Is This A Losing Battle

Cindy Riley
By Cindy Riley Latest Reply 2011-09-17 11:06:07 -0500
Started 2008-05-23 08:36:27 -0500

Even if you do everything right, such as eating right, exercise, take you medicines ,,and keeping your A1c very low, you still still walk away from the doctors office feeling like you have done something wrong,
Such as I did today, I have brought my A1c from 16 to 5,8 and kept it there for over a year now, plus lost weight, started exercising, ( go for walks every morning,
Wow I am doing great ( so the doctor says ) until today when I was told because of my family history now I have to go on a different medicine because , even thought I do not eat sweets, I do not eat meats, I eat right, according to the doctor, fresh veggies, fresh fruits, lots of salads, , very little fish, lots of vitamins , walks, lots of water, some dairy,, ( I know I need more protein) but with all of this in mind now he tells me , my triglycerides are way to high, now they are coming up to over 300 ,, now what,, more meds, I want to get off all this stuff, I am not sure what I am doing wrong here, , even my cholesterol(good one) is in great shape, its 2 points above normal ,, and my bad is 10 pints above normal,, or where it should be at,,
So tell me doing every thing right, is it worth it even if things come back bad news, ????
How are you supposed to come away happy with your life if you keep getting bad news, or how do you keep your spirits up with always having to be put on some kind of medicines . he wants me to take something to help with my triglycerides,, but after I checked this will either mess up my liver or my sugars , witch I have WORK SO HARD TO KEEP DOWN,,
What do you do,, give up,, keep trying to win a losing battle,, what,,??,, I have not yet been put on this medicines because I told him I wanted to think about this,
There has to be something better this this..
Any and All Help is greatly appreciated.

79 replies

rayvera 2011-09-17 11:06:07 -0500 Report

Is This A Losing Battle, you are correct. Type 2 since 1997, and after spending over $100,000 on meds, still no control. Not sure how much time I got left, but I know it could be worst and cost a lot more. Use to owe $0 on the house and credit cards, but now $90,000 on the house and $25,000 on the cards. Even got cheated on the GAP (donut hole) was to be 50% covered by the drug company but Dec 2010, U500 insulin cost $420 a month and Jan 2011 they increased the cost to $780 so my share was to be $210 rose to $395. No matter, will probably loose it all in the next few years, but I tell my parents, my sister, and my brother that I'm glad I have it bad enough to cover everyone, they are all doing well but I am trapped like a rat in my own home, due to blackouts. To me, it's better this way than everyone being sick and going broke. I'm waiting for that day to come when I don't have to wake up, because hanging around and not working, since 2001, is no way to live.

bahelp 2010-08-15 09:49:22 -0500 Report

My sweety Cindy, I never knew you needed me, and lately it has been all about me sweety, I am so sorry, I want to help you in any way…JUST REMEMBER SWEETY, YOUR A ANGEL, SOON ON MY WEB SITE…YOU ARE AT THE TOP…AND get repaired to handle suggestions and help to others with diabetes, YOU GOT IT MY FRIEND TO GO WITH IT AND make anything happen. I am going to stand by you because everyone needs someone like you. YOU PUT ME UP, THANKS FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART.

Goddess 2008-10-08 22:37:16 -0500 Report

I've had dibetes for 25 years. I don't really believe that it has ever been under or ever will be.

Bluebutterfly 2008-10-08 22:20:07 -0500 Report

I started off with 2 pills per day and now I am up to 20 different meds. I take 7 pills for diabetes
4 for blood pressure
1 for neuropathy
1 water pill
1 cholesterol pill
2 pill for tri glicerides
1 thyroid pill
2 pills for gout
1 water pill
i am ready to get off some meds. I don't know where it will end. How many more pills do I need? I also feel like it is a losing battle.But we keep trying to get it right.

Debe Pendice
Debe Pendice 2008-10-08 23:07:04 -0500 Report

You know I take alot of pills too. I know I'll always be on my transplant drugs. I'm seeing what I can do to get off a few of my others. I use to take pills for gout got that under control and off them.. try to work on something your Md thinks you can get off with management. It is hard cause stress is a culprit of many of my problems. I am trying to manage my stress. I got to the transplant clinic on the 29th and want to get off some of these pills. I hope for the goal of 1 and I know I will have to work hard to accomplish it. But I'm going to give it a try. Keep in touch…

Charish 2008-10-08 14:40:11 -0500 Report

Hello Cindy,

Well I read this post and my first thought was that the battle is not yours. I don't always think of things in the spiritual and not always the natural. Our strength comes as given to us and the fight that you have to have here is to know that you can't give up on wanting to control this disease and not allow it to control you.

Cindy don't give up because things go south on occasion because there will always be days that will test you and cause you to want to stop what you are doing, that is when you dig in your heels and want to gain more ground. We can't stop seeing clearly the goal in this.

Keep on doing what you are doing and know that you are not doing this for nothing, but it's for your life and being with all those who love you.

Hugs and Kisses


NamVet - 21894
NamVet - 21894 2008-10-06 14:50:59 -0500 Report

I am doing all that you, except I am true Vegetarian. No meat, fish, chicken anything. I brought my Trigl. from 100 190. I will have them lower by Dec. I am sure. I have lost 53#, and kept off for 2 years. I became vegetarian soon be 3 years. All my numbers are pretty good. A1c is 5.4, Choleterol 138!
I have had 3 surgery's, a Silent Diabetic Heart Attack this year. I walk 70 minutes a day, 7 days a week. I walk over 10,000 steps a day doing that.
Doing my best! But with Diabetes you never really know!!
I have been for 40 years a Diabetic.
So I tell you, Just Do Your Best!!!!!

2008-10-08 06:44:21 -0500 Report

No matter what the illness, and the maintenace for it, you do your best; if you mess up one day you try to do better the next. We are all human, and we all get down. Like John said "Hold you Head Up" be proud for what you have accomplished.

Ani 2008-08-20 05:55:58 -0500 Report

I think I understand you problem I to want to get better and not have to take any medication. You don't want to rely on meds. I sometimes wonder if I ever will get off the medication.
There is abook I read about herbs and am considering swiching to them. I dont remember the title so when i get home I will look for it and send you the title so you could check if you want to try them. I hope the book would do you some good.

Ginetteb 2008-08-20 09:03:53 -0500 Report

I, like all of you, take a truck load of medicine every day. I sometimes feel like flushing them all in the sink, and then I get to thinking, years ago, they did not have all this drug to treat all those diseases, and they did die at a very early age. So the drugs must be doing something positive. So I'll keep taking them and not think of how many I take. I just prepare them once a week and then I just take everyday's handful with water and I don't ponder on it. It's my way of coping with it.

