whey protein powders

By mspiggy81 Latest Reply 2013-11-29 08:59:41 -0600
Started 2013-11-26 03:32:19 -0600

I've been having a horrible time keeping weight on the last few months. I'm small to begin with, 5'4 and generally averaging around 95lbs. At my appt Oct. 30 I had dropped to 84lbs. then today I weighed in at 78lbs. My doctor says I have to put weight on "now". I go back in 2 weeks and if I haven't put some back on he's going to stick me in the hospital. My numbers are relatively low, early pre-diabetic, A1C 5.9%, FPG 105, OGTT 156. He said not to worry about my sugars right now, to focus solely on getting the weight back on. I'm just getting my carb intake sorted out to a manageable level and am starting to feel somewhat normal again. I don't want to completely toss that out. I was thinking of http://www.bodyfortress.com/vanilla-whey-prot.... At 340 cals it's only got 14g of carbs, 4 grams of sugar. Has anyone else tried whey protein shakes without BG issues as a result? Any other ideas on how to put on weight quick? I already eat 3-4 hard boiled eggs and at least 4 tablespoons of peanut butter everyday. I function best at no more than 20-25g of carbs per meal.

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Nick1962 2013-11-26 08:32:40 -0600 Report

Protein powders are one way to “bulk up”, however it’s usually in the form of muscle mass, which means you need to be exercising in order for them to work. Since they are protein, they won’t get stored. I used them at first to lose weight and get low calorie/carb protein in me.

If you’ve historically been thin, and not able to put on weight, you’re what we call a “hard gainer” (wish I had that trouble) so you’d need a mass gaining powder which would include milk whey plus enough surplus calories, carbohydrates and healthy fats to keep you from burning them away. Unfortunately, these kinds of powders usually come with high sugar levels too.

I gave up on these types of supplements because there is no way you can control the macro-nutrients you need, plus you can’t live on them and function in the outside world. You can get the same (or better) results with just plain food. Try fattier cuts of meat, frying eggs with olive oil, or even making egg salad. I’d never say this otherwise, but bologna might be a friend in your case too. Salads like tuna, turkey and chicken on a low carb tortilla wrap would certainly fall within your limits. This way you can control the protein, fat, and calories without dragging all the carbs in you don’t want.

Your numbers are pretty much ideal, and at your weight (and with your metabolism) you can easily afford the extra carbs as your doctor has already said. This is a rare opportunity for a diabetic, but he’s pretty much given you a license to eat – so do it.

mspiggy81 2013-11-28 15:46:46 -0600 Report

My numbers look good according to the charts but for some reason I'm hyper sensitive to even small spikes. Anything over 110 and I feel like pure crap. Breakfast has to be zero carbs, even a serving of peanut butter at 6g carbs first thing in the morning makes me feel off. I've got my meal plan set to a max of 20g per meal for lunch and dinner, 15g for snacks and as long as I stick to it I feel ok. I've gotten lots of great shopping ideas for next month. Our grocery budget is very tight and I'm still slowly working the higher carb items out of the pantry. I'm waiting for my thyroid test to come back to see if that may be a factor with my weight. Honestly I sort of hope it comes back positive, it means more medication, but then it should be easier for me to gain weight. My current doctor has told me that his diabetes knowledge is not very in depth so I'm working on a referral to a more knowledgeable physician and taking in everything I can online in the mean time. I'm trying to be as proactive as possible as early on as I can since I have a strong family history of diabetes with complications.

Nick1962 2013-11-29 08:59:41 -0600 Report

At your weight you really have no metabolic “buffer” so anything and everything seems to go straight into the bloodstream as fuel. Hypothyroidism really messes with diabetes because it kind of gives you “false positives” in that you may have a high BG reading, but that doesn’t mean your body is actually using it that glucose properly. I understand your feelings about wanting it to come back positive – it’s not the answer you want, but at least you know the playing field now and can act accordingly. However, with thyroid issues, most seem to gain a little weight and have higher cholesterol.

For this reason I’d really stay away from protein powders because you wouldn’t go through the normal system of digestion and conversion you would with whole foods. In fact, if I recall the thyroid uses iodine to convert into the hormone needed, so seafood, bread, and really anything with salt is beneficial.

Don’t know your age or medical history, and of course I’m no doctor, but for most people, an A1c under 7 is ideal. There are some physicians who advise - for folks like myself with weight issues and a family history of heart disease – and A1c of 6 or lower. Since I’ve been under 6 now for several years, my PCP no longer “treats” me for diabetes and considers it “dissolved”. That said, yes, you do have to watch it, but your weight issues seem to be more pressing.

You say you feel like crap at anything over 110. That may not necessarily be strictly the blood glucose that does that, but more importantly the food you ate to get there. My upper limit is about 180 before I feel bad. If it was a high carb meal that included bread, rice, or pasta (and I over did things), I’ll feel it. However, I can hit 180 eating deep fried catfish and hush puppies, but because of the high protein, I don’t (and that spike doesn’t last as long).

You’re right to watch your carb intake and eat healthier, but your self-imposed limits are what I was doing at my very strictest and I lost 116 lbs. Carbohydrates are the cells building blocks and you have to have them. Minimum for an average healthy women is 130/day, and for active women it can be as much as 300/day. http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/recommended-d...
Getting those carbs in and keeping a low BG level can be done with complex carb foods. Beans are great and go a long way on a budget, and while I don’t do dairy myself, full-fat cottage cheese might be something for you to try daily. Both bring in necessary fats and proteins so they’re not “empty” carbs.