Don't know what to eat

Erunner
By Erunner Latest Reply 2008-12-12 17:08:49 -0600
Started 2008-12-08 23:21:08 -0600

I'm 54 and newly diagnosed with type 2. 15 months ago I weighed 190 and blood sugar was under 100. Since then I gained 40 pounds and my blood sugar went up to 172 and my other reading was 6.3.

The endocrinologist I saw gave me a list of hospitals that educate you about diabetes and gave me much information to read.

I had heard the South Beach Diet was good for Diabetes so I loosely stuck to it and have lost 11 pounds. That may be from simply eliminating all the bad stuff I loved to eat.

I have read some conflicting things on what is good and not good to eat and I am having trouble shopping. I hear yogurt is good but it all has sugar with 14 mg being the lowest.

The South Beach Diet cereal is at the 99 cent store so I bought a bunch but was told it wasn't so good for me.

We just switched insurance and I can't see a dietitian yet who will give me much needed help. I lost a bunch of weight while on Weight Watchers but most of what I ate then doesn't cut it now. I pretty much simply tracked calorie intake.

I'm asking for some basic help until I can get the hang of label reading, good carbs and bad carbs, protein, and so on. Thank you to anyone who might respond. Allan


59 replies

Debe Pendice
Debe Pendice 2008-12-12 05:53:27 -0600 Report

I know what you are going through. As a dialysis pt I was ween off everything I like and enjoed eating. Had my transplant and they said ou can eat what ou want! Yeah right. Well, now 25-30#s heavier and some due my steriods, I can't seem to lose a pound. Now by the end of January, I am going to get on the insulin pump. All new game for me. I'm going to the dietitian to learn carb counting. Yeah thats right Miss Carboholic herself.(LOL) They are putting me to on 1800 calories. Wow I was so shock on how much I could eat. The promise 1 pound a week. I could handle that. I still am so shock on how much I can eat. It is a different story, cause I don't consider this will be a diet but a lifestyle change. I don't want to be on a diet…Debe

Toma
Toma 2008-12-11 16:17:38 -0600 Report

Hi Allan,
Congrats on the 101. Keeping blood glucose well controlled will help avoid the nasty complications that can happen from poorly controlled blood glucose.

You just added another piece to the puzzle. I also have a mental disability to deal with. In my case it is PTSD accrued from a tour in Vietnam as rescue helicopter pilot. (Air Ambulance) The Omega 3 (EPA/DHA) helps me with the depression and other symptoms from PTSD. You may get a side benefit from the DHA in a good Omega 2 fish oil supplement as DHA helps tremendously with depression and brain function. Omega 3 helps with so many things, who knows, it may help with the panic disorder also. At any rate, it will do no harm and will help with the type 2 diabetes. As new studies come out they are finding more and more benefits to Omega 3.

It is worth mentioning that Omega 3 is a family of fatty acids, not just one. The primary Omega 3s are Alpha-linolenic acid, (ALA) Eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) and Docosahexainoic acid (DHA). EPA and DHA we get from fish. ALA we get from vegetable sources, primarily vegetable oils.

The ALA is usually flax oil, borage oil or something similar. I don’t think ALA is as effective as EPA and DHA as healthy adults typically only convert 7-10% of the ALA to EPA and DHA. I recommend in excess of 1000 mg EPA and DHA per day.( that is combined) I take more. The ones I take have 400 mg EPA and 200 mg DHA per capsule so that would be 2 capsules a day to get the 1000 mg. I did not find the Lavasa fish oil that Sparrow mentioned so I have no idea how concentrated it is. In my opinion a good Omega 3 supplement will have a minimum 500 mg of EPA/DHA per capsule. Sparrow is correct; there are many different concentrations and quality omega 3 products on the market. Be careful to get a good one. It should be filtered in some way to remove mercury and other pollutants, it should be concentrated, and it should be produced to pharmaceutical standards. Read the label carefully to make sure it meets or exceeds these guidelines.

It’s ok to post a link to your blog. What is it? I checked it out and see you have done a lot of work on it. Good blog. I think it important to try to help others when we can. That is why I do www.Diabetic-Diet-Secrets.com Want to swap links? Depression and other mental conditions are linked to type 2 diabetes. Sometimes the type 2 diabetes is even caused by the medications used to treat depression. I try to avoid religious and political positions since the focus of my site is type 2 diabetes and it happens in all walks of life. Helping others through our blogs and website also helps us.

2catty
2catty 2008-12-11 16:21:57 -0600 Report

I didn't know fish oil helps with depression. I have been going through alot of depression lately. Might have to give it a try.

