Carbs vs. calories ? Which is the most important ?

retired gal
By retired gal Latest Reply 2013-08-13 17:20:36 -0500
Started 2013-08-06 18:40:32 -0500

Hi again folks! I started dieting with my diagnoses 5/24/13 and have type 2. My solution was to start counting calories and lose weight based on a 1200-1400 calorie diet daily.

I have been dieting and watching my foods, trying to eat often, no sweets, sugar, smaller portions, started walking and going up and down my stairs until exhausted daily.
I come due for my 90 day test on the 2oth and starting to worry that maybe I have gone all wrong these last 10 weeks worrying about calories more than carbs .
I have lost 20 lbs. and 5" inches , feel better, exercise daily best I can, Blood sugar is down under 125. Am I wrong or right with what I am doing? Confused ?
Thanks folks for your thoughts in advance .
My weight loss has stopped though ?


24 replies

ShaineDickinson
ShaineDickinson 2013-08-13 17:20:36 -0500 Report

Wow! Low calories! I eat 4-5k a day! Calories are died more important. Low carb is silly. Get good carbs, high protein and fats!

correctionsnurse1
correctionsnurse1 2013-08-11 18:53:32 -0500 Report

The frozen potatoes/hash browns and even bagged fresh have been previously deep fried and flash frozen! Not healthy! Please look at labels carefully. Much healthier to cook your own than take the "easy out". So not mean to sound rude or critical, but a lot of people are choosing convenience over health. Just my opinion…

JessTheMess
JessTheMess 2013-08-08 00:27:51 -0500 Report

Both
Depends on your dietary needs etc. counting carbs is mandatory for blood sugar levels and all that good stuff. Smart choices help out alot with both,

retired gal
retired gal 2013-08-08 06:37:19 -0500 Report

I just woke up to let the dog out and have the "munchies" .
Had a glass of 1% milk and a pc. of lean thin sliced ham and a pc of swiss cheese . Not to caloric , lots of proteins, lo carbs .

I am now running dual columns in my note book . Cal. and carbs as I work through my diet day and totals.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2013-08-07 11:45:51 -0500 Report

Hi congrats on you weight loss. Like Nick, I watch the carbs more than the calories. I have lost about 100 lbs. My doctor put me on a 1200 calorie diet which I immediately lowered to 1000 gives me wiggle room. I have been using the 1000 calories diets for so long I really don't have to count calories. You can go through a phase where you may not lose weight. I lower my calorie intake and the weight loss starts again. Good Luck

Nick1962
Nick1962 2013-08-07 07:56:29 -0500 Report

Congrats on your results so far!
I found that if I watch the carbs, the calories naturally fall into place, so I never counted them. Lost over 100 lbs, so at least for me calorie counting wasn't necessary

retired gal
retired gal 2013-08-07 09:47:54 -0500 Report

Do you eat any so called diabetic desserts ?

Nick1962
Nick1962 2013-08-07 10:12:56 -0500 Report

I was never a sweet eater to begin with, so it was pretty easy for me to give up the few I did eat. I don’t eat “diabetic” or “diet” anything. If I do have the craving for something sweet, like a muffin or “to-die-for” dessert, I usually only eat half or less and that seems to satisfy me.
I am careful about WHEN I eat it though. If I’ve had a meal that I know (through lots of testing) is going to put my numbers in the high range, I’ll wait a couple of hours. A lot of times I end up not eating it anyway.

Scarlet03
Scarlet03 2013-08-07 00:56:04 -0500 Report

First, I applaud you on you're determination in your goal. Since I do insulin, and I'm a type 2 for 13 yrs. It's a little harder for me. Having other issues like a thyroid disease. ANYWAYS, I count carbs, but try to keep it between 30 and 40. The choices I make or break me. I eat much better now than 15yrs ago.

So, it can be a mix of both if you choose a good balance of food items …

retired gal
retired gal 2013-08-07 09:44:36 -0500 Report

I think it is the recipe section on here that confuses me a lot ? They show all these wonderful desserts and other dishes, the calorie counts are often outrageous to me if I was counting calories and the carbs are sometimes high too ?
I don't get it, if they are suppose to be good for us and diabetic approved ?

Scarlet03
Scarlet03 2013-08-07 12:59:42 -0500 Report

If you haven't been to a diabetic class yet. That might be a good idea. I have diverticulosis also so I have to be careful with what I eat and food allergies.

I dont usually go off a diabetic menu. I like a few others here have lost 100 pounds and stayed that way for the last 2 years.

READ LABELS to everything you eat. You'll find that some of your natural ingredients are better for you than anything else. Its going to take ALOT of practise, and you'll get the hang of it. What your doing now is fine. When it comes to deserts. I get the sugarfree stuff. BTW…it doesn't hurt to treat yourself once in a while.

swinaz
swinaz 2013-08-07 00:23:46 -0500 Report

I have also decreased my calories and and watching my carb and sugar intake. I am down to a very minimal amount of sugar but not adding any extra and trying to eat mainly fresh foods. I have been hitting about 1400 calories a day as well. I find that increasing my protein intake keeps me full longer. I really have to work at eating enough of it. I have yet to see the diabetic educator since i was just diagnosed. I will be curious to see what feedback you get if you don't mind sharing. I am down 7 pounds since the 18th. That came off pretty quickly. I feel like that is from all of the soda that I am not drinking now. I cut that out cold turkey and have drastically changed my diet and I am trying to exercise more often. I have also hit a plateau with my weight loss. I wish you luck and keep up the good work.

retired gal
retired gal 2013-08-07 09:47:03 -0500 Report

You may want to read my comment to Scarlet above ? The diabetic diet can be confusing sometimes I think .