Debe Pendice
Debe Pendice 2008-08-19 00:21:44 -0500 Report

and still have a new barrier to conquer. Just when I thinks I can't do it, somehow ,someway I get through it. Keep you spirits upcindy, So many times I wanted to give up. Every time I went to my doctor I never thought I get good news. But I'M
STILL LIVING. I thank God everyday. Believe me. God and I have had tough discussions. Not ony diabetic, kidney failure, dialysis and a transplant I could walk in the doctors office tommorow

Robert C. H.
Robert C. H. 2008-08-18 14:56:50 -0500 Report

I went to my Dr. today, so proud of myself,armed with all this information which meds had what side effect etc, and asked my Dr. is it really necessary for me to be on 13[thirteen prescriptions]a dayand 2 over the counter Multi Vit. and Vit D and the smile came right off my face. He said said with all of your differn;t ailments it is essential that you keep taking everyone of the meds prescribed,Then I ask if I am trying to lose weight,eating right, I have always had problems with portion size. exercising walk 3 miles each day in a hilly areaBut each of my tests always come back short of my goals.I to get very discouraged, as I have to force myself to walk, no energyThen I read all these articles about side effects which I can relate too. but yet they tell me that all the meds I take are ok to take together Yet I feel like hell and they say keep plugging along. Why?

tmana 2008-08-19 04:54:51 -0500 Report

Talk to your pharmacist and ask what the various interactions between all those drugs might be. It's possible that one drug or combination of drugs is causing another medical issue. Find the rogue drug/combination and you may be able to drop one or more other drugs. Then again, they may all be necessary.

noel7 2008-07-27 23:16:56 -0500 Report

Cindy i`m impress with your A1C,how you manage to keep it down.But we are diabetic2,which means from time to time we need to take medication.Do some research on herbs,tea and home remedy.In my eye`s your a winner in this battle of diabete.Some of us is hard to keep A1C in your range.

DonnaAnn 2008-07-27 11:13:31 -0500 Report

take a look at other medications,vitamins, or herbs you are taking. many of them interfer with your diabetes meds. and also,can affect your levels. make a list of EVERYTHING you are taking and bring it to your doctor or pharmasist and see if anything could be interferring with something. good luck.

teri - 18753
teri - 18753 2008-07-05 14:52:34 -0500 Report

Iam insulin dependent, I hate it, it does feel like a loosing battle.

Elfin 2008-07-08 05:03:36 -0500 Report

If it will make you feel more optimistic, I have a friend, now in his 80s who has been insulin dependent for about 25 years…his eyesight it good, he has all his extemities, and he is very active. So it isn't necessarily a loosing battle. Keep on your diet, exercise and use the insulin! No guarantees, but lots of hope! Elfin

Magdalynn 2008-07-12 14:12:35 -0500 Report

I've read some of the comments you recd. and it's good advise. Your Diabetes is as unique as you are.Your body doesn't react the same way as anybody else. Thank God we're unique. The doctors are going by population perameters in a book where by the average number of Diabetics should act this way. Sometimes for reasons that are not quite understood our bodys just don't do what we think it should. The Doctor has your best intentions in mind but sometimes it feels as if he is scolding us.Thats when it feels like a loosing battle. Your Diabetes can be a gift as strange as that sounds. You are learning more about your body than I'll bet you ever thought you would.What an incredible thing ,this body of ours, and now your getting a very intimate look at it. WOW! I'm an RN with Type 1 for over 25 years.It has given me so much empathy.

rj 2008-07-04 04:54:33 -0500 Report

I know what you mean about the battle…I have type 2 and because of denial for a while am headed for type 1. I have been doing good…and then the doc tells me I have hemochromatosis..a disease that causes your body to absorb too much iron. I have been in a pity party for a while…you know what this is my first day on this website and i feel better than I have in a while..not only have I gotten some great info…I feel like I got some good friends to gain that truly understand how big of a life change is needed just to survive. I want to thank all of you hope get to know everyone of you…Cindy hang in there sorry for yapping too much… not much we can do about the battle we simply have to fight, but there's strength in numbers so I feel like we can glean some helpful info and encouragement from these commrades in this web community…OK OK I'll shut up now :)

Cindy Riley
Cindy Riley 2008-07-04 17:36:53 -0500 Report

Hi rj nice to meet you
You are so right about this site , my first day on here sure help me so much.
Everyone on here are such wonderful people and everyone of these friends have so much great information to share,
I found out if you have anything you feel like talking about you can count on your friends on this site to share with you.
so please dont think you are talking to much, lol.
great to have you as a friend, I look forward to talking much more with you and sharing story along with information,I know this does feel like a losing battle alot of the time, and some times its hard to keep your chin up , but having all my friends on here sure does help so much,
You have a great night, and Happy 4th,

Elfin 2008-07-05 14:29:51 -0500 Report

Wow! Cindy what heart felt responses from all these folks. Diabetoc Connection is one gigantic support group…groups like this are the best way to discuss things that are bugging you. :) I am a facilitator with a grief sharing ministry and see how much benefit we all get from grief sharing, listening and learning. God bless all who ask questions and who answer from their own experiences. Wow! again!

Cindy Riley
Cindy Riley 2008-07-08 10:20:40 -0500 Report

Thank you I know this site has the best group of people on here and once I found this site it sure has made such a difference in my life, I sure do feel like my friends are ones that are hard to come by, I bet you see so many people every day , and hear so many different kinds of story's,., so when you say we have great advice on this site that means so much thank you, I feel the same way.
thanks again, Cindy

Cindy Riley
Cindy Riley 2008-07-02 05:59:07 -0500 Report

Hi Hedi

well I went to the doctor again and they wanted to put me on more pills again, and I just flat said no,no more pills, so I am trying spices, and other things out, I went on this liquid Vitamin, it has 0 calories, 0 carbs, 0 sugar, this has Multi-Vitamin & Mineral (10 in one ), helps with stress, Immune Enhancer, energy( wow big help being a diabetic) Bone & Joints, Cardiovascular, even memory Enhancer, LOL and I need this big time, but I like it because its liquid, easy to take, any ways, I also started taking more spices, using my own, like cinnamon, Ginger, Basil, and others, but my point is, The doctor was trying to put me on more things and I said no, and went this way, I am doing great feeling great, I am walking every day, and when they had me on all the meds, I was told not to take Vitamins with these meds, they dont mix well together, and I was starting to get where I did not want to go for my walks any more, , I did not want to end up like I was, so I stopped the doctors from giving me more, and started using these ideas, and now I have so much energy, and feel fantastic, so when I went back this last month, and they did my blood test, my A1c was 5.3 my reads were great and my triglycerides are down now , not where the doctor wants them,, but down, so something I am doing must be right, and although I appreciate the doctors trying to help me, I think I am doing just fine, at least my levels are way down from when I first found out I was a Diabetic in 97 , my triglycerides were peaking almost 600 then and my sugar levels were up over, 400 , my A1c was 16 , yes with these levels I was in the hospital, that when I found out, I was a Diabetic, so thats why after writing this when i came back from the doctor and had so many friends on here helping feel better, I do feel better, and I am going to keep doing what I am doing now, I know it can not be all wrong with my test are showing can not be all that bad, so just keep doing what you are doing, you are on the right track, you don't need to feel like you always doing something wrong because your not, keep the faith in your self, as I had lost mine until all my friends on here, gave ti back to me, chin up, Your doing great.

