Type 1's do you resent us T2's?

haoleboy
By haoleboy Latest Reply 2013-10-27 14:57:26 -0500
Started 2013-09-19 02:01:46 -0500

I recently had a discussion with my type 1 niece that started with her saying "Here's my prejudice as a Type 1: Type 2 diabetes is completely preventable, it's a result of lifestyle choices (poor diet, no exercise, being overweight). All those people who die from Type 2 diabetes don't have to, they just have to make the effort and make better choices in their lives."

i accept that my diabetes is due largely to my, formerly, unhealthy lifestyle. i did point out that "genetics loads the gun. lifestyle pulls the trigger" and that many of the diseases that plague modern society are due in large part to lifestyle.

I'd like to hear from Type 1's. Do you resent having to "share your disease" with us Type 2's?


59 replies

Spoildchic
Spoildchic 2013-10-01 16:58:00 -0500 Report

I don't resent T2s. I resent non-compliant diabetics. I work in a nursing home where I see what happens to the non-compliant T1s and T2s. I work my butt off to eat right, exercise, and maintain good control of my blood sugars, and don't have a lot of sympathy for people who know better and choose not to. I work with another nurse who actually told me she felt sorry for me because I have type 1 because I have to give myself insulin every meal. Yet I have no diabetic symptoms, my A1C is 7.7 (not fantastic, but not terrible either) and I am getting healthier. Her A1C is 10.5, she complains that she feels too weak at 90 and knows her body likes to be in the 200-300 range, can't feel her feet, and scoffs at the nutritionist who was trying to tell her she is morbidly obese and needs to practice portion control. I don't need the pity, thanks…

JoleneAL
JoleneAL 2013-10-27 14:51:03 -0500 Report

I don't feel good at 90 either, but 100 I'm fine. I feel sorry for her - not you! I know we all go through a denial and grief stage (I did) but my doctor told me that was normal, but I never just "lived" at 200. I get up that high and I feel crappy. (sigh)

george allshouse
george allshouse 2013-09-28 01:41:43 -0500 Report

The only time I get mad is when they say we are soo close to cure type 2 all the news and droctors and sincies saying it but as a type one I'm some what jelious of the type 2 because some of them can get in shape and reverse it but we all have to come together and fight as one because if we divide on this we won't win we need each other to stay strong and be there rock or there sounding board so all let's fight together

JoleneAL
JoleneAL 2013-10-27 14:51:45 -0500 Report

You'd think with all the money we "give" to these groups for particular conditions they would have found a cure by now. That pisses me off to no end.

dietcherry
dietcherry 2013-09-28 01:33:13 -0500 Report

Im a T1 of 34 years. We are all in the same boat, relatively speaking, and the only time I even bother to make the distinction now is when Im confronted with ignorance and bias regarding D. Countless times I ve been told Im too slim to be diabetic and look too healthy to have such a "sickly" disease.
I was a child when diagnosed and people correctly assumed then that I was T1. Since becoming an adult, I am mistaken for T2 more and more. I guess folks think T1s all die off at a young age lol
I take these opportunities to explain to others about our condition and how, although we may travel different paths arriving here, we are ultimately fighting the same enemy.
I do point out that T1 is an autoimmunity disease BUT I am also just as quick to point out that T2 has many origins and its just dead wrong to assume anyone brought it on themselves because of poor lifestyle choices…as if!

I admit with some shame that before I joined DC, I held some of the same prejudice against T2s as others not in the know. This site has given me a formidable knowledge of T2, and even taught me things about T1 when I had already assumed I knew it all, and my responsibilty is to spread the word and squash the negativity at every chance.

I feel an automatic kinship with someone when they reveal to me that they have D too. We instantly read the others thoughts, no words needed, and that is an AWESOME feeling :)

JoleneAL
JoleneAL 2013-10-27 14:54:24 -0500 Report

Gal at work told me once that I shouldn't eat hamburgers because I'll never cure my diabetes eating like that. I just laughed at her and enjoyed the burger. I then went to her desk and taught her about the condition. I had lost weight to the point I was underweight when I was diagnosed as a T2 - so I get the same thing, "You're not obese how could you get that disease?". I also do not have a thyroid and was warned that destruction of one part of the endo system could cause other parts to go haywire too.

