My job just told me to go home...

dagger1234
By dagger1234 Latest Reply 2013-12-11 20:03:28 -0600
Started 2013-12-01 15:53:28 -0600

I am newly diagnosed and I started my job two weeks ago. The second week, I had so many appointments with my diabetic counselor that I had no choice but to miss work. I could not get a doctor's note. I was told I could get it next appointment with my doctor (which will be on the 3rd of this month) But I went in today and my supervisor told me he wasn't expecting me today because I've been calling in *sick* too much. I told him I was recently diagnosed with diabetes and I had no other choice but to go, my health comes first. He told me that was fine but I need a doctor's note. I told him on the 3rd, I could provide it because that's when I see my doctor. He then said I would have to bring in my doctor's note and take it up with HR to see if they'll let me come back.

I recently got an apartment with my boyfriend and now, I don't know what to do with our money situation anymore. I just want to give up but I am trying hard to be positive but it's so complicated. I am so stressed!! I also forgot to take my medication today and my blood sugar level is rising and rising *sighs*

How do you cope with stress, everyone? :(


36 replies

Ann Wambui
Ann Wambui 2013-12-09 05:57:04 -0600 Report

So sorry.. i feel you. Keep strong and there will another open up for you, where you will not have to go under all these.

dagger1234
dagger1234 2013-12-05 13:19:38 -0600 Report

UPDATE: So I just came back from my job and gave them my doctors note. They told me they are willing to take me back as long as I get another doctor note stating that I am okay to work and if I do, I can start as soon as this Sunday. Problem is, I won't see my doctor until the 24th.

Do you guys think I could get another doctor to make a note for me?

DulaxTrainer
DulaxTrainer 2013-12-10 10:55:55 -0600 Report

Try calling your doctors office and have them write a note for you before seeing your doctor. I've had to do that several times when I was first diagnosed with diabetes.

Dr Gary
Dr GaryCA 2013-12-06 10:49:17 -0600 Report

You might want to call your doctor's office and see if his/her staff can help you. You may be able to get the note without having to have an appointment. Worth a try.

dagger1234
dagger1234 2013-12-07 01:03:23 -0600 Report

I got one! Went to see the receptionist and told them I needed a note ASAP to work so I waited for the doctor after her appointment and got one! :D

One Step at a Time
One Step at a Time 2013-12-04 16:36:44 -0600 Report

I have read all this, but can't figure a few things out:
1. Type 1 or 2?
2. What type of job are you in?

I'd have to say, just by reading this that if you are in a job that has high turnover (daycare worker, waitress, etc) that if the employer isn't willing to work with you, you don't want to continue working there. If you take this to the legal level, what are you trying to gain? If it's to keep your job, are you going to be happy there to make the fight worth it? I'm a teacher, so I'd fight for the job. It's salary with benefits. When I was waiting tables in college, I would have gone to another restaurant. No biggie.

Now, about handling stress: I run. I hate to run, so sometimes I hike or just go for a walk. I put on some good music on I Heart Radio and just have some "me time".

Stress will absolutely raise your blood sugar, so if you can find a favorite activity, that will really help. It's hard to get control when it's early in your diagnosis if you're stressed.

Anyway, I hope it all works out. Keep us posted.
<3

dagger1234
dagger1234 2013-12-04 16:39:39 -0600 Report

I work in the food department. Food prep and packaging. I don't think this job is worth it but with the recession now a days, money is tight and I am I'm in need. I just got an apartment with my bf and it's going to be tough on him. I want to contribute. He understands if I'm not feeling well enough to work, it's fine but it will be very hard to get by.

Hr still hasn't gotten back. I called twice and left two voicemails. :/ I cannot return to work until they call me.

dagger1234
dagger1234 2013-12-02 20:18:38 -0600 Report

I didn't mean to sound snappy but you were jumping to conclusions about the "what I could've done and shouldn't done" game. I understand no job wants to lose people especially when the job is in demand with production. I spoke to hr and I will hear the outcome tomorrow when I show them my doctors note.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2013-12-02 20:41:10 -0600 Report

Dagger, I don't pay any attention to snappy people and don't care if anyone gets mad or angry with me. Life is way to short to worry about petty things.