Elfin 2008-07-02 12:38:10 -0500 Report

Hi. You have gotten so much advice, I am not sure I can add much except kudos for what you have already done. Yeah Cindy!!!
A couple of ideas you might consider, one is a journal in which you track not only what you eat and your "numbers" but notes about your day and your feelings. Lots of time, this will reveal changes needed. Type II can be a roller coaster physically and mentally. So hang in there, knowing you are not so different, but are a member of a fast growing group. Secondly, I donate platellets at the blood center every three to four weeks. I have to keep my iron (hematacrit) at or above 38. I was having a hard time, because like you I don't eat much red meat. The blood center suggested several things…not spinach…but watermelon. Also most multivitamins for adults contain less iron and of a type that the body seems to reject, so now I take a Flintstone (for kids) every day. My iron runs around 38 which is reat for donating but higher than what is normally considered OK about 35. I like the gummi kind rather than the tablets which a little gritty.
Frankly I find some of the old remedies more effective than some meds. Statins get your cholesterol down quickly, but come with awful side effects so avoid them if you can!
Keep on keeping on. Remember only you can manage your diabetes, so make sure you take control over the amount and types of medications you take.

John Crowley
John CrowleyCA 2008-07-10 03:23:35 -0500 Report

Cindy and all who have contributed so much to this discussion,

I have to say this has been great and there have been a lot of great ideas shared. I only feel like I need to weigh in on one point in this post.

Please be so careful when saying "no" to a doctor's advice. I know doctors aren't perfect. And yes, you should have a say in your treatments. But please stay moderate in your approach to using spices and herbs vs. medicines.

Certainly there are some benefits from spices and herbs. But there are also benefits from medications too.

My father-in-law was a physician. He had more than one patient die because they had learned about a miracle herbal remedy and they stopped taking the medications that were keeping them alive.

So, please weigh carefully all of your health decisions. Don't make any rash decisions without careful consideration of all the information. And please don't ever stop taking a medication without fully understanding the consequences of doing so.

tmana 2008-07-10 05:17:02 -0500 Report

There are multiple issues involved where pharmaceutical therapy is concerned. We do not have full information of the long-term effects of maintenance megadoses of herbs — or of the pharmaceuticals that have largely replaced them.

It is important to have a doctor who is willing to work with you towards *your* goals for therapy — "I don't want any pharmaceuticals" *is* an appropriate goal in many cases. If it is not, you and your doctor need to come to an understanding why. Many times a trial by lifestyle management *is* appropriate, as long as there are defined therapeutic goals and an endpoint for reaching them (e.g., "We'll go the fish oil and diet route for three months; if your LDL and triglycerides have not come down to under 150 and under 200 in that time, we will need to add medication. If they are trending down, we'll check at six months. If they are not under 100 and 150, we may need to make some changes — one of which may be adding medication.") OTOH, there are times where trial by lifestyle management is *not* appropriate (e.g., c-peptide test shows no beta-cell activity) and immediate pharmaceutical intervention is required.

The initial issue appeared to be one of a physician overeager to prescribe pharmaceuticals where the issue might be more healthfully resolved by lifestyle management.

Heidi - 18505
Heidi - 18505 2008-07-02 04:59:25 -0500 Report

I thought I was the only one that felt this way…Every time I go to the dr. she puts me on something else..the newest one is a cholesterol pill — so now I'm up to 5 pills a day - but I am an extremely healthy person - so the dr. says. She says that none of my body is being affected by the diabetes..Well is that because I am taking the pills, or is it the diet and exercise…or all three…

teddy bear - 17161
teddy bear - 17161 2008-06-28 23:31:03 -0500 Report

do not despair as it will only to serve you an injustice especially for all the strides you have made already
look at it as just another curveball life is throwing at you
your doctor should realize that his treatment should include not only the physical aspect but he should also be treating your mental health as well
and support for your accomplishments to this point would go a long way
we diabetics are a mentally fragile crew
we need positive reinforcement constantly
at least i do
truly it is a nasty disease as if you let it - it will kill you - it makes you feel as if you have no control
the reality is we do have more control especially in type 2 then we believe
you have done great things for yourself, keep up the good work and don't let the doctor's disposition hurt your effort
find a positive one if that's the case

my triglicerides spiked for a while
my cholesterol was slightly elevated and i had fatty deposits on my liver
i started drinking goji juice just
4 oz / day and by my next blood test these items all improved
my A1c also dropped 2 percentage points from 9.1 to 7.1
not saying it is some kind of miracle juice but the proof is in the pudding
the only change in my diet was the goji, in fact i was "bad" a few more times than i should have.

Cindy Riley
Cindy Riley 2008-07-01 08:29:58 -0500 Report

Thank you Teddy Bear

You are so right , we all need to stay positive ,it sure does help. and having a doctor that does not look at all the good a diabetic has done to improve them self , makes it so much harder to deal,
I have never heard of this juice you were talking about, but sounds like some good stuff,
Thank you again, I really like this site so much every one on here is so very helpful.
Thanks again,

Ella Adams
Ella Adams 2008-06-28 12:39:00 -0500 Report

It sounds as if you are in a no win situation, welcome to the club.I have been in a simular situation. I was diagnoised with lung cancer in September and since I have had to go on insulin and oxygen. It seems the harder you try to keep up with Diabetes the worse you get, with all the crazy numbers after working so hard to keep them half way normal.I think the cancer is not as mind boggling as diabetes.My A1c is 6.1 and I am still on insulin—go figure that one !!! Good luck in getting yours straightened out.
Ella Adams

AngelaMoore 2008-06-19 05:23:25 -0500 Report

It's been awhile since you posted this, but I truly hope you are doing better. I know it's hard and I've seen many people think about giving up. I'm not even going to pretend that I know what you are going through as I do not have diabetes. I hope you are doing well and that things are looking up for you!

Maria - 13957
Maria - 13957 2008-06-16 15:47:13 -0500 Report

I have been diabetic for 20 years; Type 2; finally under control and all other things under control. Still the doctors want to add more meds. Well I have decided to take control! I read everything I can about diabetes and feel I know almost as much as my doctor does; the exception is I don't have the Drug Reps visiting me once a month! At this stage, I have decided that after my next labs, I will stop taking all meds except my insulin; then after 3 months and another set of labs, I will go from there. I figure it is my life and I have to have some control. I know this does really help you; but, research and read everything you can and then take control.