Toma
Toma 2008-12-11 16:47:57 -0600 Report

Oct. 18, 2002 — It may sound fishy, but researchers say taking a daily fish-oil supplement may boost the effectiveness — or even replace — antidepressants for treating depression in some people.

In a new study, people who added a daily dose of omega-3 fatty acids to their regular antidepressant treatment had significant improvement in symptoms, including anxiety, sleeping problems, sadness, decreased sexual desire, and suicidal tendencies.

Although there are many effective treatments for depression, most only work in a limited number of patients or have significant side effects that prompt users to stop taking them. That's inspired researchers to look for new ways to treat the mental illness or increase the effectiveness of existing treatments.

More……
http://www.webmd.com/depression/news/20021018...

There are many more references

Erunner
Erunner 2008-12-11 17:24:14 -0600 Report

Toma, Thank you for all of your input. I'd love to exchange links with you… on one condition. :)

I need an informed answer to the following. I have South Beach Living Strawberry Harvest Crunch cereal. It's from the South Beach Diet people. Here's the information.

1 serving = 1 cup. 170 calories 210 calories with one half cup fat free milk Total fat= 1.5 g
Saturated Fat= 0 Trans Fat = 0 Polyunsaturated fat = 0.5grams Monounsaturated Fat= 0.5 grams Cholesterol =0 Sodium= 290mg Potassium= 350mg. Total Carbohydrate= 37g Dietary Fiber= 8g Sugars=9g Other Carbohydrates= 20g Protein= 7g

I will go over and add your link to my blog. I have no issues with you avoiding politics and religion as I avoid politics myself. The thing that is important to me on my blog is I don't allow obtuse folks to post. I see my blog as a bit of a refuge for the hurting and there are tons of other blogs for that to take place.

My blog fills a niche and it is directed to Christians but anyone is welcome as I try to provide a lot of information. to help educate people. If you'd like to maybe e-mail a brief bio I will run an article introducing you and your blog. Or I could pluck information from your blog. Erunner54@gmail.com small

Again, thank you for your help. God bless! Allan

Toma
Toma 2008-12-12 13:05:44 -0600 Report

I assume you are asking about the South Beach and my opinion of it. There were too many red flags for me so I never tried it.

Most of the red flags are in the ingredients list.

Ingredients: WHOLE GRAIN WHEAT, WHEAT BRAN, SUGAR, DEFATTED SOY GRITS, DRIED STRAWBERRIES, WHOLE WHEAT FLOUR, CORN SYRUP, EVAPORATED CANE JUICE, SOY PROTEIN ISOLATE, SALT, CORN FLOUR, WHEAT FLOUR, MALTED BARLEY FLOUR, HIGH OLEIC SUNFLOWER OIL, RICE FLOUR, OAT BRAN, OAT FIBER, NATURAL FLAVOR, SUCRALOSE, REDUCED IRON, ANNATTO EXTRACT (COLOR), ZINC OXIDE (SOURCE OF ZINC), BHT ADDED TO PACKAGING MATERIAL TO PRESERVE PRODUCT FRESHNESS. CONTAINS: WHEAT, SOY.

They have tried to hide the sugar load by calling them different things which all are sugar by different names. (Sugar, Corn Syrup, Evaporated Cane Juice) The corn syrup is probably HFCS but that has too much bad press. Granted the 9 grams of sugar is much lower than many other cereals. The second red flag for me is the flour. When I see flour in the ingredient list I do not buy it. Flour can raise blood glucose faster than some sugars. The third red flag is the sodium. I think it is marginally high. 290 mg sodium for 210 calories. If everything else in the diet had the same ratio of sodium to calories it would be 2761 mg sodium for the day. I shoot fot less than 1500 mg and usually get under that. (American heart Association recommends less than 2500 mg per day for 2000 calories. Then there is the PCF ratio. With the info you supplied the ratio is 14% protein, 78% carbohydrates and 7 % fat. The ratio I use is 20-50-30. The amount of fiber is pretty good but even if you use net carbs for the ration it is still 17-73-8. In other words, mostly carbs and the wrong type of carbs. (Some of the carbs are low glycemic but not enough for my standards.) I would not buy or use this product.

Bear in mind, I have become fairly fanatical about the way I analyze the food I will eat and what I will eat. Instead of the boxed cereals I go for the minimally processed cereals such as RedRiver (mostly cracked whole grains) Bob’s Red Mill “Mighty Tasty Hot Cereal” and similar cracked whole grain cereals. They also do not have any added sodium. To those I add blueberries, almonds, egg white and a non-hydrogenated low saturated fat margarine such as Becel to get my 20-50-30 ratio.