Why people ask for suggestions or opinions and then get upset because they don't like what they read or hear is beyond me. When a person asks for suggestions or opinions, that person should be opened minded enough to listen or read the responses they get.

You talked to HR and are awaiting an outcome. Please don't get upset because they decide to let you go. If they don't and decide to keep you, become the best employee they have. Good luck.

dagger1234
dagger1234 2013-12-02 20:44:25 -0600 Report

Suggestions are okay. Assuming is another thing. But it's fine. I'm not mad I was just offended you assuming. I understand most people lack common sense and would take up a job and have other priorities and obligations. It's okay I'm not mad at u and not holding grudges. I appreciate your concerns! *hugs

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2013-12-02 14:30:31 -0600 Report

Unfortunately, the manager has the right to send you home. Diabetes does not mean a free ride. In other words if you have been sick too much and you are in violation of their sick leave policy they can fire you or in your case ask you to go home and return with a sick note. Always read the employee handbook. Everything in it can be used against you if you violate company policy. If the job requires a 90 day probation period they can keep you and terminate you at the end of that period. As a new employee, I would have never told my boss that my health comes first. You basically told him that if you don't feel well you won't be at work. He has no reason to want to keep you as an employee.

Most doctors office have a prewritten form that can be filled in and signed by either the doctor or his nurse. I have never had to wait for a note to be sent to me. I always tell them at registration that I will need a doctors note and the form goes on my file and the doctor signs it while I am with him. A copy is made at the desk when I reschedule my next appointment.

As a new employee, you have no value to them so they are less likely to work with you. Telling the manager that you were recently diagnosed after being told to go home is too late. You should have had a conversation with him/her and informed him that you are newly diagnosed and informed him of the appointments you had scheduled prior to accepting the job. Once they let you return, schedule appointments for after your work hours or on Saturday if your doctor has Saturday hours.

dagger1234
dagger1234 2013-12-02 16:07:46 -0600 Report

You sure like assuming don't you? I told them I had a doctors appointment prior to starting. They told me to get all my appointments out of the way before doing so. I took a blood test that day and went back to work. The hospital called me a week after saying I have diabetes. So how can I have told my work "prior" to working. Please don't assume because you make an ass out of yourself. And last of all, I never mentioned anything that I have diabetes and now it's my "get out of jail" card. For the billionth time, someone recommended me to contact ada. I never even heard about them. Like I said this job is not worth it but I have spoke to an hr assistant and will handle it accordingly.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2013-12-02 20:15:36 -0600 Report

There is no point in getting upset. As you stated "I told him I was recently diagnosed with diabetes and I had no other choice but to go, my health comes first". I didn't assume anything.

When people get upset it is usually because they don't tell the entire story. You never said what you are saying now.

I have been a manager and I know that they don't have to work with you. Doctors appointments are considered either A. "entire sick day" if you don't come to work before or after an appointment or B. considered "sick" time if you do come to work or return for a doctors appointment. When it is reviewed it still counts as used sick time.

Prior to being a manager, on the same job I was the union shop steward and have set in on countless hearings with people who have used sick leave in a manner that it was considered abuse of sick leave.

You say this job isn't worth it, however it is far better than having no job until you can get another one. Irregardless of where you work, you are going to run into problems with illness if you have a chronic disease. You can say I am assuming all you want and if it makes you feel better that is fine with me.

Yerachmiel
Yerachmiel 2013-12-02 10:36:13 -0600 Report

Your absolute first job is calling the doctors office and having them fax a letter to your employer (and copy you) with the facts of the matter: you were diagnosed with Diabetes on "date: xxx/xxx" and had the following set of medical appointments in order to attain the initial control. They should then spell out the estiamated list of appointments for the next month or so and indicate that they feel you will be back to working full time wihtout interruption within (four, six, eight or whatever weeks or days).

They will know the correct leagaleze to put into the letter in order to stop any problems. I know that at one time I was having many bouts of cellulitus and had to take much time off fromwork hosptialized (and I had computer in hospital and sent in reports and when doctor thought things would improve and even pictures of me in bed with IV just in case (and a few co-workers visited).

