Fasting Spikes

By smdcj Latest Reply 2013-09-20 18:39:26 -0500
Started 2013-09-12 13:52:41 -0500

Hi. I was diagnosed with diabetes in January of this year. My numbers during the day are fine - the doctor wants me lower than 170 and I'm usually around 140 during the day. But my fasting readings are not good. Still under 170 but they should be under 130. Usually they are around 150. Does anyone have experience with this? I've been told to change what I eat before going to bed. So I now eat half a cup of low fat cottage cheese and half a banana. That doesn't seem to be helping any. I'm taking Januvia once a day. Has anyone tried basically just having protein - like almonds - before bed? Has it helped?

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Ms frost
Ms frost 2013-09-20 18:01:24 -0500 Report

Look under the category of Type 1. Although I posted under type1…I am type 2. I am not sure how to list this comment under type 2 since I'm new to the board but I hope my comment will help.

Bekah Nikole
Bekah Nikole 2013-09-16 05:56:13 -0500 Report

I try to eat the same breakfast every morning (a bowl of a whole grain cereal and an apple) which my doc said was a good thing. What I had to figure out for myself was why my numbers would go up at night if I didn't eat anything before bed like I was told to do at the time. Turns out my body needed a snack before bed. Now (after trying different foods) before bed I have fresh peanut butter on a soy flour tortilla. However, I made sure to get just peanut butter, nuts without salt and sugar added. I get it freshly ground from a health food store in town (they use unsalted roasted peanuts) or I use the brand Crazy Richard's because it's just peanuts nothing else!

smdcj 2013-09-16 06:32:26 -0500 Report

Thanks. I'm going to try the protein for a couple of weeks to see if that has any positive results. If not, I'll be trying your suggestion.

smdcj 2013-09-13 07:19:03 -0500 Report

I had 22 almonds last night and my glucose this morning was 148. How much protein do you average before going to bed?

Nick1962 2013-09-13 09:50:38 -0500 Report

I don't really count, but a single chicken leg can be as much as 18g protein and few or no carbs.
22 almonds are only about 6g but also contain 5g carbs.

For me the almonds work great as a short term between meal snack because they have the carbs I need for energy, plus the protein to make those carbs worthwhile. Through my testing I found they last 2-3 hours depending on what else I’ve eaten that day.

Long term, (like overnight) I’ve found that the higher the protein (within reason), and lower the carb, the better the results. At first I used protein shakes before bed, but because of the calories worked my way off them and used basically any meat. I had a “slider” size (2-3 oz.) burger last night without the bun and that was about 20g protein with 2-3g carbs for ketchup and mustard.

As my numbers got better, my need for the night snack got less and less because my fasting numbers came into line also. It didn’t get corrected overnight though, so since you’re only about 9 months into this, you still need to get a diet routine established and followed so your numbers aren’t “roller coastering” as much. Also, talk to your doctor, the Januvia may need adjusting.

smdcj 2013-09-13 09:57:42 -0500 Report

Oh interesting. I think I need to start experimenting. I've talked to my doctor and she is fine with it because overall my numbers are coming down. I'm just not happy with it and want it better. Thanks for the info. Even my nutritionist hadn't suggested this.

Nick1962 2013-09-13 10:34:55 -0500 Report

Just my experience (and a few others here as well). Many nutritionists have to deal with us in a broad sense and the little intricacies like this vary so greatly from person to person that you’d be in their office for hours. Plus it changes with the better (or worse) control you have.
Experimenting is a great way to figure your body out, and if you can afford to test multiple times daily I really recommend it, and it can actually be fun. Being a T2 is actually kind of nice because you won’t mess yourself up too bad trying to find out what a couple pieces of fried chicken do to your blood sugar versus an oven-baked chicken breast.
I learned that tomato sauce alone moderately spikes me, as does pasta. But put the two together and the spike is triple. A recent revelation was that the carbs in the pasta are literally dragging the concentrated sugars in the tomato sauce right into the bloodstream. So a little pasta with pesto is ok, and meatballs with a little marinara is ok, just not in the same meal. You can learn some fascinating stuff about the body when you make yourself a guinea pig.

Nick1962 2013-09-12 15:12:38 -0500 Report

Yes, protein is slower to travel through your system and better covers you during the night. Nuts, beef jerky, a chicken leg, heck even a small slab of leftover meatloaf works for me. My morning number hovers around 86.

smdcj 2013-09-12 14:27:43 -0500 Report

I've noticed that the two times my fasting readings have been better was when I had 6 to 8 g of sugar the night before. Thanks for getting back to me. I'm going to give it a try tonight.

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