As to your blog. I think you are doing a good thing. We need healing helpful places. There are far too many individuals and companies and even medical entities and churches doing harm in the name of profit or sometimes just from mean spirited attitudes. I applaud you. I feel the same way about type 2 diabetes and the need for unbiased education and peer support so we can make educated choices in our own enlightened self interest.

Erunner
Erunner 2008-12-12 15:35:20 -0600 Report

Toma, Thank you very much. The South Beach Diet has been described to me as one that is very good for people with Diabetes and so I figured their products must be great.

I'm curious if anyone might disagree with Toma? I'm really trying to learn this stuff and I don't mind dissenting opinions.

I have already linked to your blog and I am going to link to other web-sites/blogs that deal with health as I can see how mental health and physical health are inter related.

Anybody want to buy 10 boxes of South Beach cereal! :)

Thanks again and God bless!

Toma
Toma 2008-12-12 16:00:40 -0600 Report

I agree with dissenting opinions. That is how we learn and I have learned a lot from people who disagree with me. If they have better information it will possibly change my opinion. Most of what I have learned about controlling my blood glucose has come from examining as many sides of an a argument as I can find (and there are many)

A suggestion for the cereal if you decide not to eat it or can't find a buyer. Food banks are in dire straits. The South Beach products are probably much better than many other cereals on the market and they can help feed people who have no other options.

I admit that I do have some qualms with donating what I will not eat but some food is better than no food.

2008-12-12 16:56:17 -0600 Report

I have to agree with Toma on the cereal. I read cereal labels very closely and if I can't pronounce an ingredient or there are too many it goes back on the shelf, healthy name or not. Plain and simple works for me. All natural, sometimes organic, the right combination of carbohydrate/fat/protein and we're good to go. I've lost 54 lbs in the last 10 months doing this and my most recent A1C is 5.8 so something is working!! Stick with whole foods!! IMHO (in my humble opinion) lol

*Judy

Anonymous
Anonymous 2008-12-12 17:08:49 -0600 Report

I like Grape Nuts. I sprinkle in yogurt, sometimes oatmeal, on salads. i really like it with some Splenda and skim milk. and before everyone gets upset. I know all about the splenda but it is my choice to use it.

Toma
Toma 2008-12-10 00:25:47 -0600 Report

Hi Erunner,

John Crowley asked me to weigh in on this discussion.

First let me say you are in much better shape than I was when I was diagnosed so getting things under control should be fairly easy.

I have read through the thread and some of the advice is ok but needs to be expanded and some is a bit marginal if not questionable.

The link to the discussion John posted had some pretty good advice phased in ways I had not heard before.

The advice I will offer is based on what helped me get from almost dead to non-diabetic labs. I have maintained A1c of less than 5.6 for more than three years now without the use of meds. I have written a book that can be downloaded from my website as a free PDF. The printed version came off the presses yesterday and will be available from Alliance health in the near future as a premium to those who sign up for their Diabetic supplies service. That will be announced soon.

The basic guidelines in the book are:

Key points of the guidelines:

Accurately determine the actual makeup of everything you eat. Maintaining an optimal diet requires an accurate analysis of daily intakes. Whether your goal is weight-loss, glucose control, high cholesterol or any other diet plan, you will reach your goals much quicker if you know the composition of your meals. The failure of many plans is in their efforts to make it easy. Using the palm of your hand, the size of your fist, a deck of card or many of the other strategies can produce wildly inaccurate results. The only truly accurate method is to weigh and measure everything eaten, and then analyze each component in the diet for its particular nutrient composition. This can be a daunting task if done with pencil, paper and printed databases.

The Diabetic-Diet-Secrets Diet strategy relies on accurate measurements, recording and analysis of food intakes. This requires a food scale and a method of recording and analyzing the food intakes. Prior to the advent of personal computers this would have meant written logs and extensive databases in books. In recent years, research quality food databases have been compiled and made available to the public. The NutriBase Personal Diet software is the software program of choice for the implementation of our dietary strategies. NutriBase has a database of over 34,000+ food entries, 52 popular US restaurants and is capable of tracking up to 88 nutrient values. Weight loss is tied to caloric intake. Maintaining a caloric intake consistent with calorie expenditures is the only method that has the full backing of the medical community.

