lean and fat

By highlandcitygirl Latest Reply 2009-01-11 11:13:26 -0600
Started 2008-12-25 19:15:28 -0600

my brother is thin, and i'm not! we both have the same problem. why? it is very hard for me to understand.

21 replies

Pauline B
Pauline B 2008-12-26 15:43:04 -0600 Report

In a professional meeting I attended last November about recvent happenings in diabetes, thin, laboring people of third world people who eat native diets are coming down with Type 2 diabetes, and the thought is that there might be an environmental cause as well as a genetic cause to this disease. These people in New Zealand do not have a history of eating "manufactured food," channel surfing, or riding in automobiles. I will, if anyone wishes, get the source for the research, so they can review the data.

highlandcitygirl 2008-12-26 15:48:27 -0600 Report

i would love to see that! this is very interesting, i wonder why its not plastered on the t.v. they just like to make us big girls cry!

Pauline B
Pauline B 2008-12-27 02:58:45 -0600 Report

It will take a few days as I am going out of town (Seattle) to volunteer with Oregon's Whale Watch program, and then on to Port Townsend to ring in the New Year with my daughter and her family (that includes my youngest grandson, age 7 months). I neglected to write down the specifics of the research paper, like who published it, but I have quoted it several times, so even if I have to go to UW's med school library to get a hard copy I will, as I need it for my own use.

highlandcitygirl 2008-12-27 09:58:42 -0600 Report

wow! it is a pleasure to see someone so much living their life! i never learned how to really live mine. i am looking forward to more information,if you put it in a simple form,i'll understand it better. i get a headache sometimes trying to figure things out.

Pauline B
Pauline B 2008-12-27 11:03:07 -0600 Report

Thanks for your reply. I diagnosed my own diabetes within a month, probably, of noticing things weren't right. I was working as food service administrator in a hospitor where my lunch was free, sol I really pigged out. I noticed that every afternoon I got a funny headache, so mentioned it to 2 nurse friends. They got a glucometer and checked my glucose, which was elevated. As we all went to the same doctor, they threatened that if I didn't make an immediate appointment, they would. The next day the boss brought big fat bagels to an AM staff meeting. I had alreayd had my breakfast, so, after eating one of those bagels lavishly spread with cream cheese, we checked my glucose again. A reading of 220 prooved that my appointment was not in vain. Ten years later my fasting glucose lab values are still in the normal range, so I would have gone undetected at the doc's office, though all that damage would have been going on in my system. I vowed I didn't want to let diabetes control my life, so ate to limit raise in blood sugar spikes. As a nutritionist I knew the science, so followed a high protein and selected carb meal plan. I'm lucky to have high HDLs though the cholesterol and LDLs, as well as blood pressure need drugs to keep them low. A1c is 5.5. I've traveled all over, including Australia, and never had trouble going through iimigration with my meds or time zone chnages. At age 66 I still shovel snow (Seattle recently got more than it ever wants to see again), and play percussion in a community band. I eat most everything at a buffet, but hold back on pastas and whole grains for other medical reasons. I also have good family support.

I am sorry for those on this site who are not so lucky, and I wish I knew how to motivate them to adapt their world into a more postive space.

highlandcitygirl 2008-12-27 11:11:39 -0600 Report

i admire you greatly! i don't know exactly what knocked the motivation from me, but it happened at a early age and then every time i'd try to get up something else bad would happen! but i have enjoyed times of great freedom in my life and for these i am grateful! i would have liked to have gone to australia, but thats okay, i read books and look at pictures and let my mine go free to visit. thank you for the compassion you have for others,a GOD given gift that you use well.

Anonymous 2008-12-27 11:14:00 -0600 Report

It is all about learning what you can and cannot eat. I can go to the chinese buffet and not have a problem if I do not eat rice, but my downfall is bread. I love bread. I try to go to PUblix and buy their many grain breads. they seems to be better for me in controlling my sugars. As a diabetic it is alot of trial and error(many errors) and then one day it all clicks and life is better, I hope everyone in 2009 finds what works for them and stick with the plan to lessen the complications of high blood sugars.

2009-01-11 08:02:09 -0600 Report

My mom was never really heavy but chubby for a while, but she always took pride in her weight because of her place in the work world, so for the most part she was slim, and being under 5' foot, it showed instantly when she did gain weight, anyway my point is that she still got type 2 diabetes, which I believe was attributed to genes, and not necessarily weight. After she got the diabletes, she seemed to want to eat more and had a hard time resisting? I almost think sometimes she felt it was a disease with a punishment, telling her she could no longer eat sweets; so she did about 2 years after her diagnosis. I don't know, I just feel sometimes that when you are told you can't, you do.