Dr Gary
Dr GaryCA 2013-12-01 21:06:16 -0600 Report

Hi dagger,

Welcome! I am glad you are here.

Really sorry to hear what happened on your job. Being newly diagnosed presents so many new changes and challenges, and having problems at work certainly adds to the stress.

I encourage you to work with your HR department and see if there is anything you can do to advocate for yourself. You never know what you might be able to work out.

As for the stress, this is a good time to reach out for support. Support is an important aspect of your self-care. So stay in touch with us!

Take good care of yourself,

Gary

dagger1234
dagger1234 2013-12-01 21:10:18 -0600 Report

Thank you. And I hope HR can do something to help. I'm going to go back in and talk to hr in person since they weren't there when I went. If they don't, I guess it's time to search again for a job or focus on myself. Health is first!

dagger1234
dagger1234 2013-12-01 17:53:48 -0600 Report

Should I call ADA after HR says I can't come back to work or do it now?

Nick1962
Nick1962 2013-12-01 18:49:42 -0600 Report

Sorry, but as a previous manager, I doubt they’ll be any help. Plus, even if they were, would you want to hang around in a job you just attempted to take legal action against? And, if we’re talking about the Americans with Disabilities Act, and not the American Diabetes Association, you would most likely have to apply for, and be acknowledged as having a “disability” which is “a substantial limitation on a major life activity”. This is broken down into three items
(1) Does the individual have a physical or mental impairment?
(2) Does that impairment limit a major life activity? and
(3) Is that limitation substantial?
In other words, your life has to be drastically affected. Here’s some legal speak on it http://www.diabetes.org/assets/pdfs/know-your...
Too often people think that the Americans with Disabilities Act gives people certain rights, but all it does is give them “accommodations”, and those accommodations only extend as far as your value to the company. I had to take time off for back surgery (during which I was truly “disabled”). Our (generous) policy was a total of 5 sick/personal days without a medical note. I was out 8 weeks and required to apply for a medical leave of absence at least 3 weeks prior. They still didn’t “guarantee” my job.

You haven’t shared the whole story here – how many days were you off? What is your company’s policy regarding sick days? Why couldn’t you get a doctor’s note? Were these just “personal days” while you got your head around your diagnosis or were you physically too sick to do your job?

I worked in food for over 20 years, and I agree it’s best to stay home than risk a possible incident, and especially if you have direct customer contact like a waitress. I’ve sent folks home for minor colds and just poor attitudes because it reflected poor service. I get that. But opening this can of worms is not going to do anything positive in the long run. Best to focus those energies on finding a new (and better) job and start learning about managing and conquering your newly diagnosed condition.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2013-12-02 14:40:13 -0600 Report

Nick I agree with you 100%. I have been a manager. I fired a girl at the end of her 90 day probation becasue she told me her kids were far more important that a job and she had missed exactly 50 days at work during her probationary period.

One of the first things a new employee should ask about are the company policies such as asking if there is an employee handbook, what are sick leave, vacation policies.

Sometimes it is better to come to work and be sent home because you are sick than to call off. It shows the employer that you are dedicated and want the job.

Unfortunately, these days most employers don't care becasue they can let you go knowing someone else is in line who will take the job.

Nick1962
Nick1962 2013-12-02 15:43:40 -0600 Report

I might have come off a little hard on Dagger, but I’ve had so many people try to outsmart “corporate” using ADA, FMLA, and the like that when I hear “you have rights” I get a nervous twitch.
It’s one of the reasons I left that line of work. Had too many otherwise good employees fall on some bad circumstances, that through knee-jerk reactions (which were understandable at the time) caused a great deal of unnecessary stress all around. Chances are if you work for a “revolving door” company, with managers that don’t work with you (which sounds like a place she describes), your days are numbered to begin with these days. Best just to run from that job, because it won’t get any better.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2013-12-02 20:25:09 -0600 Report

I agree again Nick. Far too often people thing that they are going to outsmart "coporate" because they have rights but don't fully understand those rights.