A PCF ratio of 20-50-30 will work for most type-2 diabetics. PCF Ratio is the amount of calories derived from Protein, Carbohydrates and Fats. All foods are composed of one or more of these three nutrient values. Most foods have all three in their makeup. If the 20-50-30 ratio does not work for a particular diabetic then the carbohydrates should be reduced further but probably not less than 40%. Far more important than the total grams of carbohydrates is the type of carbohydrates. (More on this later) Increasing protein to more than 20-25 percent is unnecessary and undesirable in any case since any amount over 15% will most likely be converted to glucose (even for a bodybuilder), but runs the risk of stressing the kidneys. All carbohydrates should be low glycemic carbohydrates. Many researchers from around the world are showing that different carbohydrates affect blood glucose differently. Low Glycemic carbohydrates raise the blood glucose of a diabetic much slower than high glycemic carbs. The Glycemic Index will be discussed later in this book

Everyone should consume between 20-35 grams of fiber per day. Fiber is a form of carbohydrate that is not absorbed by the human body. Fiber has been shown to aid in maintaining a healthy digestive system, slow the rise in blood glucose, aid in lowering cholesterol and in maintaining a healthy heart. Healthy adults should consume in excess of

1000 mg omega 3 (EPA/DHA) per day. Some guidelines say more. In unhealthy adults the omega 3 consumption may need to be as high as 4000mg per day. Omega 3 (EPA/DHA) comes from fish and seafood. To clarify, Most Omega 3 Capsules come in 1000 mg capsules. That does not mean you are getting 1000 mg of the good stuff. You need to read the label more carefully for the EPA and DHA content. Some 1000 mg capsules contain 400 mg EPA and 200 mg DHA while others contain only 178 mg EPA and 78 mg DHA. Make sure you are getting your money‗s worth. I have seen the lower content capsule sell for as much as $40.00 at the trendy health food stores while I can by the much higher concentration capsule for under $9.00 at discount outlets.

Healthy fats (polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats should make up about 30% or more of a healthy diet. Unhealthy fats (saturated fat, cholesterol, and trans fats) should be severely restricted or eliminated.

Drink lots of water. Water helps our bodies eliminate toxins. Water also helps in flushing the system of excess glucose. Each of these topics will be covered in more detail later in this book. More in-depth information about each of these points can be found in various places on Diabetic_diet-Secrets.com. A goggle search within the site can find all the relevant references to each.

Beyond these guidelines, make most of the food you consume whole foods. These include dark green and brightly colored vegetables, brightly colored fruits and vegetables, whole unprocessed grains, nuts and seeds.

The book is 174 pages in the Free PDF version. All of this is explained in far more detail in the book. Down load the book from my site and I hope it helps you.

Toma Grubb
Nutrition Consultant for Alliance Health
Webmaster
www.Diabetic-Diet-Secrets.com

Pauline B
Pauline B 2008-12-10 01:11:55 -0600 Report

I am going to add my comments to Toma's excellent contribution because I, too, have lost weight (50#), and maintain optimum control 5.5 A1c with little medication. Get a good scale that is easy to clean and allows you to zero after you put a bowl or some food on it. It is going to seem a bother to weigh every food you eat, and write it down, but that is the only way to get a handle on managing one's diet.

Another important component is to EXERCISE. Though I prefer activities that have some sense of productivity, such as gardening, trimming shrubs and then cleaning up the mess, mowing the lawn, shoveling snow (which seldom happens in Seattle but was a daily occurence in Alaska), there are simpler steps one can take to improve their flexibility and cardiac functioning such as walking, pushups against the wall, or getting up to change the TV station rather than using the remote.

Good luck.

LadyDi - 26259Miller
LadyDi - 26259Miller 2008-12-10 08:17:43 -0600 Report

Wonderful information, Toma. I am enjoying your website too. As I've read what you've said about measuring, recording and analyzing food intake, I can't help but wonder how many people have the time or are willing to spend the time and effort involved with doing this. My concern is that diabetics - especially newly diagnosed ones - would be very overwhelmed at the thought of doing this regularly and consistently. I know what you're saying is very true, but is it realistic for everyone with diabetes? I just don't know. I wish I would be that regimented, but I have not so far. I have been able to control my numbers over the years, for which I'm thankful, and I do a good job of doing all I'm supposed to do. I just don't think I could do this day in and day out, however. Just being honest. Thanks so much for all of your input. I hope everyone has visited your website.

Anonymous
Anonymous 2008-12-10 11:18:34 -0600 Report

Lady Di, I agree with you also on the weighing and measuring thing. But I have found over the years you get used to how much a portion size is and how much a piece of chicken should look like. But I think a newly diagnosed person should do it for awhile to get used to seeing the sizes. What I found best for me was eating on a salad plate. 1/2 salad or veggies, 1/4 protein, 1/4 carbs. Helps me the most. If I eat out when my food is brought I ask for a to go box right away and put half in the box for lunch the next day.