Anonymous
Anonymous 2013-09-25 16:56:03 -0500 Report

I think your niece needs to remove head from outerspace and get her facts right. My mom weighed 121 lbs her whole life (even after 6 kids) she ate salads and more white meat then beef. She hardly ever ate sweets but yet she was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. So IT has NOTHING to do with your diet, exercise or weight. My grandmother was over 600 lbs. when she died and she ever ate was sweets and soda and she was NOT diabetic.

Chris Clement
Chris Clement 2013-09-24 17:25:23 -0500 Report

I am type 1; I don't resent type 2s. But I do get irritated by those who do not share our common ground that do not distinguish between the two types in their judgments and ignorant opinions.

splitpea922
splitpea922 2013-09-24 07:36:42 -0500 Report

The thing that gets me the most is people assume i got diabetes because I am over weight. The thing is though, a medicine i was on triggered my diabetes and now I am a type 1. I get tired of people telling me to eat better and exercise and it will go away…no medicine required. My endo told me that i could exercise and eat right but I would always need my pump. People dont get this. They say things like "my grandma is type 2 and she is off medicine." I always respond that that's great but i need insulin. It mostly irritates me that people dont know the difference between the two.

I also always see articles about "curing" type 2 and I get jealous.

But no, I dont resent anyone.

JoleneAL
JoleneAL 2013-10-27 14:57:26 -0500 Report

I get the ones, "My uncle lost his toe, you better not eat that or you will too." I don't associate with many people from work because of their stupid remarks about my weight or what I'm eating. Thank God for the internet and sites like this one where I at least am not judged.

fatso200
fatso200 2013-09-22 08:10:33 -0500 Report

i'm type 2. Feel bad for you j.d. type 1's. I will possibly start insulin. I accept my lifestyle did this. I don't fear death. I;m on a strict weightloss diet and miss food and pizza. I understand deeply your food limitations. I hope you find peace in your life.

Starry_D
Starry_D 2013-09-21 17:55:48 -0500 Report

Sometimes. It depends on the person. If someone is TRYING to make their life better (as you are) then YAY! Thank you!! You know what's best for not only your body, but your mind. Others, the ones that sit around and complain about how hard type 2 is, and it being "nearly impossible to cure" as they chew down their 5th slice of pizza, are the ones I dislike. They don't think about the fact that we CANNOT be cured, and they CAN. It is all in the way they want to act.

fatso200
fatso200 2013-09-22 08:12:06 -0500 Report

I gave up the bad eating recently and am on pennance diet to lose weight. My brother says I can never eat pizza again as long as I live. At least I won't quit smoking. I need to lose 50 lbs. I eat mostly dill pickles and n.f. cottage cheese. I accept my fate and responsibility.

Nick1962
Nick1962 2013-09-23 11:02:30 -0500 Report

You might just be able to prove your brother wrong. With some T2’s like us, it is possible that once you drop the weight and restore a somewhat “normal’ body chemistry, things like pizza (or anything really) can be eaten again in moderation. Just have to be smart about it. Oh, and welcome to the group!

tattedstar
tattedstar 2013-09-21 08:30:29 -0500 Report

I have had so many people say to me how are u diabetic your skinny. Every time I want to hit them. Wish they could walk a day in my shoes.

Hrothgar
Hrothgar 2013-09-21 13:00:34 -0500 Report

It's human to want to turn every bad thing that happens to us into a useful fable. It's also human to want to be absolutely horrible to people sometimes.

Some people take shame and wear it like a feather in their caps. They've all got answers from trouble they've known. Most off then don't have a clue. Anyway, the only opinion that matters is your own. Don't let them get you down.

Ky Lake Dave
Ky Lake Dave 2013-09-20 23:14:12 -0500 Report

I am a newly diagnosed type 2. My entire mothers side of the family is type 2. I am 51 and thought I had dodged this bullet. But no it got me too. No one has mentioned that I got this was because of diet or an unhealthy lifestyle. I was told (by my Dr) this was purely hereditary. I have always been reasonably fit. This is new to me and I did not know there was animosity between type 1 and type 2. So knowing this now, do we divide up and rumble?

fatso200
fatso200 2013-09-22 08:13:16 -0500 Report

Well here we now go with the dieting, exercise and testing bllood sugar, as well as newsletters and consultations, classes, websites and blogs. Say goodbye to all the fun foods. Hope you can handle it.