I love sweets and stopped them so far, but my yearn is still there, but don't want to bake some of this stuff and regret eating it .

Grandmama16
Grandmama16 2013-08-08 01:13:42 -0500 Report

Hi, couldn't help but jump in here about diets. I've been miserable counting carbs but yesterday I had chips and dips…then a plain dinner of skinless chicken thighs, zucchini and yellow squash bar BQ d with olive oil and then boiled corn on the cob which tasted heavenly. My sugar numbers was only 118 that night. I 've said that a baked potato would topped it off as a meal but would also shoot the sugar up. Tonight we we running around not eating anything. hubby started burger frying with a wild rice a roni, so I added veggies and Thai spice with a little salsa. It wasn't bad and I had only a small bowl…rice jumps the carbs up but it's such an easy meal, like my hamburger stew, spaghetti would be too if the carbs weren't so high…45 per 1/2 cup. Does anyone know if spaghetti squash is much less. The sauce can be made with less carbs with veggies in it. I'd need my popcorn probably after…in case of heartburn, or if that's too many carbs, I'll use tums. :) I long for sweets too but not as much as before, just don't like more than a little a tiny piece. At a Bparty a few days ago. I ate a thin slice of carrot cake…so yummy. Tonight I had a bit of a blueberry crumble…not much crumble…and made a tofu choc pudding, but didn't find the 'Silken'tofu just used reg. May add whipped topping to make it fluffier…or real whipped cream. I use marzipone soft cheese to roll up in thin beef, ham or turkey, with a bit of pickle. It's pretty good. Does anyone know of a really thin bread to use, to add some umpph, besides tortilla which has 14 carbs. I have toast in the AM and that's all normally. I've heard that rye and sourdough have less carbs. How 'bout lower carb potatoes? Well, time to check my sugar. 156. Rats! Gnite all

retired gal
retired gal 2013-08-11 10:05:11 -0500 Report

Talking about rice, I read it is better to eat brown rice that white rice with diabetes.
I have lots of white and Rice A Roni bit bad now for me they say ?
Cooked up the brown rice , didn't care for the flavor much , but OK, but the calories are outlandish . I am trying to lose more weight and eating fish and such with brown rice blows the whole plan at dinner.
3 Tbl. =180 cal. with 33 carbs !!!!

Ric a roni only 13-17 per for carbs.

Waste of money IMHO ?

Grandmama16
Grandmama16 2013-08-11 21:10:04 -0500 Report

Hi…I used to make a good meal out of the Spanish rice a roni with burger browned before cooking the rice in it. I love the fact that it has canned tomatoes. I've also added veggies to it for a one pot meal. I'm so bummed that rice has so many carbs for a side dish. I also do not like brown rice but hubby loves the white. How come native Asians are for the most part, skinny? Can't count our Korean born son as he loves pizza…it was his first word. He is 36 & 6 ft now. He hates veggies, except salad but he
works out so he's lookin good.

retired gal
retired gal 2013-08-09 13:22:54 -0500 Report

It is funny how some dinners aren't bad on BS when you expect the worst .
I was out the other night with friends and had a Reuben and fries with a beer and my BS was not bad at all ?

I think if you splurge once in a while it is OK ?
Some say they blow it once a week. I could live with that .

correctionsnurse1
correctionsnurse1 2013-08-09 12:41:53 -0500 Report

If you like pasta, try Dreamfield as it has only 5 digestible carbs per servings, and the best thing is it does not taste like cardboard, lol. As far as potatoes, I tend to bake them that way I can soak them in water until the water runs clear (it is nasty seeing what you might have eaten) it helps to get some of the starchiness out. For me it seems to work as I have been monitoring BS when eating them.

correctionsnurse1
correctionsnurse1 2013-08-11 11:00:10 -0500 Report

Because I personally like to be able to eat a healthy version of French Fries from time to time. After soaking them, I pat them dry (also, for FF, I leave the skin on), cut them into fries and beat and egg white, add S&P or other seasonings, depending on my mood and bake in a 425 oven for 30 minutes. They are nice and crispy :-)

retired gal
retired gal 2013-08-11 11:20:57 -0500 Report

I agree , good baked versus deep frying as the past. I'm learning new ways to fix my meals versus a lifetime of traditional midwest styles and methods of fry and bake.
Try the frozen cut ones from Ore Ida . Fast, easy and good.

Grandmama16
Grandmama16 2013-08-11 21:50:54 -0500 Report

I think I really blew the carbs today. At a meeting had a tiny bit of baclava but also raw veggies/dip. Then dinner of baked chicken and we soaked potato slices,the long way,Unpeeled they turned out great and crispy, not coating. Not sure if hubby soaked and drained several times. Also had peas which I think medium carbs. Sure hope I lose some weight like you have.

Grandmama16
Grandmama16 2013-08-10 23:05:11 -0500 Report

Have not heard of that brand of pasta. Re: potatoes, do you soak them unpeeled before baking? I'm going to try cutting them in quarters the long way, then soak, then fry in a little oil tomorrow or bake. Thanks for the idea.

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