Toma
Toma 2008-12-10 13:36:18 -0600 Report

Lady Di I agree with you about it being involved. I have found once you get used to it, it only takes a few extra minutes per meal and is worth it for the health benefits. Like the anonymous response said it is training and when you are used to it we start becoming more aware. Most of us have no idea what a 6 oz portion of fish or chicken really looks like. (or any other food portion for that matter) We got into trouble mostly from bad diets. It takes effort and awareness to retrain ourselves to more healthy eating practices.

Part of the problem with trying to simplify things is the simplistic approaches are usually very ineffective. An example of this is carb counting. It is simple and rather easy to do but I think it is mostly just a feel good exercise. Carb balancing (PCF ratio) is more difficult but also far more effective in getting results. Carb counting as typically presented does not take into account the differences between carbs, usually only focuses on some targeted carbs which doesn’t account for all carbs and does not deal with the unavoidable ratio between carbs, fats and Proteins.

Allen,

There are a couple of things I forgot to mention. One is the concept of anti-inflammatory foods. Type 2 diabetes is one of several chronic diseases that are inflammatory. Reducing or eliminating the inflammatory foods and replacing them with anti-inflammatory foods helps tremendously in reversing the symptoms of not only type 2 diabetes but all of the inflammatory diseases.
In addition to anti inflammatory foods, Vitamin D is great for reducing inflammation. I take 2000 IU (International Units) a day

Headsup
Headsup 2008-12-12 01:02:45 -0600 Report

I did not know that Vit D acted as an inflamatory. I haven't been able to take ANY anti-inflamatory meds..even ibuprofen. I have been taking Citracal Plus. My Chrons has …well I guess the phrase is "went into remission". I also had started on Vit B 12. I wonder if those two things could have helped the chrons and maybe will help the diabetes.

Sparrow - 16557
Sparrow - 16557 2008-12-10 20:07:29 -0600 Report

There is also a prescription fish oil… Lavasa. Regulated by the FDA (which most other fish oils aren't). Much purer than what you buy over the counter.

Erunner
Erunner 2008-12-10 21:45:26 -0600 Report

Toma, Thank you so much for all of your information as well as everyone else.

I thought I might share a little more about myself for what it's worth.

I am on Social Security because of Panic Disorder and Agoraphobia. I haven't worked in five years. One of the meds I take causes me to be VERY lethargic and sleepy. It's a trade off as this medication allows me to move about a bit. Specifically, driving away from my home. I can drive about 15 miles and stay at a location for a time and then come home as the med wears off.

This has made it difficult for me to exercise although yesterday I put ten miles on our exercise bike. Other days like today I sleep a lot. So far I haven't been able to cut the dosage, which isn't that much.

Through the years I have had a desire to reach out to those with a mental illness and I have done that through a blog I operate and have linked to somewhere in my profile.

As I am a Christian and the stigma of mental illness sadly is within many churches, my blog is heavily Christian based. But anyone is welcome as there are good articles and tons of resources. I write articles myself hoping to encourage folks.

I took a random blood test yesterday a with a reading of 135. I had excercised for 40 minutes on the exercise bike and had a bowl of cereal an hour or two prior. This morning upon waking up and before eating my reading was 101.

I'm finding a problem I'm having to deal with is I've done weight watchers before and I was able to do that by tracking points and not being too concerned about what I ate and I need to shake that mindset. Fighting diabetes has shown me things that were great while on WW are bad for me now. Thanks again! God bless!

Anonymous
Anonymous 2008-12-09 10:54:02 -0600 Report

When I was first diagnosed I went to the store and bought everything sugar free and I mean everythng. Then went home and planned a menu for the week. About 2 days later I cheated big time. I was so hungry I knew I was going to eat the furniture. I went soon a dietician that educated me on all I could eat and to throw out all the sugar free stuff. they will actually make you gain weight. How bizarre it that? Anyway my point is that I have learned I can eat almost anything(except sweets) I just control the portion size. As you get more comfortable with your diet and how it affects your blood sugar you will find out what works for you. It is alot of try things and see what works. Some people cannot have honey. I have no problem. One of the best things I have learned on this site is to eat on a salad plate. 1/2 is veggies or salad. 1/4 is lean protein and 1/4 is carbs. Good luck to you.

Erunner
Erunner 2008-12-09 13:09:14 -0600 Report

I have been stressing a bit as I'm not sure how to formulate a diet plan. I will see a dietitian and that should help answer questions for me as well as all of the information here. God bless!