Ky Lake Dave
Ky Lake Dave 2013-09-22 08:32:19 -0500 Report

I have a wonderful wife that is about to give me a baby daughter. After four sons this will be a new adventure that I will fight tooth and nail and do everything in my power to be healthy enough to watch her grow up and enjoy it. Yes I can handle it. I have never given up on anything in my life. I have the will, desire and major motivation to diet, exercise, test blood sugar and seek out the heathy foods that will satisfy.

fatso200
fatso200 2013-09-22 10:08:16 -0500 Report

Congratulations on having a purpose. You have every reason to fight. I am lonely with no wife or kids and parents are dead. This will be difficult as I must find purpose. Good luck on your baby daughter and her life.

DulaxTrainer
DulaxTrainer 2013-09-20 17:35:18 -0500 Report

According to my diabetic specialist, I'm considered 1-1/2 type, because of the fact I donated part of my pancreas … To me, diabetes AT TIMES can be preventable, but at times there is no control of whether or not you will contract this disease.

So that being said … I do feel if a person is doing everything they can to control their issue of diabetes, then that's good, but if a person chooses to ignore their disease, then there isn't anything that can be done.

MrsCDogg
MrsCDogg 2013-09-20 12:16:38 -0500 Report

If you can not feel compassion for a person who suffers from some disease then it is a character flaw. No matter what that disease is.

Stuart1966
Stuart1966 2013-09-20 11:55:58 -0500 Report

WOW…(severe cringing). Rough question… not the identical creature, but both have massive dangerous teeth and will breath fire given any possible chance.

I accept I have a bias, but rarely act upon it. Excellent comparison, my question is WHICH WAY is that "gun" turned for any of us…? Can we UNLOAD ours ???

joemonzo08
joemonzo08 2013-09-20 09:17:50 -0500 Report

Nope. Yeah generally type 2 does occur from poor life choices but in other cases it doesn't. Also type 1 diabetics die from the same reason. So whatever you have we still. have to fight together. Just wish magazines and sites would focus a little more on type 1 though. I have only had type 1 for a few months now, but living with a type 1 diabetic for almost three years previously sucked because I could never find any good tips :/

Gabby
GabbyPA 2013-09-19 23:00:54 -0500 Report

I know feeling guilty about being a type 2 will not help me work at getting better control. I'm sorry that some people may feel there needs to be a "worse" or "better" option. Is brain cancer worse than liver cancer? They are both cancer, but in different ways. Does the one with lung cancer automatically be presumed to have brought it on with a life of smoking? Would I bemoan the cancer survivor by saying their cancer was not as bad as those who do not survive? I hope not.

I know there is a division of "I didn't deserve this type 1" as opposed to the "you deserved your type 2" but when you put it that way....is sounds very sad. That is why I love this site because we all are here to share in the victory, the struggle and the unfairness of what life has dealt each of us. No one deserves this diagnoses, but those who are the strongest will battle through it, no matter what type we have.

sincitylady
sincitylady 2013-09-19 19:23:47 -0500 Report

I'm a type 2 ? I resent the fact that people automatically think I over eat because I'm overweight . Let's. Band together. This is an immunosuppression problem. I suffer from no thyroid, diabetes, arthritis, adrenal insufficiency and it sucks . I didn't ask to have graves disease or to get diabetes. But it happened. Lets support each other.

Hangin in
Hangin in 2013-09-19 19:13:21 -0500 Report

I am a type 1 , wouldn't exactly say I resent "sharing the disease" with type 2's. We all know that eating for a lot of people is an addiction. That being said it is not so easy for some type 2's to simply lose weight. What I will say as a type 1 is, I wish like hell I had the option of losing weight to improve my blood sugar! But no amount of weight loss will ever make a type 1's pancreas produce more insulin. So I will say given a choice of being an over weight type 2 or a trim type 1 I guess I would say I would rather have that option of being able to lose weight to improve my health and blood sugar.
To become less insulin resistant.

haoleboy
haoleboy 2013-09-19 19:21:31 -0500 Report

I get that hangin in… and I think that was my nieces point. I know she has struggled with her diabetes all her life. she's done well but as she gets older (she's closing in on 40) things are getting tougher