Corporate has 2 goals, making money and making sure the work is getting done. They know they don't have to put up with peoples personal problems and they will show you the revolving doors. The person finds out the hard way that they had no clue about the rights they thought they had.

I got fired because of an illness. I was sent to Employment Assistance for a 6 week review. The couselor was my bosses best friend and told her what was happening. My boss who was a total idiot slipped up and let that slip on the day I was fired. I first filed a grievance that went all the way up to a state hearing officer. I got my job back. The day I got it back, I was offered a buy out if I wouldn't sue them. They were dumb enough to send me the check with the paper work to sign. I turned it over to an attorney. He filed the required paperwork and I sued them and won. Never ever try to out smart corporate if you don't know how to play the game.

Nick1962
Nick1962 2013-12-03 09:39:07 -0600 Report

In the 20 years I was in that job I was threatened with legal action 3 times for wrongful dismissal. Only one went to court, but the case was never heard because the judge threw it out. Unfortunately, that employee paid a huge legal fee and it now shows up on her background checks. Not something a prospective employer likes to see. Sad thing is she just needed a little more training and a little less attitude and everything would have been fine. Can’t say it enough – always let things cool a while in a situation like this.

dagger1234
dagger1234 2013-12-01 19:19:52 -0600 Report

I never said I was going to call them. I just don't know how to handle this situation and I never been through it before (obviously). I was simply asking for suggestions, and someone referred me to ADA. Of course people would take advantage or think they had more rights.

I don't think this job is worth it. I am just going to suck it up and find another job. I had 4 days off overall within a week and a half. My doctor prescribed me the wrong meds for a bladder problem and I almost fainted at work twice but I managed to be okay and didn't…thankfully. I understand this job has too many demands and I wasn't ready for it apparently since it was a bad time to be diagnosed and having to accommodate work and my health issues together is just too much for me to handle right now. Maybe I just need to take a break and focus and take care of myself before I work. :(

Nick1962
Nick1962 2013-12-02 08:39:52 -0600 Report

Sorry, didn’t mean to sound like I was jumping on you. I get little over-eager when people start mentioning “rights” and “ADA” right from the start. Manager’s jitters still hanging on I guess.
I would say you were legitimately sick, but it sounds like you don’t need the stress of this job right now. You’re right – take some time for you.

Diabeticspeaker
Diabeticspeaker 2013-12-01 17:52:21 -0600 Report

It's not being confrontational we as diabetics have to stand up for our rights our they will never respect and that's means any employer trust me. I am in a fight now for five plus years in federal court . It's not easy but making a stand and EEOC is on my side.

Diabeticspeaker
Diabeticspeaker 2013-12-01 17:32:05 -0600 Report

You have rights ( federal) ADA protects you from discrimination and you need to tell them that your are being discriminated against. Need more help let me know.

dagger1234
dagger1234 2013-12-01 17:41:19 -0600 Report

*sighs* I did not want to seem confrontational. I was being defensive and snappy when he said I called in "sick" too many days. Mind you, this job has to do with food so I think they would rather have people in who are not "sick" to work rather than "sick" people. I said I was not "sick" but that I had health related issues and he seemed to shrug me off and told me to go up with HR. I went to see if the HR lady was in and she wasn't, so I called and left them a voicemail. If they do not call me tomorrow before my shift at 2pm, I will assume I am let go and pursue and file a complaint.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2013-12-02 14:35:11 -0600 Report

Don't make that assumption. Until they tell you that you are fired, don't quit. She may work with you but keep in mind she may not. Contact the Doctors office or go there and get the note and take it with you. In this case it may be better to let them fire you. That might give you a legal leg to stand on. If you quit. You won't have any legal avenue to take.

dagger1234
dagger1234 2013-12-02 14:37:02 -0600 Report

Just saw them today. They also now want my diabetic counselor note even though she's not a "doctor" per say but want more than a doctors note too. Guess they don't believe me? They said they'll call me back because hr wasn't there

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2013-12-02 14:47:02 -0600 Report

No matter what stop stressing and let this play out. For all any of us knows this could be a blessing and they will keep you on. Just learn to control your diabetes and try to schedule appointments based on your work schedule.