John Crowley
John CrowleyCA 2008-12-09 09:51:25 -0600 Report

Here's a discussion we had a while ago that you may find helpful.

http://www.diabeticconnect.com/discussions/886-basic-diabetic-food-tips

bpgagirl22VAnow
bpgagirl22VAnow 2008-12-09 10:59:32 -0600 Report

John, did you know you can have sweets? I eat 'em all the time and my Hba1c is in the 6.5 range all the time! I don't eat ketchup, way too much sugar, I don't eat mayonaise, I really watch my white flours, breads, rices, cookies, etc. I try to make sure I get enough fiber and vitamins. Make sure you get enough Vitamin C. I take 2000 mg a day for my heart and Osteoarthritis. I have to. My bones are breaking down, I'm losing cartilege and they don't know what's causing it. I can't take the Glucosomine Condroitin things with MSM because that runs up your blood sugars. Be careful with those things! Read all my personal posts about my health and you'll learn some things. I don't panic about my Diab. Even when I go into the hospital, it stresses me out, mine bumps up to 300's and 500's and then when I come home, it's right back down into the 120's 150's again. Take care of yourself. Watch those whites!

John Crowley
John CrowleyCA 2008-12-09 11:04:44 -0600 Report

Sorry if my post sounded like we NEVER allow sweets. That certainly isn't the case. But I was trying to write some general guidelines and I truly believe that not only for diabetics but also for people in general, we'd be a lot healthier if we didn't eat junk food. And it's not only about the sugar. The trans fats, the cholesterol, etc. all are so high in so many of the junk food that's out there. That's all I was trying to say.

LadyDi - 26259Miller
LadyDi - 26259Miller 2008-12-09 11:17:21 -0600 Report

John is right. We're all better off without the sweets, or at least if we only "treat" ourselves on rare occasion. We don't want anyone to think they don't have to watch the sweets - and the carbs.

By the way, I've been taking Glucosamine & Chondroitan for years, and I have had no problem with rising BS levels. I consulted my doctor years ago before beginning it, and he thought it was fine. Since then more and more studies have been done that are really encouraging. In my own case, I've been very fortunate to have good strong bones all along. My 2006 bone density indicated a little bone loss for some reason, but this year it showed great improvement! Keeping on the go and walking a lot helps too, of course. I hope those with osteoporis or arthritis, etc., will speak to their doctors and see if they can take it. It's wonderful, in my opinion.

Erunner
Erunner 2008-12-09 13:07:22 -0600 Report

Thanks for the link. I think if I was allowed I could exist on sweets. It's an Achilles heel. I confess that every few days I have a cookie and maybe once a week a do-nut. Life without sweets scares me! God bless!

Anonymous
Anonymous 2008-12-09 14:26:51 -0600 Report

My doctor and dietician says all things in moderation. If you eat a cookie or donut for a snack. Cut back on the carbs at the next meal. If you deprive yourself for too long. You will end up eating a whole bag of donuts or a whole pie.

LadyDi - 26259Miller
LadyDi - 26259Miller 2008-12-09 17:21:57 -0600 Report

Been there, done that (LOL)! Great advice. I do manage to sneak in a treat every once in a while. Just be sure to do that in moderation when your BS readings are nice and low.

My endocroninlogist recently gave me a prescription for a Novolog pen, a quick acting insulin pen that can be used occasionally when readings are high and/or you know you're getting ready to splurge a little (Christmas parties, etc.). He said that was not a license to go to parties and go crazy, however - that it was only acceptable if someone was holding a gun to my head and making me eat the goodies. I reminded him that this COULD happen (LOL)! In any event, if I find my readings 150 or above prior to a meal, I inject the insulin according the scale he gave me (based on the number, of course). Since he gave me that, I have only used it a couple of times (last month or so), but it's nice to feel you have a little flexibility - especially during the holidays. I'm trying to be good tho!

SkipT
SkipT 2008-12-09 05:58:07 -0600 Report

I am not a yogurt eater, but if you want a good one Dannon makes a low carb yogurt called "Fit and Light" which has only 3 grams of carbs per serving.

Erunner
Erunner 2008-12-09 13:04:55 -0600 Report

Thanks for the yogurt suggestion as I like to eat it. I'll look for it. God bless!

LadyDi - 26259Miller
LadyDi - 26259Miller 2008-12-09 18:44:29 -0600 Report

Since cinnamon seems to help to lower blood sugars, I like to add it to just the plain vanilla or chocolate flavors. Very good. Add a few sprinkles of granola or cereal too, to give it a little crunch. You can buy some yogurts with those added, but not always in the low carb, low sugar ones. We have to be creative.