seawolf1944 2008-06-17 11:32:11 -0500 Report

I have been reading several comments in this forum over the last several days cocerning the subject: Is this a loseing battle? My answer is: Only if,You want to be the loser and allow Diabetes to be the winner. As in any battle whether,It be a patient that is battling a major illness or if,You are in a branch of the military,fighting on a battle field. You primary objective is to fight the enemy, useing whatever methods that are available to you in order to survive,which enables you to enjoy the very best life style possbile. This results in the best life syle for you personally,which allows you to spend a longer life with you family and love ones. When, You start letting the testing of your blood sugar,takeing your meds and letting depression start controling your life then,You are opening the door in allowing Diabetes to have total control over your life. I test my blood sugar at least once per day,some times twice per day. I take my med every day. Im on a diet. I have lost 28 lbs, in two and one half months. I feel better, plus according to my doctor, my blood sugar count is now where,it should be. I set a firm time table concerning my meals and my meds. I take my meds the same time morning and evening. I take my meds thirty minutes before my morning and evening meals. Originally,I was checking my blood sugar level before eating my morning meal. Im a type 2 Diabetic. This week, I started checking my blood sugar two hours after my morning meal. This allows the meds to be in my system,my food after two hours is alreay being absorbed into my system.Therefoe,I personally speaking, am able to obtain a better blood sugar reading. As a type 1 or type 2 diabetic,other people may have a different medical situation. My way of doing things might not work for you in your situation. Therefore,Its very important that,You assemble a Diabetic support group. This should consist of your doctor,a diabetic counsler and a reliable family member. If,You don't feel comfortable or if,You have questions about a diabetic med,You have a right to a second medical opinion. Just don't wait a long time for the second opinion.If,You are over weight. Your doctor and diabetic counsler should work closely together to set up a diet and excercise program. This should allow you to lose the appropriate amount of weight,This in conjuntion with the proper meds should pretty well get and keep your diabetes in plenty of fruits and vegetables. There are also different types of testing equipment which should allow more comfortable testing for you. Also try to keep your skin free from cuts,tear's and bruises. Until the next time, My prayers are with each and every diabetic every day in your battle with a very sreious disease.

shane - 17165
shane - 17165 2008-06-18 07:33:06 -0500 Report

My blood level would sky rocket after meals and my actos, glibizide, and long term insulin would not control it.

They just put me on Novolog insulin taken each time at meals, units are taken per carbs eaten and my blood level is great.

I wish they have put me on this years ago.

Novolog is a fast acting insulin, its great. I feel so much better.

Ginetteb 2008-06-19 02:38:40 -0500 Report

Everything you said is very true and in a perfect world it would be wonderful. However, I know that as for myself, I am strong most of the time and then there are those occasions where I am totally devastated. I lived most of my life in good health and most of my life exercise was like breathing, it was there although I never noticed it. Where I lived we did not have a car so I walked a lot, I rode my bike a lot, I chased children a lot, etc…etc…
Today, my children are grown up, I don't have to chase them anymore. I moved to the States and where public transportation is next to non-existant. I took off my winter coat to put on a car. I gained weight, a lot of weight. By the time I realized what was going on, there I was right in the middle of this disease. Diabetes is not a stranger to my family, so I never considered it a dangerous thing. It was just a way of living. When I was diagnosed with diabetes, I was very nonchalant about it. I have started to respect the disease and take it seriously recently, when the neurophathy is giving me a lot of grief. You see, although my Mother, My Father, my Grandmother, My 2 brothers, my cousin suffer/ed with diabetes, none of them had neurophathy. This is a new addition. I never knew that neurophathy was painful, I always thought it was only pins and needles in your extremities. Well I am learning a whole different tune. So, most of the time I do not let the disease win, I fight it with medicine and regiment, but there are days, like yesterday and today, where I am extremely depressed. I look at TV and see old people walk, dance and have a good time. I used to love to dance, (my husband is a very good dancer) but now because of my lumbar stenosis, I can't even walk or stand for any period of time, never mind dance. So yes, I do get depressed. Hopefully, maybe tomorrow will be a better day. Ginette

Cindy Riley
Cindy Riley 2008-07-02 06:23:01 -0500 Report

I know how you feel really I do, I also suffer with neurophathy
it started out feeling like pins and needles in my extremities, then got worse, I was sent to a pain Doctor and was given a shot, it helped me so much, I still have neurophathy but I am able to keep going for my walks now, and yes Depression can get bad, trust me I know, so having all my friends on here, helping me out , keeping in touch with every one, really helps me out so much, I really love this site I know I am not alone and neither are you we are all here for you as well, keep your faith,, we can all pray for each other on here, and chatting with one another about how we all feel makes us all much stronger people.

doris2 2008-06-16 09:36:55 -0500 Report

Iread about a diabetes cocktail.; I do noy know if you csn afford it, but look into it anyway. Do not just give up, Look into other soirces, other specialists.

MaryC - 17518
MaryC - 17518 2008-06-16 05:54:02 -0500 Report

You got to think that regardless what the doctor says that you are doing well. Ask him or her what you can do besides taking more meds. After a while you feel like a pill popper. Think positive and feel good with the accomplishments you already made. You should feel good. GOOD LUCK!

terrirn143 2008-06-15 02:02:49 -0500 Report


Although I am a newly diagnosed (April 10, 2008) Type II diabetic, I have cared for many diabetics over the last 18 years. I have seen the frustration and discouragement of many but I have also seen a myriad of other health problems.

Pat yourself on the back because you ARE doing a good job if your A1C is down. As for the lack of protein in your diet due to not eating meat, what about doctor approved protein supplements such as those used by bariatric programs? These are easier to digest than meat and I, for one, do not care to have meat in my diet either unless it is fish.

Ask your doctor to refer you to a nutritionist who specializes in diabetic nutrition education.

As for the triglycerides being up, my dear BF was just dignosed the other day with elevated triglycerides but his doctor told him to use diet to lower his triglycerides. The nutritionist can help you with this issue too.

The important thing is that your triglyceride elevation was caught before it was so severe tht you have additional health problems. Try to focus on the positive even though I know sometimes just one more pill is enough to drive us crazy. I have acid reflux and am on 10 pills a day just for that, one more and I'll scream, so I do hear your frustration.

These are just some ideas that might help you along the way. Best of luck to you.


Magdalynn 2008-06-15 03:57:46 -0500 Report

I know exactly how you feel. I work so hard to keep all my numbers down and every three months ,when I go to the endo, they find something else wrong.I've been fighting this battle for 27 years. I'm a registered nurse so they all assume that I should be a perfect patient and my numbers should be perfect and I should never stray from my meal plan. It's very difficult to be perfect for 27 years. So I do the best I can and when it's my appointed time to go home to heaven all the endos in the world can't do a thing about it. Do the best you can, try to find the joy in life and don't be too hard on yourself

terrirn143 2008-06-15 02:02:33 -0500 Report


Although I am a newly diagnosed (April 10, 2008) Type II diabetic, I have cared for many diabetics over the last 18 years. I have seen the frustration and discouragement of many but I have also seen a myriad of other health problems.

Pat yourself on the back because you ARE doing a good job if your A1C is down. As for the lack of protein in your diet due to not eating meat, what about doctor approved protein supplements such as those used by bariatric programs? These are easier to digest than meat and I, for one, do not care to have meat in my diet either unless it is fish.

Ask your doctor to refer you to a nutritionist who specializes in diabetic nutrition education.

As for the triglycerides being up, my dear BF was just dignosed the other day with elevated triglycerides but his doctor told him to use diet to lower his triglycerides. The nutritionist can help you with this issue to.

