This is alarming ...

Mz Tara
By Mz Tara Latest Reply 2013-03-10 01:10:25 -0600
Started 2013-03-06 10:11:37 -0600

I wonder, what exactly is causing this epidemic? If they could figure that out, then maybe we could all be cured … I understand the factors associated with diabetes i.e. genetics, being overweight…etc… but there has got to be something else causing this …

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15 replies

annesmith 2013-03-10 01:10:25 -0600 Report

I believe the epidemic is caused by 2 things: genetic diabetes triggered by corn syrup from pop and processed foods. I noticed when I was a kid and I'd drink pop that my vision would blur right up for hours after drinking it. The next cause of the epidemic I believe is chemicals in the foods we eat, combined with sedentary lifestyles. Then, the corn syrup say in pop, aggravates it all, then lots and lots of people become type 2 diabetic. That's my own theory. ANNE

old biker
old biker 2013-03-06 14:09:57 -0600 Report

Wonder whats causing this epidemic. A big part of the problem is we have turned eating into a social activity Whether it be the .family dinner or the Sunday family get together, birthday parties, graduations, retirements, weddings or just a plain get together with friends. There is hardly a social event that one attends that is not centered around food and lots of it.We even have a holiday that celebrates the over abundance of food ( Thanksgiving )
We are brought up to equate success in life with ones ability to put food on the table, and lots of it. So the term bread winner came about.
There was a time when people use to eat to live, now we live to eat. When we talk about making healthy life style changes this has to be at the top of the list

jayabee52 2013-03-06 14:25:35 -0600 Report

I am not sure of the social activity aspect of mealtime because in my college and grad school days we studied history, both ancient and modern. Eating seems to have been ALWAYS a social occasion from what I remember. In fact eating is much less a social occasion because the nuclear family rarely eats together except for holiday times or celebrations of life changing events.

I think it has more to do with WHAT we eat day to day, or perhaps what is in the foods and drinks we consume daily. Things like HCFS and all the additives in our processed foods.

Mz Tara
Mz Tara 2013-03-06 12:12:29 -0600 Report

It would be nice if they would give out diabetic approved food vouchers for lower income individuals, the way they give out wic approved vouchers for pregnant women and children who are lower income. I probably wouldn't fit into the category of lower income but it would help those who are.

davidhogan 2013-03-06 10:43:57 -0600 Report

I was born in 1960 and we played outside, a coke was a rare occasional treat not what we drank on a regular basis. I was fine until I got out of the Air Force in 1987 and then it started to go down hill. I took my computer expertise from the Air Force and started a database programming business which put me working late at night logging into clients systems when they were not there AND eating some of the worst junk food in the world, most all of it processed food and laden with sugar.

My grandmother had diabetes but my mother and 3 sisters do not so I can sit back and blame it on genetics or be kinder and say the genetic were triggered by my actions but plain and simple I accept my own lack of good judgement on taking care of my health as what did me in.

When I grew up it was unheard of for a teen ager to have type 2 diabetes much less a grammar school kid, now we see this in large amounts. The neighborhood I grew up in had sidewalks and we walked everywhere and now I can hardly find a new development with sidewalks anywhere although I know there are some.

High Fructose Corn Syrup hit the food industries in the late 70's and they started adding it to everything and yet the sugar industry is running campaigns right now saying SUGAR IS SUGAR… well of course it is and we eat more of it today than ever heard of.

I sat at a McDonald's and listened to a person shoving a big mac in and 3, got that …3 orders of fries, say how they were tired of being told diabetes was there fault.

What we eat and how little we get off our tails is my take on "what" is behind this, for me to hide behind this and that, is just to kid myself. It infuriates many to hear this but I choose to do something about it. I monitor my business facebook page most of the day while I continue to do pc work, but I have an alarm set that goes off every hour encouraging me to get my tail out from behind the desk and walk. Just an example of small things I can do, not to mention the bigger things. ;-)

raccoon mana
raccoon mana 2013-03-06 18:22:00 -0600 Report

i cant even eat one order of fries without it affecting my levels. and that knucklehead had 3 orders? plus a big mac? geesh! no wonder he/she has diabetes.

annesmith 2013-03-10 01:06:10 -0600 Report

Good God! I agree! If I ate 3 orders, I'd be in the emergency room before the day was over. That'd send my blood sugars to tither. ANNE

Mz Tara
Mz Tara 2013-03-06 10:56:59 -0600 Report

Good point David. I especially liked the beginning where you said "a coke was a rare occasional treat not what we drank on a regular basis." It is definitely something in the processed foods (in my opinion) but the sour side of that is… even if you cook at home regularly and don't eat out that much… what we purchase from the grocery is mostly processed and anything else is "out of most peoples price range". I've never liked a lot of sweets, and I was thin when I was diagnosed … but I am guilty of eating out or cooking from "box".

jayabee52 2013-03-06 11:20:54 -0600 Report

Plus it is even more telling to note that when I was growning up Sodas were made with Sugar (sucrose) rather than today when it is made with HFCS.