Anonymous
Anonymous 2008-12-09 18:47:16 -0600 Report

Exactly, you know the saying variety is the spice of life well cinnamon is the spice for diabetics. LOL

2catty
2catty 2008-12-09 19:16:27 -0600 Report

Rats! To bad I hate cinnamon. LOL I just can't stand the stuff. But I wished I liked it now.

Anonymous
Anonymous 2008-12-09 19:35:56 -0600 Report

They have pills. they have them at Wal Mart. Not very expensive. I think they work the same. I just prefer the grinder kind. I use cinnamon candles too. LOL

dyanne
dyanne 2008-12-09 03:55:19 -0600 Report

HI I KNOW FOR ME CARBS IS THE KILLER LIKE PASTA,RICE BREADS IT JUST MAKES YOUR SUGAR GO CRAZY. IF U EAT CARBS TRY TO BALANCE IT OFF WITH PROTEIN THAT SEEMS TO HELP. ALSO EXERCISE IF U CAN. DID U GAIN WEIGHT AFTER GOING ON INSULIN??? I KNOW I DID… GOOD LUCK DYANNE

Erunner
Erunner 2008-12-09 13:03:46 -0600 Report

I am not on insulin and today was my first blood reading and the number was 80. I had South Beach cereal for breakfast with splenda.

I take medication that makes me extremely tired and it is a real chore to be exercising. I nap each day and am pretty listless. I have walked and ridden our stationary bike and it went well. God bless!

Headsup
Headsup 2008-12-09 18:13:20 -0600 Report

I think you may be tired because your Blood Sugar is actually too low. I think it is suppose to be around 100. I feel better when mine is around 135-140. I have a friend that was so messed up, he went to a new doctor and found he was taking too much medication and the wrong kind. Now he is feeling great and lifts his weights again…Rhonda

Headsup
Headsup 2008-12-08 23:52:52 -0600 Report

Hi Erunner! I'm 56 and was diagnosed in 1995. It has taken me until now to get my own plan worked out that seems to be the best for me. I stay off all pasta, potatoes and rice and most all bread. No matter what medications I take these foods just keep making sugar in my body and make me feel bad. Even if my sugar "gets right", I can feel the after effects of eating the wrong things. The best for me is eating lots of protein. It is easy to eat Steak, Chicken, Fish and Dairy to fill up on. I don't get hungry before I should and my blood sugar stays low. I can go to the steak house and have a big steak with steamed vegetables or Chicken with the same. I like to have 2 or 3 eggs for breakfast with sausage or bacon and if I have to have it..1 piece of toast. It's like the Atkins diet I guess. At bedtime I sometimes get hungry and I drink one of the Atkins Vanilla shake drinks. It helps so much. I can even have 2 and it still has only 2 carbs for both. You can even flavor the vanilla with unsweetened kool-aid. Jerky is great and gives me something to chew on to satisfy me. I also like to keep boiled eggs in the frige at times when I am tempted. I just grab them and eat before I can think about it. The protein knocks the hunger and keeps me on track. Like I said this is what is working for me right now. You may have to do something else. My dentist once told me that if I get hungry between meals then I wasn't eating enough protein. He was right! It really works. The only real problem I'm having now is weight gain from the insulin. I'm working on that too. Well I better stop now. This is running too long. Sorry. Hope something I said helps…Rhonda

Erunner
Erunner 2008-12-09 13:01:06 -0600 Report

You eat three eggs and sausage as well as bacon?! Is the bacon and sausage a special type for diabetes? You make this sound very enjoyable and easy. I'm pumped! God bless!

Anonymous
Anonymous 2008-12-09 14:24:01 -0600 Report

I do too. I make 3 egg omelets with all kinds of veggies and meat inside. If I eat sausage or bacon I usually eat the turkey ones.

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Headsup 2008-12-09 18:26:13 -0600 Report

No, it is just regular bacon and sausage. The trick is NO bread. You can have cheese melted on your eggs too. I lost 42 pounds doing this in 6 weeks. I stayed off sweets. I LOVE sweets!!! I could eat a whole dozen doughnuts by myself. But after I was off sweets for 2 weeks or so, I didn't want them anymore. It takes 2 weeks to get some meds out of our system so I guess it may be the same for sugar. I watched a show on tv last week that said regular bacon was just as healthy as turkey bacon. In fact the turkey bacon had more sodium in it. So go figure! We have to just do the best we can…So Eat up…protein that is…Rhonda

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Anonymous 2008-12-09 18:37:46 -0600 Report

Oh I forgot about the cheese. Yes I have it too and salsa. I mainly use the turkey bacon and sausage because of my chloesterol not my diabetes. But yes I have all that and no bread. Sometimes I will make scrambled eggs with veggies and put in a low carb whole wheat tortilla, for dinner.