The important thing is that your triglyceride elevation was caught before it was so severe tht you have additional health problems. Try to focus on the positive even though I know sometimes just one more pill is enough to drive us crazy. I have acid reflux and am on 10 pills a day just for that, one more and I'll scream, so I do hear your frustration.

These are just some ideas that might help you along the way. Best of luck to you.


Ginetteb 2008-06-16 03:01:41 -0500 Report

I have to find out what triglycerides are, but like you, I suffer from acid reflux. I tried every anti-acid product and only one works, and of course, it's the most expensive. I take Nexium for that. I take it at bedtime and if I miss one night, just one night, I have heartburns from hell for the entire next day. I read somewhere that if acid reflux goes untreated, it can develop into cancer and THAT'S ONE DISEASE I DO NOT WANT.

Linda Simmons
Linda Simmons 2008-06-14 17:21:44 -0500 Report

I hear you! Even though my cholesterol had always been wonderful, shortly after discovering I had diabetes, my numbers slowly started to inch towards the bad. My doc put me on oral meds and it has helped so much.

I also hate taking all these different medications and giving myself shots all the time. The way I look at it is this: I'm here. I'm here for my husband and my children. I want to see my kids grow up. I want to cuddle my grandkids. Taking these meds are part of what I need to stay as healthy as possible.

Diabetes is one of the few diseases that we can play a part of taking care of ourselves. So much of our success and failures depend on our diligence.

So, girl, I say this: Take it one step at a time. Plant one foot at a time on your Life path. You can do it! You are strong and you are not alone. God Bless you!

gleeorum 2008-06-14 14:16:37 -0500 Report

I am a type one for 25 years—5.6 A1C, triglycerides at 46, HDL at 86 and the rest is good as well—with no complications other than a slightly demented personality.

One of the things that has served me well over the years has been strenuous, intense, brief excercise and sufficient protein with a natural foods diet of whole grains, fruits and veggies, some fermented dairy, fish, and grass fed beef(limited), cage free chicken and eggs.

You've done well, but there is always a trade off to make in these decisions that you and your close friends and family.

kdroberts 2008-06-14 10:45:37 -0500 Report

Triglycerides don't just come from fat, actually fat can lower them, but can come from everything you eat and especially carbohydrates. Although I'm not saying you should not eat fruit, too much can be a reason for increased triglycerides. There are several small diet changes you could make that may make a big difference. Increase unsaturated fat intake (mono and poly unsaturated) and watch trans and saturated fats. Eat more protein from lean meat like turkey but especially oily fish. Mackerel, trout, salmon and sardines are very good for that. Nuts are a good source of protein and good fats so maybe look into those, walnuts are very good. One thing that may or may not work for you, eat or add 1 tablespoon of olive oil to your foods every day. Those things may also help your overall cholesterol levels, they did wonders for mine my triglycerides are sitting at 44 right now. Just based on my own experience, eating an extremely low fat diet actually raised all my bad cholesterol numbers and lowered the good ones. Since I started eating a higher fat, lower carbohydrate diet my cholesterol numbers plummeted, although my triglycerides were never very high.

The one comment I would make about your diet is it doesn't appear to be all that balanced. By that I mean carb, protein and fat all in proportion to balance things out and make what you eat work for you.

chuck_les 2008-06-14 10:19:40 -0500 Report

Hi Cindy,

I know what you are going through. I have so many pills for this or that it's unbelieveable. Now I know how my mom felt when she would ask me "did I take my medicene this morning?" I have tried everything I can think of to keep my blood sugar at or close to 100. I was very sick last summer. So sick my wife called my children and told them "if you love your dad, I think you should see him now" After I finally recovered from the simple flu (my immune system isn't very good because I had hepatitus many, many, many moons ago"). I use Humulin R. The worst part of this I think is constantly testing yourself. I'm on a sliding scale. I'm always running out of test strips, so I decided to just give myself 10 units twice a day. Ten units isn't much, but when I tested myself the next day my blood sugar was 51. What is A1c? I never heard of it. Sorry I can't help. I just keep on trying, thats all you can do. By the way you are a very attractive woman. It would be a waste for someone like you to quit. Keep on, keeping on, I'll say a prayer for you. Chuck_les

Leigh Marsden
Leigh Marsden 2008-06-09 13:16:29 -0500 Report

Cindy, Keep up the GREAT work! Stay positive… YOU are worth the fight plus soooo much more. This you will conquer too… Be sure of yourself for yourself and all those that love you… YOU can doooo this. Leigh (lee)

Anonymous 2008-06-09 07:28:10 -0500 Report

You try your best, to get the most out of life, but in the end, we realize that nobody gets out of this life alive. The most that we can do is to forstall the inevitable. And then we die, and it starts all over again somewhen/somewhere else.

Mac Freak
Mac Freak 2008-05-27 06:03:52 -0500 Report

Maybe you should fire your Dr and get one that in more in
tune with complimentary medicine. My Dr. put me on lipitor
to get my cholesterol down( wasn't that high) which was
all right with me until I read about the dangers of taking lipitor. I took myself off of it, and he continued to bug me about it so I found myself a new doctor, one who is more into complementary medicine. He put me on different medicine which works better. There is no easy answer, you have to continue to eat like a monk.

Cindy Riley
Cindy Riley 2008-05-27 05:40:10 -0500 Report

Hi To all my friends on this site, and Thank every one of you
for replying to this subject, I have to say I wrote this when feeling down after coming from the doctors and feeling like there is no hope , but after I see how much advise I was given from such sweet and caring friends on here, I have to say I am feel so much better, and yes I went to the top of the mountain and tost these feeling right off the top,,
Thanks To All Of Your On Here, , Your Are The Best Group Of Friends Any Could Ever Ask For,,
And Thanks For All The Great Advise,, I Was Still Eating Wrong,, Now That I Know I Can Change My Eating Habits Again, I Am On The Right Track Once Again, Thanks To All Of My Wonderful Friends On This Great Site,

Ginacaps 2008-05-27 06:07:52 -0500 Report


I am adding to what everyone said. Don't give up. Never give up. I wish my a1c would get down to 5.8 i have been trying to get it down basically since i was dx'd in 2000 with type1.

I did give up for a while, completely. dont ask how i am still here because i really dont know. But life is worth it, your friends and family are worth it. If you have to take another pill, you take another pill. Live your life the way you are living it. If you have to get a second opinion do it.

You are doing great ! I hope that people tell you what a great job you do of taking care of yourself going from 16- 5.8 is a great accomplishment. And keeping it there for over a year is even greater!