Anonymous 2009-01-11 11:13:26 -0600 Report

My thing is I am trying to have tighter control to reduce getting anymore compications from diabetes. My one thing I wish I had known, is no one told me that if you have gestational diabetes to watch out later in life you could get type 2. I would have kept a tighter watch on my sugars if I had known. All I was told was after the baby sugars would return to normal which they did. So I thought I was fine, till 10 years later I was diagnose with type 2. That was a shock.

GabbyPA 2008-12-26 08:34:13 -0600 Report

People have to find some prejiduce in life. It is our nature unfortunatly. If it is not color, gender, or religious belief, then we find other things. Appearance is always an issue, whether it is the size, hair color or your teeth...the strangest things set people off. We think we are a tolerant species, but we are not. Sometimes people who are blind have better judgements. I think that is why the internet is so neat, because we become friends based on what is coming from the inside versus what we see on the outside.
I have been accused of the same as you. Infact, I was my worst accuser for a long time. I still do believe that I did not steward my body well. But I also believe that it was in my genes...not my jeans. LOL
Your story is one that needs to be shared so that people, even doctors, understand that this diesease strikes anyone.

highlandcitygirl 2008-12-26 11:04:41 -0600 Report

i wish there was a person that had the ability to get this information out there! i feel like we are being bullied by the government and media!

GabbyPA 2008-12-26 12:22:13 -0600 Report

We are, and it is being touted as a self inflicted disease, which it is not. It is an enabled disease though, and I think we have to accept responsibility for that part. BUT it is not as the main stream sells it. That is why we have to get involved in groups, start awareness here at home. We have that insight that others don't. I was going to wait for a group to start, but what is wrong with me doing the starting? I have not decided how I want to do it, but 2009 will see me more of an advocate out there.
It does suck that we buy into the media on so many things. This is just one aspect where the brainwashing is successful. They need to get rid of the companies that kill us with high fructose corn syurp and aspertame. They need to get the farmers to grow more diverse products and remove hydroginated oils from our foods. There are a lot of reasons for obesity and diabetes. If they really want to get rid of SOME of the causes, they need to start there.

highlandcitygirl 2008-12-26 15:26:25 -0600 Report

i agree with a lot of what you say. i feel like a sitting duck for every self-rightous judge that is in this country! yes we have a problem, but is the answer to have people turn against those with a problem! my weight has been up and down all my life , i am now fighting a losing battle to lose weight. i can't do this anymore! it is to depressing to lose weight, then gain it back. i would have been better off to have left well enough alone! if you find it in yourself to pick of the battle flag to speak out for us then i'm for you!

GabbyPA 2008-12-26 15:49:59 -0600 Report

Weight has been an issue with me for my whole life also. Up and down like a yo-yo. I am greatful in a way for diabetes, because it is giving me a reason to get into control. I gave up about two years ago with my weight battle. I ran out of desire, and with a husband who loves me for me, I just gave up. Now that has changed and I am excited to change my life, not my weight. That just ends up being a nice side effect.
Maybe this is natures way of culling the masses? Diabetes is spreading like wild fire and touching lives of all kinds.
The only way to get people to understand is to make them aware of the way things are in real life. We have to find ways to help people understand.

Avera 2008-12-25 22:19:16 -0600 Report

Hello Lady!

Hope your Christmas was a good one. The problem you mentioned is true for lots of brother and sister groups. As your other friend said, it is probably just genetics. Although, probably more so now, it could just be how each of you react to the meds that you take. So far, I haven't found a diabetic medicine that I can tolerate that doesn't cause me to gain.


2008-12-25 19:21:47 -0600 Report

I have no idea how I keep getting a double posting. This makes twice in the past couple of days that my same comments have posted twice, so I edited the second post. Sorry for the problem. I'll try to figure out what I'm doing wrong.

GabbyPA 2008-12-26 08:26:18 -0600 Report

It happens when you double click your "add a reply" button. I have done it too. I get impatient or I think it didn't click. That is what caused mine in the past.

2008-12-26 09:36:34 -0600 Report

Thanks!! I, too, get impatient. I'm glad I'm not the only one who is. LOL

2008-12-25 19:21:46 -0600 Report

I don't think there is any real answer to this question. I do think, however, alot of it goes back to your genetic make up. Some you get from your mother's side of the family, some from your father's. It just depends on which side you take after. Also, your metabolism has alot to do with it. Everyone is different.

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