Darn Phenomenon (DP)

By arcxoxo Latest Reply 2013-05-14 20:07:59 -0500
Started 2013-05-11 19:16:11 -0500

Hi! I have been a type 1 diabetic for 18 yrs now(since I was 9) but aside from going to the dr for my diabetes and managing my life with diabetes(primarily on my own) I haven't really been tuned into the "diabetic community"…until now more. I read an interesting post talking about something called the Darn Phenomenon (DP)…have you guys heard about it? What is it? please explain more …

10 replies

Lizardfan 2013-05-14 12:06:19 -0500 Report

It would happen to me all the time until I learned to have a small balanced snack @ 9pm to prevent that overnight rise in blood sugars. Works like a charm!

Nick1962 2013-05-13 11:13:28 -0500 Report

Dawn effect/phenomenon or “liver dump” happens to everyone, but seems more pronounced in diabetics. Basically it’s your body’s hormonal reaction to low blood sugar levels after going an extended period of time without food (like overnight). Your body thinks it’s not being fed, or going into starvation mode, and the liver dumps glucose into your system to keep it running. With most T2’s as has been mentioned, a night time snack to cover the overnight hours fixes this, and can sometimes only be temporary.

With a T1 however, it may be something called the Somogyi effect or Chronic Somogyi Rebound which is similar, but if I understand it right, is an excess of insulin that creates a hypoglycemic episode which your body rebounds against. Basically the same but the control method is different. Here’s some links:
Talk to your doctor, it may mean adjusting your insulin and/or meds.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2013-05-12 18:18:53 -0500 Report

I think that is caused by Liver Dumps. Eat protein before bed.. this will help with better numbers in the morning.

Roxannescott 2013-05-12 17:27:45 -0500 Report

DAWN phenomenon …when you go to bed with a GOOD Blood sugar and wake up with a 300. Sucks and I don't think anyone knows how or why it happens…just another something to deal with with all the other FUN Diabetic problems…

IronOre 2013-05-11 22:55:45 -0500 Report

Dawn phenonenon was discovered about the same time that Giligan's Island was originally aired on television.
Prior to that time "short" shorts were not seen on television, and guys really feel in love with them when Dawn Wells wore them on the show.
And then came Daisy Dukes.
Just kidding.

sNerTs1 2013-05-11 22:50:32 -0500 Report

Like LoCarb, I think you meant the Dawn Phenomenon. That is someone who wakes up with usually higher than normal BG *blood glucose* levels. I have never experienced that but from what I understand and read, is that people who suffer from the DPs usually try to snack before going to bed and that seems to help level out the BGs in the morning.

Hope this helps. Im not sure what you mean if its not the Dawn Phenomenon. This is just my opinion and what I have learned through reading though. So I hope someone else has more information to help you out. If you go to the search area, you can probably find other discussions about this.

Hugs ~ Cheryl

locarb 2013-05-11 20:00:04 -0500 Report

Dawn phenomenon?

arcxoxo 2013-05-12 18:18:26 -0500 Report

HAA! YES! DAWN…lol…thanks guys! I think I have experienced it randomly…but I feel like sometimes its like I wake up with good blood sugar and can have had not eaten nor taken insulin…and it jus goes up bc I'm awake…weird. …has anyone experienced this? jus curious…another thing that happens to me at random is I'll take my insulin with eating like normal…and randomly get high blood sugar…seemingly like I HaDn'T taken a shot…and I'll have to pretty much take it all over again…insulin I mean

lawgal 2013-05-14 10:49:31 -0500 Report

I have it nearly every morning no matter how I have dealt with my BG the day and night before. If you ever find out how to deal with this DAM phenomenon please let me know.

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