Type1Lou
Type1Lou 2013-09-20 13:49:16 -0500 Report

As you no doubt sensed from my earlier reply, I thought your niece was much younger. I am now 64 and as I've aged, particularly since hitting 60, my body has changed considerably and presented me with additional challenges in dealing with my diabetes. If she thinks at 40 that things are getting tougher, I fear it's only the beginning. She does have a good role model in you and how you acted to regain control, despite your differing types of diabetes. Is she at all interested in joining Diabetic Connect? She might find some additional support and help from us other Type 1's if she's willing…

Hangin in
Hangin in 2013-09-19 20:28:13 -0500 Report

I guess it's a diabetic rollercoaster just when we think were getting the hang of it …changes take place and what was once working pretty good no longer is! That's why I am getting my 1st pump tomorrow I am hoping to get better control over my blood sugar ,and everyone seems to agree for a type 1 like myself this is the way to go. And I must say I am quite tired of being a human pin cushion! So wish me luck!

tattedstar
tattedstar 2013-09-21 08:23:04 -0500 Report

I loved my pump when I first got it, I lost 60 pounds in 4 months, 2 years later gained back and they took me off the pump. I had issues with it getting pulled out. But with needles I bruise so bad. At the end I did with the cathader but I wouldn't see it till I took it off

Type1Lou
Type1Lou 2013-09-20 13:55:15 -0500 Report

Bingo, although diagnosed in 1976, I didn't start pumping until 2011 (Had resisted it because I didn't want to be connected 24/7). I started pumping because the MDI which had worked for years was causing me some severe morning low BG's. Now I'm sorry I waited so long to pump…I'm loving it, using less insulin and gaining better control. Wishing you well!…what kind of pump are you getting?

haoleboy
haoleboy 2013-09-19 17:47:25 -0500 Report

I take full responsibility for my diabetes. As I mentioned both my mother and grandmother "died from" diabetes at young ages. At one point I weighed 325 pounds and ate … well like I weighed 325 pounds and was pretty sedintary. I have turned that around and have pretty much become a vegetarian (other than fish once or twice a week). Work out daily and now weigh 165 and for the first time in my life trying to gain weight. Diabetes appears to be under control(last month A1C was 6.1, down from 6.5 3 months earlier), blood pressure is on the low side of normal and cholesterol is spot on.

Type1Lou
Type1Lou 2013-09-20 13:44:18 -0500 Report

Congratulations on accepting the challenge of your diabetes and achieving outstanding results! With the proper mind-set, knowledge and will power there is much we can do to deal with our diabetes and you are living proof of that.

One Step at a Time
One Step at a Time 2013-09-20 06:03:40 -0500 Report

Congrats on getting control of your health! That's awesome. It is hard for anyone to loose that much weight and for that I applaud you! After I was diagnosed, the drs wanted me to put on the 20 pounds I lost from bring sick. I normally weighed 130 and was down under 100 when I ended up in CCU. Anyway, I've gained 25 pounds over 6 months by just increasing my good carbs at each meal. Now I'm at 120 and am reducing again to find balance. I added fruits at dinner for dessert and it really helped put on weight without adding too much to my BG.
My a1c runs around 6.7 right now, down from 18.9 in the ER 6 short months ago.
I don't know your drs plan for weight gain, but the healthy carbs worked for me. Good luck!!

Type1Lou
Type1Lou 2013-09-19 17:07:42 -0500 Report

Ah, the arrogance of youth…hopefully wisdom and tolerance will come with age. I think how we all got our diabetes is less important than how we deal with it now that we have it, whether we are Type 1, Type 1.5 or Type 2 or any other type! Don't lose sleep or fret about what could have been…just deal with it now in a responsible fashion. Could Type 2's have prevented their diabetes?…that's a big "Maybe" for some but there are many, many factors leading to diabetes, not all of them known. Our super-sized fast-food culture carries some of the blame, I think. Genetic predisposition is another, uncontrollable factor…(I guess if my Dad, who developed diabetes after I was born, hadn't procreated, it might be deemed "controllable"…but I have diabetes and my younger brother who was born after Dad did develop diabetes does not have it.) Certainly, better education about healthy lifestyles and eating might help but it will help us all. We're all in this together, and hopefully can offer fellow diabetics compassion and advice based on what is working for us. I wish we could get rid of this prejudice…it's ugly and ignorant and just down-right mean!