Keep it up

your friend Gina

seawolf1944 2008-05-25 12:06:43 -0500 Report

You are not fighting a loseing battle. There are adjustments that must be made to conbat diabetes. Whether, It be meds or changes in our life style or our eating habits. Im on six different meds for heart disease,high blood pressure and other medical problems, plus metformin(2 x per day). My doctor usually tells me that my chlestrol and triglicrides are a little high. Hoever if, We didn't have meds to control different things, those things combined with diabetes could make our lives miserable or perhaps end it. But with the correct med and determination,We all can live a useful and happy life. If, You feel that the new med is wrong, You can either sit down with your doctor for further discussion or,You are entitled to a second opinion from a diabetic professional. Keep your chin up and your mind clear. You can be a winner. Please have a nice day.

catalinaclair 2008-05-24 10:32:17 -0500 Report

Hi Cindy,

I am new to this group, but I am a registered nurse with type 1 diabetes. I have felt like I'm on a rollercoaster with my lab results good one month, and bad the next. My triglycerides were over 300 too. I started taking hefty doses of Omega 3. I also take Alpha Lipoic Acid and KLB6. I can't take statins because I get horrible muscular aches like the flu, so I decided to do it the natural way. I thought if I ate a lot of fish that it would help, but the Omegas are only found in certain types of seafood, so I opted for the Omega 3 pills. Both the Alpha Lipoic Acid and the KLB6 (Kelp, Lecithin and B6 vitamins in conglomeration, assist to break down fat and redistribute it where it belongs. The Alpha Lipoic Acid is also a wonderful antioxidant. My last triglyceride result was 188. I can't think of anything else that could have brought the level down because this was the only thing different that I did. I used to dance for 15 yrs. My ballet instructor introduced me into taking the KLB6 for that same reason. Although I wasn't much overweight, It helped to tighten up my body and reduce my percentage of body fat. Since I have been on injections of insulin, it is so hard for me to lose weight, so once again I'm back on the vitamins and antioxidants. Maybe it would be worth trying in order to keep you from having to take anymore pills that will be toxic to your liver versus detoxing it. Good luck, Kathleen

Dancehawk 2008-05-24 03:07:48 -0500 Report

Found this in my favorites not sure if it will help but it is worth a read.
The diet to lower triglycerides.
List of foods for a diet to lower triglycerides. Understand the difference of a triglyceride lowering diet and a high triglycerides diet. Why eat certain foods and why avoid others?

The following is what the American Association for Clinical Chemistry has to say about a high triglycerides diet:

"Diets high in carbohydrates, especially sugar, lead to increases in triglycerides."

A diet to lower triglycerides omits alcohol and sugar - as they stimulate triglyceride production. Therefore, you should:

ELIMINATE or LIMIT ALL sugars such as, concentrated sweets, sugar, honey, molasses, jams, jellies, candies, pies, cakes, cookies, candy, doughnuts, ice cream, frozen yogurt, and sweetened gelatine.

Eliminate or limit as much as you can acohol, such as beer, wine, hard liquor, liqueurs as well as other foods, like sweetened cereals, flavored yogurts, and sports or energy bars.

Cut down on red meat, especially fried, changing it to broiled or roasted poultry (turkey, chicken), preferably free-range. Add more dark green leafy vegetables.

Why Sugar and Alcohol is not part of a diet to lower triglycerides?

Both sugar and alcohol (fermented sugar!) are a source of excess calories which are being turned into fat - usually, triglycerides, so the fat levels in your blood go up.

When alcohol (ethanol) is present in the blood, the liver prioritizes removing alcohol from the blood over other metabolic processes.

The liver can detoxify about one ounce of alcohol per hour (equivalent to 12 ounces of beer or 4 ounces of wine). In the meantime, however, glucose tends to be further processed into triglycerides which raises their blood levels.

Please note that after your triglyceride level goes back to normal, you will have to follow a modified sugar and alcohol diet for the rest of your life.

A triglyceride lowering diet.

In your journey to a better health, there are quite a few food types to favour, which would help in your diet to lower triglycerides.

A diet to lower triglycerides - One - Beverages.

Fresh fruit juice (limit to 4 oz. Per day) ; black coffee, plain or herbal teas; soft drinks with sugar substitutes; club soda, preferably salt free; cocoa made with skim mild or non fat dried milk and water (sugar substitute added if desired); clear broth. However, it's best that you drink mainly water.

A diet to lower triglycerides - Two - Meat & Fish.

Among meats, fish is best, especially "safe," or less contaminated, fish such as summer flounder, wild (not: farm-raised!) Pacific salmon, croaker, sardines, haddock, and tilapia.

Choose lean meats (chicken, turkey, veal and nonfatty cuts of beef with excess fat trimmed ; one serving - 3 oz. of cooked meat) Also, fresh or frozen fish, canned shrimp, oysters).

No more than one serving of one of these per week. Shellfish are high in cholesterol but low in saturated fat and should be used sparingly. Meats and fish should be broiled (pan or oven) or baked on a rack.

A diet to lower triglycerides - Three - Vegetables.

Most vegetables are not limited. One dark-green (string beans, escarole) or one deep yellow (squash) vegetable is recommended daily.

Cauliflower, broccoli, and celery, as well as potato skins are recommended for their fiber content. (Fiber is associated with cholesterol reduction).

It is preferable to steam vegetable, but they may be boiled, strained, or braised with unsaturated vegetable oil.

A diet to lower triglycerides - Four - Fruits.

Eat three servings of fresh fruit every day (1 serving - 1/2 cup). Be sure to have at least one citrus fruit daily. Frozen of canned fruit with no sugar or syrup may be taken.

A diet to lower triglycerides - Five - Breads, Grains.

One roll or one slice of whole grain or enriched bread may be taken, or three soda crackers or four pieces of melba toast as a substitute. Spaghetti, rice, or noodles (1/2 cup ) or 1/2 large ear of corn may be taken as a bread substitute.

In preparing these foods do not use butter shortening, use soft margarine. Also use egg and sugar substitutes. Choose high-fiber grains, such as oats and whole wheat.

A diet to lower triglycerides - Six - Fats, Oils.

Use soft magarine: vegetable oils that are high in unsaturated fats (such as sunflower, soybeen, corn and cottonseed). Always refrigerate meat drippings to harden the fat and remove it before preparing gravies.

A diet to lower triglycerides - Seven - Desserts, Snacks.

Limit to two serving every day; substitute each serving for a bread/cereal serving; ice milk, water sherbet (1/4 cup) : unflavored gelatin or gelatin flavored with sugar substitute (1/2 cup); pudding prepared with skim milk (1/2 cup) ; egg white souffle ; unbuttered popcorn (1.1/2 cups).

A diet to lower triglycerides - Eight - Others.

For eggs limit egg yolks to two per week. However, use freely egg substitutes and egg white. You can use dried peas or beans (1 serving - 1/2 cup) as a bread substitute.

Eat nuts such as almonds, walnuts, and peanuts sparingly (1 serving - 1 tablespoon).

Use 1/2 cup of hot cereal or 3/4 cup of cold cereal per day. Add a sugar substitute if desired with fat-free or skim milk.

Always use 99% fat-free or skim milk, dairy products such as low fat cheese (farmer's, uncreamed diet cottage), low fat yogurt, and powdered skim milk.

You may use the following freely; vinegar, spices, herbs, non fat bouilon, mustard, worcestershire sauce, soy sauce, flavoring essences.

Please remember that moderation is the order of the day. All foods should be taken in moderation.

During your diet to lower triglycerides be sure to avoid sweets and to control the amount of carbohydrates you eat (starchy foods such as flour, bread, potatoes).