I do question the statement that good BASIC foodstuffs is "out of most people's price range". What really runs up the price on foods is "value (?) added" foods and convience foods IMHO.

Mz Tara
Mz Tara 2013-03-06 11:30:13 -0600 Report

Well to make myself clear (as not to offend anyone here) … I have shopped for organic food and foods from the produce section (I actually started using frozen vege's rather than canned), or homegrown eggs and dairy products, let's not mention homegrown or organic chicken and beef … they are quite a bit more expensive than store brands…even wheat bread (which I have always used, can't stand the smell of white bread) cost more than white … that's what I meant. I don't know about everybody else's financial stuff but I know I'm just a small town girl and when I first came home from the hospital after diagnose my food bill went from $150 (every 2 weeks) to $300… just to stay healthy and keep my bg's in a safe range… I do admit I eat out because sometimes I have to just grab something… I barely have 7 hours in a day that I am not busy … but I shop and bring my lunch with me more so than not …and that is a problem I run into - cost.

Nick1962 2013-03-06 12:34:44 -0600 Report

I do have to agree that eating fresh, whole foods can be more expensive, but there is a benefit.
Shipping of fresh, whole products is costly versus the seemingly non-perishable, pre-packaged/prepared varieties. The pre-pack stuff has a longer shelf life which makes it more cost effective for the producer, thus less expensive. And of course additives stretch that even further. Couple those factors with the fact that with pre-pack food virtually has no waste other than packaging, and it is a very cost effective food choice for many. Even the bi-product and cast-offs like corn cobs, animal bones and fats, wheat stalks, etc. can all get resold and reprocessed in bulk, so given all that, convenience foods really make more effective use of resources. You'd think it would be better for us.
One of the big problems many face today is a lack of kitchen/cooking knowledge and economics. A head of cabbage is fairly cheap, but if you only use it for one meal and end up throwing out the rest, it might as well be gold. Once you do step into the world of home cooking, learning how to effectively use what you purchase will cut down that bill quite a bit. Trouble is, you may be eating things more out of necessity than desire.
The tradeoff for me is that since I did “crossover” and got healthier, my need for (expensive) medications dropped as well as my need for testing supplies. We also get rate reductions on our health insurance for participation in their health programs. I also rarely get sick anymore as well. Sure that $300 grocery bill is a shock, but I’ve realized more than triple that in savings on my annual health care costs.

Mz Tara
Mz Tara 2013-03-06 12:40:36 -0600 Report

You just made a heck-of-a-point Nick. I didn't think of it that way. I wonder if there are rate reductions on my health insurance? I should look into that…

Nick1962 2013-03-06 15:13:01 -0600 Report

Oh, it’s definitely worth a look. Ours has several programs. Some are illness/condition centered like weight loss where a nurse checks in on you every few months to see if you’ve made progress in management. It’s kind of their way of assessing risk. Since I’ve lost a bunch of weight and my physician has placed my diabetes in the “past issues” column, we’ve seen about a 20% drop. Other programs are incentive type where they will send you free gear like a pedometer or other stuff to track activity and exercise. We’ve got watches, belt clips and a few other gizmos we use to download to their program monthly and they track for us. In some instances we get rate reductions, others we gain points for purchasing stuff. My wife is on a program that actually e-mails her weekly to either tell her good job, or give her a subtle kick in the butt.

jayabee52 2013-03-06 11:48:08 -0600 Report

I am sorry that you are feeling the pinch financially Tara. I too am on disabiiity income and that is rather linited. I have lived rather modestly all my life because my finances have never been great, even when I was working. I had to learn to make do and raise a family of 3 growing, hungry boys while making do. I learned how to stretch my food dollar by not opting for "organic" anything. Generally speaking the nutrition is just as available for non-organic as for organic. The only difference with organic is that it was raised in a pesticide free environment so may be more expensive due to pests eating and spoiling a good part of the crop. Washing the regular thoroughly may be an adequate measure to wash away any pesticide, and I would guess that most of us washes organic produce anyway.

Mz Tara
Mz Tara 2013-03-06 11:52:30 -0600 Report

I feel you on that … I don't opt for "organic" anything either … waaay out of my price range… but I have at least learned how to shop for foods that are good for me and not in the high priced section, I also took a diet and nutrition therapy class and learned how to read the ingredient labels on the back of the containers (in addition to the nutritional information) and learned that the least amount of ingredients, is the better choice … that helped A LOT!! (And I've always used turkey, rather than beef)