One Step at a Time
One Step at a Time 2013-09-19 15:45:36 -0500 Report

I don't think I have more freedom- lows are awful and I don't know a type 2 who has lows like a type 1… Do you?

Hangin in
Hangin in 2013-09-19 19:18:45 -0500 Report

One thing good about a low is it is the only time I will treat myself to something I would not normally eat! My dexcom keeps me in touch with those lows before they become a big problem. I love that thing!

One Step at a Time
One Step at a Time 2013-09-19 15:45:05 -0500 Report

I don't resent it- but as a type 1 I think it's more of a frustration that I've done everything I can to stay healthy, my whole life, and I end up diabetic. I didn't "do" anything to cause it and I get stuck with it. I think I get most frustrated when people say "but you're so healthy, how'd you get diabetes". The general population doesn't understand that there are differences in t1 and t2, nor do they realize that even adults can develop "juvenile diabetes". I was 29 when I was diagnosed.
With only something like 1% of the population being t1, I don't expect anyone but a t1 or their family to really understand what my family and I go through a day.
When I get agitated at t2 postings is when it's something whining about "having to get back on my diet again" or "now I have to take a pill once a day". I mean, I'd take a diet or daily pill over 6+ injections a day and countless sugar checks.
I always find myself trying to remember that we are all in this together, and that it sucks regardless if 1 or 2…but I will say I do see her point.

Hangin in
Hangin in 2013-09-19 19:21:53 -0500 Report

I am type 1 and I always get " But how could you be diabetic your not fat!" I am 49 and was diagnosed 2years ago.

silvie mae
silvie mae 2013-09-19 11:26:49 -0500 Report

I was also misdiagnosed type 2.

Hangin in
Hangin in 2013-09-19 20:08:52 -0500 Report

I was 1st diagnosed as a type 2 as well. But as it turned out it was the early stage of type 1. Because diabetes is a progressive disease some times in the early stages of type 1 you can respond well to the treatment of type 2 meds. Until the pancreas continues to produce less insolent and the meds commonly used to treat type 2 are no longer working. And that's when you get the wonderful news that you are really a type 1 and now you must take insulin.

silvie mae
silvie mae 2013-09-20 17:02:39 -0500 Report

Yeah! The pills never worked for me at all. Then when they started me on insulin they were giving me way too much. I finally saw an endo and he diagnosed me with T1.

silvie mae
silvie mae 2013-09-19 11:18:01 -0500 Report

Absolutely not. Each type has it's own unique challenges. Actually, i would think it might be the other way around. Being a type one on insulin we can cover our carbs and correct if need be to keep our sugars down, giving us more freedom to eat a wider variety of foods with less consequence. When you are type 2 taking pills or strictly managing with diet and exercise the challenge seems greater to keep tight control. I think this disease regardless of what type you are is just as difficult and challenging for us all. There is no room for resentment between us we all need to support one another in this fight. The reality is that the food industry has victimized us. I did not realize how unhealthy my diet was until I got diagnosed and began reading labels. I thought I had a pretty healthy diet, I now understand that I did not, i was deceived as many are. The FDA and the Food Industry shares responsibility here. IMHO!! :-)

haoleboy
haoleboy 2013-09-19 11:23:52 -0500 Report

funny you mention that silvie mae … I was just talking to her about favorite Hawaiian foods … I can't eat mine but she still does. Love her to pieces so didn't point that out to her though.

haoleboy
haoleboy 2013-09-19 10:20:36 -0500 Report

I found her attitude odd as both my mother and my maternal grand mother died from complications from diabetes, but then I am just now starting to become aware of (and trying to understand) the emotional aspects of this disease.

silvie mae
silvie mae 2013-09-19 11:36:49 -0500 Report

Well, Perhaps the real issue is she resents that she has diabetes and needs someone to take it out on. She thinks somehow her struggle is more significant, and deserving of compassion. Which I find to be a very self centered and sad perspective. Perhaps she will mature beyond this view.

KG66
KG66 2013-09-19 10:14:19 -0500 Report

I don't resent it. I was diagnosed with type 2 before finding out it was actually type 1. I have many members of my family who have type 2 and we all fight through our own battles.

Hangin in
Hangin in 2013-09-19 20:12:55 -0500 Report

In any event I think one thing we can all agree on is that weather it be type 1 or type 2 (EXCUSE MY FRENCH) they both SUCK!!!!

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