And best of all is to buy a good low-fat cookbook, such as the one published by the American Heart Association.

In case you want to explore other options to lower triglycerides, click here to learn how to lower triglycerides by 20 percent, without limiting on your diet to lower triglycerides.

The information provided on this site is for informational purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for advice from your physician or other health care professional or any information contained on or in any product label or packaging. The information and claims made in this site have not been evaluated by the United States Food and Drug Administration and are not approved to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent disease.

Ginetteb 2008-05-24 03:55:26 -0500 Report

This to me is a very complicated diet. I can't be bothered to remember all that. I love almost all vegetables and I have lots of them. I also love all fruits and I have lots of them as well. I have eaten so much chicken, I think I can lay an egg. Not that I dislike chicken, I like it and I also like turkey, but how much of it can you eat?
I love beef and I do limit my intake. I also like fish, which I cook and eat at least once a week.

While I do like all these things, I cannot stand margarine on my food. The margarine in the south is full of water and if I put it on my toasts, they get wet. So I use butter, but I try to keep it at 2 tbsp per day. I cook with butter and EVOO and my food tastes better.

I find that if I eat rice for supper, my sugar is lower in the morning than if I eat potatoes.

I suffer from high and low blood sugar. The odd thing is that at times I suffer from both at the same time, example: my blood pressure is let's 150 over 50. Can anyone explain that? I do tend to be anemic although I am obese and I eat my protein, my veggies and my fruits, but my body does not absorb iron for some reasons. I also suffer from leg and feet cramps, so I have started to take diet supplements of potasseum and magnesium. The supplements kind of reduce the pain, but they do not eliminate them yet.

I do understand those who are depressed because I do suffer from depression myself. I smoked for 30 years and quit about 18 years ago. However, I have never been so sick as I have been since I quit.

I find it very difficult to eliminate sweets. Does anyone have a trick to quit wanting something sweet? My cigarette used to do just that, so what do I do now?


tmana 2008-05-24 14:09:38 -0500 Report

Most, if not all, margarines have large quantities of hydrogenated and partially-hydrogenated fats, which are extremely bad for us. EVOO is much, much healthier.

For a while I had an issue with iron-deficiency anemia. We tried treating it by adding additional protein into the diet… without success. I did a little more research and found out the following:
(1) Antacids, H2 inhbitors, and medications to prevent and treat GERD can inhibit iron absorption
(2) Iron is best absorbed when consumed in conjunction with meat, fish, or poultry ("MFP"). It is second-best absorbed when consumed in conjunction with citrus fruits. It is third-best absorbed when consumed in conjunction with 1000 mg ascorbic acid (Vitamin C).
(3) In the absence of MFP, citrus, or Vitamin C, dairy is at best neutral for iron absorption, and soy may inhibit iron absorption.

Elfin 2008-08-09 06:00:46 -0500 Report

Gintte, About your anemia, at the blood center where I donate, the phlebologist told me a couple of things to try and I have been pretty successful. I take…now don't laugh ;-)…Flintstones Vitamins for children chewables…they have iron that seems to help where plain iron tablets don't. Don't use the Gummi style as they don't contain iron. Another thing besides all the dark green veggies is watermelon. OK so you can laugh! ;-D
Can't hurt and might help your anemia.

tmana 2008-05-24 02:29:15 -0500 Report

High triglycerides is one of the key missed commonalities of women who suffer fatal heart attacks. Getting them down is extremely important.

What you might want to look at, diet-wise, is to make sure you are not eating high-fructose corn syrup or trans fats (hydrogenated and partially-hydrogenated oils); you may also wish to add in a fish-oil supplement and/or ground flax seed into your diet.

Bren62W 2008-05-23 16:36:59 -0500 Report


Good Lord Girl! Look at what you've accomplished and what you've overcome. I know there are times when I think there is no way I could take another pill, not even an aspirin for a headache. I have literally lived with a headache for two days because I couldn't bare the thought of putting another pill in my mouth. But then you gotta do what you gotta do. Take the darn aspirin. :)
You are a very strong person to be where you are today. This is a baby step compared to what you have already dealt with. Take all of that frustration to the top of that mountain with you this weekend, and throw it off the side. Come back down lighter and freer and more determined than ever to win your battles. You can do this!! Good Luck!!
Thinking of you,

Dancehawk 2008-05-24 02:34:37 -0500 Report

Hi guys newbie here newbie to diabetic too.
So far since I was dignosed I had a sever reaction to metiphrin (spelling)another trouble of keeping from going into shock from the thyroid med synthroid,Avandia was scarring me because it causes heart problems so doc put me on Byetta.
Then my byetta when they go from 5 to 10 10 sent me into low low numbers could'nt think, heart raced,get really sick to tummy, and sleepy, felt like crud.
Then with juice and tablets got up to 80 then 120 then shot up over 200 finally on the 5 dose again and sitting in 130s :( this was after getting into 117 area :( So I am laughing at myself, hehehe! Im a mess.

So do not give up hun! yeah its a hard road, but all you can do is keep trying.
After all since when has anything in life been a cake walk ( lol)
sometimes I feel like the doctors are having to find things wrong just to give us more pills.
I have been looking into natural things too and do you eat avacodos?
There a great source of the oils we need and they help lower the areas we need lowered.Plus I really feel good when I eat them.
Nuts are a great source plus protien.
they raise the good numbers and lower the bad.
So I was watching this tape last night the guy on there was also saying our bodys are starving.
we eat but we do not get what the body needs the 3 main things were chrominum vit c vit e.
I want to learn more about that area.

plus I use to take cell salts when I live in Washington state, I have not found them here in Loiusiana really trying to get cell salts again.

I have a feeling if we got back on cell salts plus added those vit he was discussing on the tape it might help give our bodys a fighting chance.

Worth a shot.

Yes I get depressed too… we all do.

But you want to know a secret friends are a very important key, they pick you up when your down.
So I know I am new here but I want to offer myself as a ear or a hand when your sad or a laugh or two plus bounce off ideas to help each other.

well guys huggles and Truthfully you all doing good, our bodys change day to day so does our readings and all we can do is keep trying.


Cindy Riley
Cindy Riley 2008-05-27 05:43:34 -0500 Report

Hi Bren,

Thank You, And yes I did tost those bad feeling right off the top of the mountain, LOL I am feeling so good once again because of all the advise I have received on this site and with all the wonderful friends I now have on here, I really love coming to this site every one on here makes you feel so good , Thank You so much, Hope you had a great weekend, I know mine went well, thanks again,

blessed 2008-06-16 01:37:21 -0500 Report

I am so new to this diabetic I call it a thing. Its so hard trying to find all the right foods to eat. No one told me how often
I have to check my blood,so my fingers are raw
from checking so often. lol. I don't know what
the numbers should be. Open heart surgery was
easier than this.

I work in a hospital (food service lol) and
I have seen some of the outcome of what diabetes can do. I am open to all sugestions.

Thanks Joann

butterfly_8 2008-07-26 16:14:47 -0500 Report

Hi Bren, I agree with you 100%.She has done so much already it is wonderful. There is no reason to even think of giving up. If you were kjust grinding your wheels and getting no where it would be different. So hang in there you are already a winner.Keep on keeping on.

