who wish you good and that you discover what works for you.

James Baker.

Red-Sox-Rich 2014-01-07 18:02:58 -0600 Report

Would love to read your discussion, thank you.

jayabee52 2014-01-07 21:41:26 -0600 Report

Here is what I did with my meal plan ~ Please do me the kindness of letting me know what you think of it on that discussion and if you plan to try something like it.

Praying the best for you and yours (yes, even the red sox — LoL)

Red-Sox-Rich 2014-01-10 21:05:06 -0600 Report

Thank you JB for sharing. I Will be caught up by this weekend to read your meal plan… in between football of course! And no I am not a Patriots fan, believe it or not… Seahawks! :)

haoleboy 2014-01-06 21:16:09 -0600 Report

my story was pretty similar to yours Rich … Diagnosed with hypertension and diabetes. Took my meds, stopped drinking soda, but that was about it. A year ago this week I had a stroke. I am disabled now but lucky I didn't die. I got real serious real fast about getting healthy.
find some other way to get serious brother … you really don't want to go through what I have.

locarb 2014-01-27 19:17:50 -0600 Report

I admire how honest you are. I hope you're doing better. Your story is touching and inspiring. I'm really glad that you're here.

jigsaw 2014-01-10 08:25:25 -0600 Report

Sorry about your neg experience, but I'm pleased that you are here with us. Your posts are a positive contribution, and with positive impact.

Red-Sox-Rich 2014-01-07 05:49:57 -0600 Report

Thank you James and haoleboy for your sobering and effective words of wisdom, I am now going to get my arse in gear. Thank you. Rich

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