LadyDi - 26259Miller
LadyDi - 26259Miller 2008-12-08 23:35:01 -0600 Report

Someone in a similar situation (caregiver for her hubby, however) just started a discussion looking for much of what you're looking for. Believe it's call "Diet". I just responded to her inquiry. There are just tons of books (incl. cookbooks) that will be helpful for you - ones targeting diabetics. There are many good sites on line as well, incl. the American Diabetic Association's site. If you haven't already, look at the recips on this site (Diabetic Connect), because there are some great ones there.

I think many people - especially when first diagnosed - just freak out and panic and think they're going to have to make drastic changes in their lives, etc. To some extent and in some cases that may be true. However, more than following a "diet", diabetics just need to eat smart and make sure they're eating the proper amount. In addition, controlling sugars and carbs (some in particular) is a must, as they can wreak havoc on your blood sugar readings. You do better eating 4 or 5 smaller "meals" a day, rather than 2 or 3 times a day, with the larger meal in the evenings before retiring. Exercise is key too and really should be a regular part of life if at all possible.

Good luck with accumulating the info you need. It takes a little time and research and getting used to, but it really is not all that difficult. When you consider the alternatives of not controlling your diabetes, doing without a few things and eating a little less is certainly the choice most of us would make.

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Headsup 2008-12-09 00:03:30 -0600 Report

Hi LadyDi, I couldn't help but chuckle when I read your reply about changing your diet. I live in the south. We always had a pone of cornbread with all our meals and that has been the hardest to leave out of my "diet"!. I love it full of butter to eat with my butterbeans or peas and fried okra with sliced tomatoes. Yum Yum! We have always been able to make a meal without meat if we have cornbread or homemade biscuits! Well now I'm hungry! I better shut up before I slip into the kitchen and cook some fried cornbread for a bedtime snack.Lol! I just joined this site tonight. It feels like home…Rhonda

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LadyDi - 26259Miller 2008-12-09 00:16:48 -0600 Report

Too funny! You're soooo right. Wish I hadn't read this right now before heading for bed. Now I'm going to dream about a big old pan of cornbread! If we work at it, we should be able to sneak in a piece now and then. We really don't have to totally give up all that we love. Well…off to bed. Been on here way too long!

Did you know I'm a GA gal when you wrote this, by the way?! Born in MS, raised in AL - southern through and through. Where are you?

LadyDi - 26259Miller
LadyDi - 26259Miller 2008-12-09 00:27:41 -0600 Report

I have lots of family there, and I lived in Metairie for a number of years. It's hard to be good with all that good old Cajun cooking around!! I miss that!

Erunner
Erunner 2008-12-09 12:58:06 -0600 Report

This means I need to learn to cook! My wife works full time and is trying to prepare crock pot meals but I'm gonna have to learn some recipes that I will enjoy eating. Thank you and God bless!

Avera
Avera 2008-12-08 23:32:05 -0600 Report

Here is a link to a great site. It is the Mayo Clinic site and the section of the "Diabetic Diet." I used it and still do. They have slide shows and tips on how to eat and what to eat. Hope it helps.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/diabetes-die...

Avera

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Headsup 2008-12-09 00:37:53 -0600 Report

Thanks for the site. I checked it out. Looks like it might be a great help…tomorrow…Rhonda

Erunner
Erunner 2008-12-09 12:55:22 -0600 Report

Thanks for the link. I'm setting up a separate folder for all of my diabetes related blogs and websites. God bless!

2catty
2catty 2008-12-08 23:28:20 -0600 Report

I understand where your coming from believe me. If you eat carbs just make sure your getting nutrition from the food. Eat lean meats alot of veggies and some fruit. Try to eat whole grains. If you eat bread and pasta try to make it wheat. There are a lot of recipes on here that are diabetic friendly. Just try to eliminate the bad. It doesn't have to be a total flip on your life. One step at a time. Eat healthy. Make sure you get your exercise in too.

Erunner
Erunner 2008-12-09 12:54:23 -0600 Report

Thank you for those suggestions. I'm really surprised by all the meat that's available to eat. I really need to work on vegetables as I can't stand most of them. My best route will be eating them raw. God bless!

2catty
2catty 2008-12-09 15:49:13 -0600 Report

Yeah see meat is a protein, and has no carbs unless breaded. You can eat meat, just watch desserts and pasta and breads. If you do eat pasta and bread make it whole wheat. The fiber helps. Most of my carbs come from fruit. I eat a lot of green veggies. They don't usually have many carbs at all.