JP - 14811
JP - 14811 2008-05-23 14:47:17 -0500 Report

Hi there, I know it's easy to get discouraged. It seems like every time you go to the doctor they say 'oh great' about one thing and 'well we could work on…' doesn't it? I have a family history of high cholesterol and high blood pressure so I have to take meds for that but so far no side effects. I am the one that fluctuates between hypoglycemia and diabetes (for 40+ years) and now they put me on metformin to bring my sugars down again and as my son puts it "I walk on the blade of a knife' on which way it will go.. I had a low episode the other night at the pool 120 when I started swimming and 15 minutes later it was 52 and I was shaking and had to down glucose tablets.. so here we go again.. one extreme to the other. I have to stop the metformin again so we'll see what happens there. Anyway, I'm off on a sidetrack here. My triglycerides and HDL tend to be off kilter and my total and LDL tend to go to low… (wacky body I have here) so now I'm trying Niacin to see if we can jolt it the other way.
Hang in there… make sure you have plenty of happy things in the rest of your life and don't let diabetes or any other condition define you… it's just a part of what you deal with every day and as frustrating as it can be, you are still you… and not a disease… find something to laugh about every day if you can.. it can help ease some of the frustration with this god forsaken disease. I eat right, exercise 5 hours a week, take my meds the way I'm supposed to and it's not always a good picture in the end but it beats the alternative as someone said 'the disease wins' and none of us want that to happen… :)
If you ever want to vent feel free to send it my way, I've got big shoulders.. (from all this darn swimming lol)..
Peace to you!

Cindy Riley
Cindy Riley 2008-05-23 16:16:58 -0500 Report

Thank you so much for all your kind words, I too was on
metformin, for the first two years , but had to come off it, and that is when I started doing so much better, I mean I still
do my insulin , but its still doing great, has been for a while now,
Thank you for every thing you have said, I know I should stay positive but its hard to at times,
I will take your advise for sure about laughing more, , you are so right about the doctors saying we are always needing something else, no matter how hard we work at doing every thing the right way,
As for your sugars dropping like they do, thats scary, hope your not at the pool by your self,,
Thanks a gain JP, for every thing,
God Bless You, please have a safe weekend,

Diana.morgan 2008-05-23 14:06:43 -0500 Report

I know you said that you don't eat meats,but I just wonder if you're including bacon and breakfast sausage as meats. These 2 meats will raise your triglycerides. My doctor put me on 3 fish oil caplets a day and I stopped eating bacon (which is my favorite meat in the world) Also note that both of these meats are pork.

Cindy Riley
Cindy Riley 2008-05-23 15:57:49 -0500 Report

Hi Diana,
I do not eat any pork at all, , but as for breakfast meats,,
I have eaten Turkey Bacon,, with poched eggs, ,and a piece of fruit, ,, coffee,, (black) so does Turkey Bacon contain
lots of fats???

John Crowley
John CrowleyCA 2008-05-23 09:40:23 -0500 Report

Keep your head up. You have much to be happy about. You're exercising, losing weight, have a great A1C, and good cholesterol. You're also eating right.

I'm sure it's a downer to find out there's something new to work on, but the great news is you've proven you can make a difference in your health when you focus on it.

Keep at it. Don't get discouraged.

Cindy Riley
Cindy Riley 2008-05-23 09:54:57 -0500 Report

Thank You John,

I am trying to keep positive about all of this, sometimes it is just hard after all the hard work, then finding out I am still doing something wrong, its like my body does not want to accept all I have been doing and just gives up. So that part makes you feel down about the whole thing,
I know giving up is not the answer but some times you just feel like doing that, I just got so depressed about the news, I am doing research about this medicine he wants to put me on before even thinking about taking it, because no way I want my A1c to go back up again.
Thanks again John

shilolee 2008-05-23 12:08:59 -0500 Report

cindy i think you are doing everything right. a lot of what we deal with we can do things about but some of it is just geneics. that is where the doctors come in. what you need to do is check into the medcation he wants to put you on. just like your food know what your putting into your body. when you do you are always a winner. god bless

jupton1 2008-05-23 08:55:38 -0500 Report

I also think about giving up.Im realy afraid of these meds.My fingers hurt,my toes.,I have even thought about weight loss surgery..Im the only one in my whole family with this,WHY ME?…John

Cindy Riley
Cindy Riley 2008-05-23 10:05:31 -0500 Report

Hi John,
Thanks for your reply,,I know what you mean about just getting rid of all the meds, but I guess after getting really depressed about the news today it just got me to thinking what in the world am I doing so wrong, it feels like a losing battle all the time, no matter how up beat , and positive I stay, this is always bring more problems, and makes a person just want to give up on all of it,
I guess if we did that then this disease would win,
Trust me John I know about pain in fingers, its miserable ,
What helps you with your pain, any thing at all/

Diana.morgan 2008-05-23 14:20:37 -0500 Report

Glycemic-index diet: A helpful tool for diabetes? -
Some people with diabetes use the glycemic index (GI) as a guide in selecting foods. · Cached · Save
Maybe this will help you.

Cindy Riley
Cindy Riley 2008-05-23 16:02:33 -0500 Report

Wow Thank you so much, I will look at this

Your help has been greatly appreciated ,

Thank you so very much


jupton1 2008-05-23 16:47:31 -0500 Report

I use Motrin 800mg it help some..My fingers hurt bad at times..Make sure You eat on this med if You try it..

Hanne Laub
Hanne Laub 2008-06-16 10:07:38 -0500 Report

Sometimes I do feel it is a losing battle. I do everything right, I am slim, well fit, exercise a lot, walk alot, look after home, family, animals, gardening, shopping, etc. And still my clucose level will not go down to under 7. It has been a year since I was diagnosed and have been doing everything as told, including taking my meds, within 1/2 an hour after eating, taking lowering colosterol med at bedtime, etc. etc. and still no good results as glucose level goes. Why, why, why? I am the first in my family with diabetis 2, and there is no family history of this disease, and hopefully there will not be in the future. Why do more and more people get it?? I have always cooked my own (healthy) meals, eaten lots of veggies, not too much fat nor sweets, no coffeee, no smoking, I really want some answers. Having grown up in northern Europe (Scandinavia) our diet is nothing like the american/canadian diet. I need answers and never get them, can someone give me some advise, answers? Thanks so much Hanne.

kdroberts 2008-06-16 11:31:37 -0500 Report

Basically, carbs are the key. If you eat nd then test 1 or 2 hours later and your blood sugar is high, then you need to re-evaluate what you ate. Maybe it was th type of carb or maybe just the amount. Think about what you ate for each meal yesterday, work out the grams of carb, fat and protein for each one and post back, or start a new thread or send me a message.

MaryC - 17518
MaryC - 17518 2008-06-16 05:57:10 -0500 Report

If you seriously think about weight loss surgery talk to my husband. He had it done and wouldn't mind chatting with you if you wanted to know what to expect. Good luck!